Why Some Arminians and Calvinists Need to Calm Down

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Eli1

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A ministry like David Wilkerson and I was involved in a outreach ministry called The Ark in Durban- South Africa for twenty years-best years of my life. Just woke up @Eli1.
Johann
That's great to hear brother.
I don't want to ask any further questions in this topic because your heart seems in the right place despite minor disagreements we might have with each-other in theology.
 

selahsays

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How do you study the Scriptures?
I don’t think I’m very good at iron sharpening. Folks just get mad at me. ;):rolleyes::censored: When I study, I read His words. When I get to something, I don’t understand, I ask my Father (who art in heaven). ….and sure enough, in the not-too-distant future, He answers me by through the Scriptures— His Word.
 

CS1

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Arminians and Calvinists
are the Left and right of churches LOL
 

Johann

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I don’t think I’m very good at iron sharpening. Folks just get mad at me. ;):rolleyes::censored: When I study, I read His words. When I get to something, I don’t understand, I ask my Father (who art in heaven). ….and sure enough, in the not-too-distant future, He answers me by through the Scriptures— His Word.
Exactly what I wanted to hear.
I stand up for what I believe is truth-and I am struggling.
Shalom
Johann
 

Nehemiah6

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I stand up for what I believe is truth-and I am struggling.
Why are you "struggling" when the Gospel truths were already presented to you some time back? It is time to give up the doctrines of men, and you won't be "struggling" any more. I already showed you how Calvin faked the truth after even recognizing it. And all Calvinists do the same. There is only one true Gospel, and it is definitely NOT according to TULIP.
 
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Why are you "struggling" when the Gospel truths were already presented to you some time back? It is time to give up the doctrines of men, and you won't be "struggling" any more. I already showed you how Calvin faked the truth after even recognizing it. And all Calvinists do the same. There is only one true Gospel, and it is definitely NOT according to TULIP.
explain to me how Calvinism support the idea that God allows a person to sin, when calvinism says God wills you to make the right choice.
 

Nehemiah6

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explain to me how Calvinism support the idea that God allows a person to sin
That is a misrepresentation. Calvinism also requires that Christians stop sinning. It is their gospel which is incorrect.
 

selahsays

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Why are you "struggling" when the Gospel truths were already presented to you some time back? It is time to give up the doctrines of men, and you won't be "struggling" any more. I already showed you how Calvin faked the truth after even recognizing it. And all Calvinists do the same. There is only one true Gospel, and it is definitely NOT according to TULIP.
….but just because a Christian believes in Election (which is a Bible truth) does not make him a Calvinist.
 

Johann

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Why are you "struggling" when the Gospel truths were already presented to you some time back? It is time to give up the doctrines of men, and you won't be "struggling" any more. I already showed you how Calvin faked the truth after even recognizing it. And all Calvinists do the same. There is only one true Gospel, and it is definitely NOT according to TULIP.
Please man-next.
 

Johann

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Arminians and Calvinists
are the Left and right of churches LOL
And Calvinists might be the "right" Church since there is consistency in doctrine there and not with "flowery" Leighton Flowers.
 

selahsays

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taken from WikipediA — The theology of Calvinism has been immortalized in the acronym TULIP, which states the five essential doctrines of total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, and perseverance of the saints. These were detailed after Calvin's death in the Second Synod of Dort in 1618–1619 against the opposing Five Articles of Remonstrance which followed the theology of Jacobus Arminius. Modern Reformed theology continues to assert these five points of Calvinism,[6] as a simple summary of the soteriologicaldoctrines which Calvin espoused and credited to Augustine.

Me? I certainly do not believe in unconditional election or limited atonement. This is not biblical.
 

Johann

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taken from WikipediA — The theology of Calvinism has been immortalized in the acronym TULIP, which states the five essential doctrines of total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, and perseverance of the saints. These were detailed after Calvin's death in the Second Synod of Dort in 1618–1619 against the opposing Five Articles of Remonstrance which followed the theology of Jacobus Arminius. Modern Reformed theology continues to assert these five points of Calvinism,[6] as a simple summary of the soteriologicaldoctrines which Calvin espoused and credited to Augustine.

Me? I certainly do not believe in unconditional election or limited atonement. This is not biblical.
You do realize in a debate you will lose by citing Wiki? Tell me-would you say easy-believism is true?
If so-use Scripture references to make your case-I am not here to "attack" you-just want to see if we can find common ground-"no man's land" since the majority of members are not working WITH Scriptures.
J.
 

selahsays

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You do realize in a debate you will lose by citing Wiki? Tell me-would you say easy-believism is true?
If so-use Scripture references to make your case-I am not here to "attack" you-just want to see if we can find common ground-"no man's land" since the majority of members are not working WITH Scriptures.
J.
…but what does man teach about TULIP (Calvinism), which is a false doctrine (in my opinion)? Be back in a few hours. …
 

selahsays

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What’s easy-believism?
 
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And Calvinists might be the "right" Church since there is consistency in doctrine there and not with "flowery" Leighton Flowers.
lol possibly 😂. Or it could be the Calvary of the Rockies
 
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taken from WikipediA — The theology of Calvinism has been immortalized in the acronym TULIP, which states the five essential doctrines of total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, and perseverance of the saints. These were detailed after Calvin's death in the Second Synod of Dort in 1618–1619 against the opposing Five Articles of Remonstrance which followed the theology of Jacobus Arminius. Modern Reformed theology continues to assert these five points of Calvinism,[6] as a simple summary of the soteriologicaldoctrines which Calvin espoused and credited to Augustine.

Me? I certainly do not believe in unconditional election or limited atonement. This is not biblical.
well wiki is never a good a thing lol, anyone can edit wiki.

It's most defiantly a wikid wiki.

I'm certain this John Calvin fella, has only endorsed a doctrine (tulip or whatever) that was already existed within the church.

It's more likely john Calvin opened a church called the Calvin church,

and then the word Calvinist was born 😋