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what Bible do you read?
John 3: 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
John 3: 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
obviously your now trying to justify your walk by
the deeds of evil which is wrong, and at the same time criticizing my walk by the seeds of evil,
And why ? for what purpose do you do this. because you've been corrected ?
Or because you can't accept something.
people are all dead because they are born with a blood that needs atonement.
until there blood is atoned there all capable of evil, even you.
Theres many reasons why people hide from the light. But evil is a sign something is going on with the forces of evil, the spirits of the antichrists that John spoke about, who says many are in the world.
Evil flees Fom the light, and has done through out scripture when Jesus has gone near something evil.
So there for the evil that flees from the light are antiChrists spirits not of this world that John speaks about.
People hide from the light because they don't like correction not because they hate it.
Evil hates the light, so there is a difference
the deeds of evil which is wrong, and at the same time criticizing my walk by the seeds of evil,
And why ? for what purpose do you do this. because you've been corrected ?
Or because you can't accept something.
people are all dead because they are born with a blood that needs atonement.
until there blood is atoned there all capable of evil, even you.
Theres many reasons why people hide from the light. But evil is a sign something is going on with the forces of evil, the spirits of the antichrists that John spoke about, who says many are in the world.
Evil flees Fom the light, and has done through out scripture when Jesus has gone near something evil.
So there for the evil that flees from the light are antiChrists spirits not of this world that John speaks about.
People hide from the light because they don't like correction not because they hate it.
Evil hates the light, so there is a difference
SMH
I proved you in error. and this is how you respond
dude, your pride is great. Try to humble yourself for once..
I did not try to justify my walk. I attempted, and SUCCEEDED I MAY ADD, to prove to you that what you said (people in the dark do not come to the light because they have a demon)
and that I was write in saying they do not come to the light because they do not want to be exposed (they love their sin)
Anyway,. I am about to put you on ignore.. You have no desire to have an actual conversation with anyone.. and attack people who prove you wrong..
I proved you in error. and this is how you respond
dude, your pride is great. Try to humble yourself for once..
I did not try to justify my walk. I attempted, and SUCCEEDED I MAY ADD, to prove to you that what you said (people in the dark do not come to the light because they have a demon)
and that I was write in saying they do not come to the light because they do not want to be exposed (they love their sin)
Anyway,. I am about to put you on ignore.. You have no desire to have an actual conversation with anyone.. and attack people who prove you wrong..
I'm not the one who called water baptism blasphemy, you did, remember.
When it comes to pride I know every single way pride acts, and I know through speaking to Jesus everyday, how the forces of evil do there best to revoke pride. Or how the forces of evil do there best to cause division.
The easiest thing do to do is accuse someone, the wisest thing to do is to hold back, and try to reason before accusing.
Obviously your not doing this right now.
Because now your acting out of pride with your interpretation of scripture, and how you feal grace works.
Quite clearly many brothers, have corrected you.
And all you've done is resort to accusing them, and me
Now your of on another tantrum trying to prove there must be something wrong with us, who don't agree with you.
Well it won't belong before you'll be saying I have to question if your saved.
No doubt you've got your little notebook of self opinionated answers, to no doubt, a collection of the artful Dodgers responses from talking to dead people here.
When it comes to pride I know every single way pride acts, and I know through speaking to Jesus everyday, how the forces of evil do there best to revoke pride. Or how the forces of evil do there best to cause division.
The easiest thing do to do is accuse someone, the wisest thing to do is to hold back, and try to reason before accusing.
Obviously your not doing this right now.
Because now your acting out of pride with your interpretation of scripture, and how you feal grace works.
Quite clearly many brothers, have corrected you.
And all you've done is resort to accusing them, and me
Now your of on another tantrum trying to prove there must be something wrong with us, who don't agree with you.
Well it won't belong before you'll be saying I have to question if your saved.
No doubt you've got your little notebook of self opinionated answers, to no doubt, a collection of the artful Dodgers responses from talking to dead people here.
Did Jesus die on the cross?
Was he raised from the dead?
Did he die because of your sin?
Did he die because there was no other way to save you from your own condemnation?
Did God show to you you are a sinner and worthy of Condemnation?
Did God show you that no amount of work you do will ever save yourself. that apart from his death burial and resurrection. You are doomed?
Did God bring you to your knees in total distress once you realize your situation with God..
Did God spend weeks, maybe months or years. explaining this to you through his word. His people. or His creation?
Did the HS help you to understand all these things in your dead state so you could make an honest open decision to say Yes God, I confess, and cry out to Jesus, Or No God, I will do it on my own.
This is what happened to me and so many other people I know I have lost count.
This is the work of God in my life and their life that brought us to the fork in the road where we were forced to make a decision to trust God. or continue to reject him.
Why do you think this is impossible for this to happen. and where have I ever stated faith comes from Human origin?
I can not produce faith in myself to trust other people. they must prove themselves trustworthy to me..
Was he raised from the dead?
Did he die because of your sin?
Did he die because there was no other way to save you from your own condemnation?
Did God show to you you are a sinner and worthy of Condemnation?
Did God show you that no amount of work you do will ever save yourself. that apart from his death burial and resurrection. You are doomed?
Did God bring you to your knees in total distress once you realize your situation with God..
Did God spend weeks, maybe months or years. explaining this to you through his word. His people. or His creation?
Did the HS help you to understand all these things in your dead state so you could make an honest open decision to say Yes God, I confess, and cry out to Jesus, Or No God, I will do it on my own.
This is what happened to me and so many other people I know I have lost count.
This is the work of God in my life and their life that brought us to the fork in the road where we were forced to make a decision to trust God. or continue to reject him.
Why do you think this is impossible for this to happen. and where have I ever stated faith comes from Human origin?
I can not produce faith in myself to trust other people. they must prove themselves trustworthy to me..
No, I called the belief we must be baptized in water to be saved blasphemy.
so if your going to attack someone, you better get what they said correct..
Yet you can;t see your own pride..
We;; you just accused me of somethign that was wrong. Practice what you preach much??
I did not accuse you of anything, I PROVED YOU WERE IN ERROR.
Nor are you. see your first sentence
Lol. Read your post. who is throwing a tantrum because someone proved them in error?
You are actually making me laugh now. thank you, I needed a good laugh
so if your going to attack someone, you better get what they said correct..
Yet you can;t see your own pride..
We;; you just accused me of somethign that was wrong. Practice what you preach much??
I did not accuse you of anything, I PROVED YOU WERE IN ERROR.
Nor are you. see your first sentence
Lol. Read your post. who is throwing a tantrum because someone proved them in error?
You are actually making me laugh now. thank you, I needed a good laugh
Nope
I was baptised in water a year after I was baptized by the HS.
God commanded us to go and make disciples and baptize those new disciples
God never said be baptized in water or you will not be saved, That is replacing the work of the HS in spirit baptism with the work of Man and is called blasphemy.
If your going to keep accusing me of a lie. I will report you! I am sick of people attacking others with things that are not true..
I was baptised in water a year after I was baptized by the HS.
God commanded us to go and make disciples and baptize those new disciples
God never said be baptized in water or you will not be saved, That is replacing the work of the HS in spirit baptism with the work of Man and is called blasphemy.
If your going to keep accusing me of a lie. I will report you! I am sick of people attacking others with things that are not true..
I had a similar experience as you, and I believe elements of all these things are common to salvation. But I don't agree that you were still spiritually dead. The very fact that you were noticing these things and responding to them is the evidence that you were alive spiritually. Otherwise, you would not have responded.
The point about faith I was making was concerning the distinction between a natural faith or ability to believe and a supernatural faith that is produced in us when we are saved. One is exercised by us and made possible by virtue of our natural birth. The other is produced in us and enabled by spiritual birth.
The point about faith I was making was concerning the distinction between a natural faith or ability to believe and a supernatural faith that is produced in us when we are saved. One is exercised by us and made possible by virtue of our natural birth. The other is produced in us and enabled by spiritual birth.
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