Why Some Arminians and Calvinists Need to Calm Down
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Ok then, you acknowledge that there is a spirit within us, and this is by which we must receive the words taught by the Spirit "expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words (I Cor 2:13). And if you can't accept that, it is because you are listening with natural ears.
Depends on what "spirit" you are referring to.
In the New Testament, Romans 8:9 states, "You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him". This verse clearly states that if someone does not have the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit, then that person is not saved.
Correct?
J.
I've never even implied that one needs to receive the Holy Spirit in order to be saved.
So if I read this-one can be saved-WITHOUT the necessity of the indwelling Holy Spirit. A new one to me, but you don't "work" with the Scriptures-hence-assumptions. The Jacobus Arminius worldview-Leigton Flowers.
2Ti 2:14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
Shalom
J.
What is your biblical authority for equating coming with believing? Or whatever esoteric meaning you want to apply to it? Why isn't coming in the bible simply the normal meaning of approaching the present location of?
What's the point of it? After reading your eisegesis on Ephesians I am really not interested in wasting my time with sophomoric sophistry and "Christians" not working with the Scriptures.
Have a good day.
J.
I'm sure you could type a lot of words that circle around any biblical topic and claim they back up your assertions. I would be more interested in seeing from you a series of short relevant answers to some of my short probing questions. But so far, that seems unikely to eventuate.
Define what you mean by good. Matt. 12:35 A good man out f the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things.
Luke 23:50 And behold there was a man named Joseph, a councillor; and he was a good man and a just one.
Acts 11:24 [Barnabas] was a good man, full of the Holy Spirit and of faith.
Rom. 5:7 though perhaps for a good man one will dare even to die.
I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
I may not be perfect, but parts of me are excellent.
I thought you were all in favour of iron sharpens iron. But that was apparently a ruse as well.
The problem of interpretive plurality, of course, is not restricted to evangelical
groups.
24 Nor is it the only problem that contemporary Christian communities face regarding
the use and interpretation of Scripture. Stephen Prothero’s, Religious Literacy: What Every
American Needs to Know—And Doesn’t, draws attention to the widespread phenomenon of
biblical illiteracy characteristic of American Christianity.
25 Despite the fact that significant
percentages of Americans—whether evangelical, mainline Protestant, Catholic, or other—
affirm the authority and centrality of Scripture for their faith, knowledge of its contents is
abysmally low.26
When contemporary readers, whether scholars, laypeople, exegetes, or theologians,
do engage Scripture, they are frequently perplexed by the “strange new world” which they
encounter depicted within it.
27 The historical, moral, and even religious distance that has
opened up between the worlds of meaning mediated by the texts of Scripture—to the extent
that we can understand them and make correct judgments about them
I use the inductive method of Biblical interpretation. Not inductive reasoning applied to the Bible, as Calvinists do.
What secondary sources are you using IN doing inductive studies?
I am more of an exegetical, Hermeneutical examiner of Scriptures-pun noted on the "method" and "reasoning"-let's leave Calvin aside for a moment and answer my question-what extra biblical sources/resources are you using and are you familiar with the LXX and and Greek and Hebrew Grammars/Syntax? Do you have at least a basic understanding re the Grammars as it is in the Koine Greek and Hebrew?
How do you prep a sermon?
Thanks
J.
What on earth does this have to do with the OP or the thread title? You refuse to engage with questions related to the OP and thread title, and you divert conversations down all kinds of rabbit trails that are irrelevant to the OP and thread title. That ignore button is looking pretty attractive. There does not seem to be any chance of a good faith dialogue with you.
