Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

[Thunderrr-mental]

Exactly. These people are taking wicked mens' words over God's word, yet claiming they are doing the opposite. God already tells us who the true Jews are. He also tells us who to beware of (if they honestly do believe that Netanyahu is a Jew rather than an Amalekite). Unfortunately, so many Christians are doing just the opposite.

Romans 2:28-29
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Philippians 3:1-3
1 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.
2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

Netanyahu has said God is fighting this war for him and God will help him to win this battle.

I think hes like a lot of people that have a personal God to use at there disposal.

Theres many that say he doesn't even practice the Jewish faith either.

But the circumcision of the heart I wonder is that for the hebrews or is that for the Jews.
And is the translation of Jews in the bible always overlooked, that it should be refering to Hebrew as well. Like the word hebrew has been left out by Jewish translators 😀.

I get told by well studied people Abraham was a Hebrew.

Then I get told Abraham was a language by people who have a warped idea of the rapture.
I don't believe there will be one. I think it's a doctrine set up in 1830 by people trying to force people to come to God. But it does exact opposite and Shows Jesus as this revengeful person.

It seem to me that if the bible says Abraham was a Hebrew, then how can you call Abraham a language.

The who doctrine that Isreal belongs to the Jews is flawed.

And the building of the third temple.

Because Isreal should belong to the hebrews and the Hebrews have had there temple rebuilt 😊

 

[Moses_Young]

Netanyahu has said God is fighting this war for him and God will help him to win this battle.

I think hes like a lot of people that have a personal God to use at there disposal.

Theres many that say he doesn't even practice the Jewish faith either.

Yeah. I don't think he's a Jew at all. Amalekite, I could believe, if they hadn't been wiped out already!

This is what I think of when I think of what Netanyahu has done to all those children, not to mention the men and women.

Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

But the circumcision of the heart I wonder is that for the hebrews or is that for the Jews.

Circumcision of the heart is for the true Jews - all who believe on Christ Jesus.

And is the translation of Jews in the bible always overlooked, that it should be refering to Hebrew as well. Like the word hebrew has been left out by Jewish translators 😀.

I get told by well studied people Abraham was a Hebrew.

Then I get told Abraham was a language by people who have a warped idea of the rapture.
I don't believe there will be one. I think it's a doctrine set up in 1830 by people trying to force people to come to God. But it does exact opposite and Shows Jesus as this revengeful person.

It seem to me that if the bible says Abraham was a Hebrew, then how can you call Abraham a language.

The who doctrine that Isreal belongs to the Jews is flawed.

And the building of the third temple.

Because Isreal should belong to the hebrews and the Hebrews have had there temple rebuilt 😊

I think the Hebrews were descended from Eber, Abraham's grandson, whilst Jews were descended from Judah (his great-grandson)? But since the destruction of the temple (and all the records) in 70AD, how is anyone going to know? The scriptural definition of Jew is better, in my view. Having a warped perspective of worth based on genealogy is no different to putting faith in the flesh, as the Pharisees did, rather than in Christ Jesus.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Yeah. I don't think he's a Jew at all. Amalekite, I could believe, if they hadn't been wiped out already!

This is what I think of when I think of what Netanyahu has done to all those children, not to mention the men and women.

Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Circumcision of the heart is for the true Jews - all who believe on Christ Jesus.


I think the Hebrews were descended from Eber, Abraham's grandson, whilst Jews were descended from Judah (his great-grandson)? But since the destruction of the temple (and all the records) in 70AD, how is anyone going to know? The scriptural definition of Jew is better, in my view. Having a warped perspective of worth based on genealogy is no different to putting faith in the flesh, as the Pharisees did, rather than in Christ Jesus.

I will agree with most of what ye say, I think the amelek where wiped. And if they haven't been then yes they could be the yetanyahu or should that be the yeti as in the abominable creatures 😂

But the bible says Abraham was a Hebrew .

If Abraham was not a Hebrew then what would that make Abraham ,?

I think this is a really important study myself

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Theres a clear distinction between hebrews and Jews Abraham was a Hebrew

Genesis 14:13

King James Version



13 And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram.


So the question has the word Jew in the bible been miss translated many times by the herd of hot headed Jews, as in the goat 😂

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Lol moses come on dude this is important 😂

 

[Moses_Young]

Theres a clear distinction between hebrews and Jews Abraham was a Hebrew

Genesis 14:13

King James Version



13 And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram.


So the question has the word Jew in the bible been miss translated many times by the herd of hot headed Jews, as in the goat 😂

Okay. So Eber was Abraham's ancestor also, and a descendant of Shem. So Abraham was a Hebrew as he was descended from Eber?

Genesis 10:21-29
21 Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.

Genesis 11:11-26
11 And Shem lived after he begat Arphaxad five hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.
12 And Arphaxad lived five and thirty years, and begat Salah:
13 And Arphaxad lived after he begat Salah four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.
14 And Salah lived thirty years, and begat Eber:
15 And Salah lived after he begat Eber four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.
16 And Eber lived four and thirty years, and begat Peleg:
17 And Eber lived after he begat Peleg four hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters.
18 And Peleg lived thirty years, and begat Reu:
19 And Peleg lived after he begat Reu two hundred and nine years, and begat sons and daughters.
20 And Reu lived two and thirty years, and begat Serug:
21 And Reu lived after he begat Serug two hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters.
22 And Serug lived thirty years, and begat Nahor:
23 And Serug lived after he begat Nahor two hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.
24 And Nahor lived nine and twenty years, and begat Terah:
25 And Nahor lived after he begat Terah an hundred and nineteen years, and begat sons and daughters.
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Okay. So Eber was Abraham's ancestor also, and a descendant of Shem. So Abraham was a Hebrew as he was descended from Eber?

Genesis 10:21-29
21 Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.

Genesis 11:11-26
11 And Shem lived after he begat Arphaxad five hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.
12 And Arphaxad lived five and thirty years, and begat Salah:
13 And Arphaxad lived after he begat Salah four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.
14 And Salah lived thirty years, and begat Eber:
15 And Salah lived after he begat Eber four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.
16 And Eber lived four and thirty years, and begat Peleg:
17 And Eber lived after he begat Peleg four hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters.
18 And Peleg lived thirty years, and begat Reu:
19 And Peleg lived after he begat Reu two hundred and nine years, and begat sons and daughters.
20 And Reu lived two and thirty years, and begat Serug:
21 And Reu lived after he begat Serug two hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters.
22 And Serug lived thirty years, and begat Nahor:
23 And Serug lived after he begat Nahor two hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.
24 And Nahor lived nine and twenty years, and begat Terah:
25 And Nahor lived after he begat Terah an hundred and nineteen years, and begat sons and daughters.
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.

I'm confused lol. In your view was Abraham a Hebrew, I'll be happy with a yay or a nay

 

[Moses_Young]

I'm confused lol. In your view was Abraham a Hebrew, I'll be happy with a yay or a nay

I think the verse you quoted from Genesis 14:13 already proves Abraham is a Hebrew, irrespective of what I think. But yes, given that scripture supports this position, I agree with it.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

I think the verse you quoted from Genesis 14:13 already proves Abraham is a Hebrew, irrespective of what I think. But yes, given that scripture supports this position, I agree with it.

so Jerusalem belongs to the hebrews then not the Jews 😂

 

[Moses_Young]

so Jerusalem belongs to the hebrews then not the Jews 😂

This is a question I will leave for God to sort out. His kingdom is not of this world.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

This is a question I will leave for God to sort out. His kingdom is not of this world.

I respect that decision. But part of the war is a battle for who controls ground. In my honest assessment, and yetanyahu shouts this is religious war.

So if anything yetanyahu is clearly wrong, it's not a religious war, and he needs locking up.

So this is why I'm raising this issue because clearly this is to blame for this war

 

[wolfwint]

I respect that decision. But part of the war is a battle for who controls ground. In my honest assessment, and yetanyahu shouts this is religious war.

So if anything yetanyahu is clearly wrong, it's not a religious war, and he needs locking up.

So this is why I'm raising this issue because clearly this is to blame for this war

Of course it is religious. If some says he want eliminate jews, and attack them, even when they dont live in Israel, then this is religious. Special if this is coming from Moslems. A Religion which was foundet from Satan, to fight special against Christians and jews.
I renember in the 90's when it was an Moslem goal to set an mosque opposit to an Christian church in india. Not religious?
It is an goal from Iran and his satelite states to eliminate all jews in Israel. The dont say israelites. They say jews! Of, i forget they don' t accept the state of Israel anyway. They call the land which God has given to his nation Israel palastine.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Of course it is religious. If some says he want eliminate jews, and attack them, even when they dont live in Israel, then this is religious. Special if this is coming from Moslems. A Religion which was foundet from Satan, to fight special against Christians and jews.
I renember in the 90's when it was an Moslem goal to set an mosque opposit to an Christian church in india. Not religious?
It is an goal from Iran and his satelite states to eliminate all jews in Israel. The dont say israelites. They say jews! Of, i forget they don' t accept the state of Israel anyway. They call the land which God has given to his nation Israel palastine.

ok wolfwint. I take it you live in Germany and you speak german.



And in Germany your made to believe the war is over religion, so you protect the Jews.

Only this is how all of NATO countries are made to believe, that the war is over religion, it's how Christians are made to become Zionists.

you don't realise what is going on, politics is using religion to win your vote friend.

honestly that's all it is friend.




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[wolfwint]

ok wolfwint. I take it you live in Germany and you speak german.



And in Germany your made to believe the war is over religion, so you protect the Jews.

Only this is how all of NATO countries are made to believe, that the war is over religion, it's how Christians are made to become Zionists.

you don't realise what is going on, politics is using religion to win your vote friend.

honestly that's all it is friend.




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I am german, but not out of the world.
You are from the UK which has enough religious wars between Roman catholics and protestants. If i am not wrong.
The Isalm is what Kind of religion? God made, man made or devil made?
The purpose is what? Destroying Gods people (Christians and Jews), worlds rulingship. If I am not wrong.
If you are saying the war in Israel is not religious motivatet. Then what. Political?
7th october shows that Hamas/islam makes no different between Jewish liberal people, jewish people who support palastine people in Gaza, radikal orthodox jewish people.

Again to my questions:
So what is your different between hebrews and jews?
What 12 tribe members are mentioned in the book of Revelation, if according your meaning only the tribe judah is left?

To tell me that I am not able to understand what realy is going on is no answer to my question.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

I am german, but not out of the world.
You are from the UK which has enough religious wars between Roman catholics and protestants. If i am not wrong.
The Isalm is what Kind of religion? God made, man made or devil made?
The purpose is what? Destroying Gods people (Christians and Jews), worlds rulingship. If I am not wrong.
If you are saying the war in Israel is not religious motivatet. Then what. Political?
7th october shows that Hamas/islam makes no different between Jewish liberal people, jewish people who support palastine people in Gaza, radikal orthodox jewish people.

Again to my questions:
So what is your different between hebrews and jews?
What 12 tribe members are mentioned in the book of Revelation, if according your meaning only the tribe judah is left?

To tell me that I am not able to understand what realy is going on is no answer to my question.

islamic faith accepts Jesus a lot more than Judaism Faith does friend.

And I can prove it.

But honestly you should not hold Judaism faith higher than islamic faith, that would be a grave mistake, just saying.

 

[wolfwint]

islamic faith accepts Jesus a lot more than Judaism Faith does friend.

And I can prove it.

But honestly you should not hold Judaism faith higher than islamic faith, that would be a grave mistake, just saying.

No answer to my questions. You cant give or you dont will?

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

No answer to my questions. You cant give or you dont will?

what question ? you always have question, I am not a quiz show,

 

[wolfwint]

what question ? you always have question, I am not a quiz show,

Thanks for your ignoring, very gentlemen like.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

I am german, but not out of the world.
You are from the UK which has enough religious wars between Roman catholics and protestants. If i am not wrong.
The Isalm is what Kind of religion? God made, man made or devil made?
The purpose is what? Destroying Gods people (Christians and Jews), worlds rulingship. If I am not wrong.
If you are saying the war in Israel is not religious motivatet. Then what. Political?
7th october shows that Hamas/islam makes no different between Jewish liberal people, jewish people who support palastine people in Gaza, radikal orthodox jewish people.

Again to my questions:
So what is your different between hebrews and jews?
What 12 tribe members are mentioned in the book of Revelation, if according your meaning only the tribe judah is left?

To tell me that I am not able to understand what realy is going on is no answer to my question.

what is the difference between a Hebrew and a Jew.


1 Abraham was born a Hebrew.

2 Hebrews Worship Jesus.

3 not all hebrews are Jews

https://www.thechurchnews.com/1990/...s (descendants of,are not the only Israelites.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Thanks for your ignoring, very gentlemen like.

the house of Isreal was divided into two kingdoms.


https://www.thechurchnews.com/1994/7/16/23256798/israel-divided-into-two-kingdoms