God, math and science

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Eli1 said:
I honestly don't know.
What i do know and believe is that God has created us. What we are discussing here is the details and the HOW.
Now, you can treat the Bible as an engineering book, but i don't. I treat it as a spiritual and relationship book to our Creator.
A lot of these things are made like this in order for us to make a choice because we will never solve it logically. So i made the choice to believe many years ago after a logical and material approach to the condition i find myself in, and then i had to drop all logic and reason and trust in the supreme Creator because we will never figure out the exact details.
Anytime anyone says the Earth is 6000 years old it means that you're ignoring your eyes and your reason. So, in my eyes you sort of isolate yourself in a camp denying the sight and reason that God gave you.
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When God made the first mountain, he would have formed it with layers of rocks, clay, mud and stones of every size. When he finished let's say Mt Everest, and a scientist of evolutionary fame stood at its base, and you asked him, "How old is this mountain?" Let me answer the question for you, he would say, it's at least 10 billion years old.

When the Lord made the garden for man with all its plants, fruit trees, and animals of every sort, and you looked at it the following day, how old would it appear?

See, this long-term time nonsense makes no sense when you examine it from a Scriptural point of view.
 
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10-22-27 said:
When God made the first mountain, he would have formed it with layers of rocks, clay, mud and stones of every size. When he finished let's say Mt Everest, and a scientist of evolutionary fame stood at its base, and you asked him, "How old is this mountain?" Let me answer the question for you, he would say, it's at least 10 billion years old.

When the Lord made the garden for man with all its plants, fruit trees, and animals of every sort, and you looked at it the following day, how old would it appear?

See, this long-term time nonsense makes no sense when you examine it from a Scriptural point of view.
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Well, if this works for you then that's fine, but it doesn't work for me because as i mentioned earlier, i would have to take my eyes out in order to ignore what i see and measure.
 
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Eli1 said:
I honestly don't know.
What i do know and believe is that God has created us. What we are discussing here is the details and the HOW.
Now, you can treat the Bible as an engineering book, but i don't. I treat it as a spiritual and relationship book to our Creator.
A lot of these things are made like this in order for us to make a choice because we will never solve it logically. So i made the choice to believe many years ago after a logical and material approach to the condition i find myself in, and then i had to drop all logic and reason and trust in the supreme Creator because we will never figure out the exact details.
Anytime anyone says the Earth is 6000 years old it means that you're ignoring your eyes and your reason. So, in my eyes you sort of isolate yourself in a camp denying the sight and reason that God gave you.
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1 Corinthians 1:27-29
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Amen to that! That's exactly how it worked for me.
 
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10-22-27 said:
God has given us the ability and skills to create symbols representing real-life principles called addition, subtraction, division, multiplication, etc., each a part of his creation.
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whoah whoah whoah
got some assumptions going on there m8

  • Does mankind create math or discover it?
 
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Sir Isaac Newton
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he considers his greatest work to be his commentary on Revelation.
it's rubbish, don't bother reafing.. but still. it is fact that Newton was more devoted to his faith than to calculus.

**fun fact**
 
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posthuman said:
he considers his greatest work to be his commentary on Revelation.
it's rubbish, don't bother reafing.. but still. it is fact that Newton was more devoted to his faith than to calculus.

**fun fact**
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I had fun reafing it
 
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10-22-27 said:
Eli, answer this one question, and I may concede to your comments. When the LORD God "formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed in his nostrils the breath of life," and the moment the MAN stood on his feet, how old was Adam?
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i've got an even better question bro

  • Did Adam age before Genesis 3:6b?
 
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posthuman said:
i would like to know why my spellcheck algorithm thought that was a word :unsure:
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Reafing could be reading while leafing through. Shakespeare made up over 5,000 words. You've got a long way to go. If you start writing in iambic pentameter it will go faster.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Reafing could be reading while leafing through. Shakespeare made up over 5,000 words. You've got a long way to go. If you start writing in iambic pentameter it will go faster.
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i bequeath thee mine zooples, good sir.
 
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is anyone surprised it took post 3 pages to show up to this thread?

i answer thee, "fashionably late"

:LOL:
 
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Cameron143 said:
Aging is a physical process. Getting older refers to time.
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agree - good we have definitions. very difficult to proceed without them.

to the original question under these definitions i would say Adam was 0 ((insert unit)) old when he was created, aged at 0yr/yr and time traveled into the future at a rate of 1hr/hr until Genesis 3:7, by which point there was a radical change of parameters.
 
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