Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

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rogerg

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Show me the last question I asked?
In post #1451 for example, although I didn't look too thoroughly so I could have missed some. Those that were not direct questions were spawned from questions.

"FollowerofShiloh said:
Did God die for only some of your sins or all of them?
When He died for the kosmos He died for all those sins listed."
 

brightfame52

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I believe there is only one spiritual sin of consequence: trusting in one's works for salvation and not trusting in Christ as Saviour.
Which I believe Cameron143 also made mention of in a prior post.
Yet I believe if you an elect God saves us from trusting in ourselves, our works. Remember Paul, he trusted all that mess Phil 3
 

FollowerofShiloh

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In post #1451 for example, although I didn't look too thoroughly so I could have missed some. Those that were not direct questions were spawned from questions.

"FollowerofShiloh said:
Did God die for only some of your sins or all of them?
When He died for the kosmos He died for all those sins listed."
John 3:16

16 Οὕτως
16 Thus



γὰρ
for



ἠγάπησεν
loved




-



Θεὸς
God



τὸν
the



κόσμον
world-universe


^
Same word John uses in 1 John 2:2

κοσμου
of world-universe
 

rogerg

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John 3:16

16 Οὕτως
16 Thus



γὰρ
for



ἠγάπησεν
loved




-



Θεὸς
God



τὸν
the



κόσμον
world-universe


^
Same word John uses in 1 John 2:2

κοσμου
of world-universe
Wait - you asked me to show you the last question that YOU ASKED ME, which is what my reply was to you was about.
So, your post above makes no sense from what I can see.
 

rogerg

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Yet I believe if you an elect God saves us from trusting in ourselves, our works. Remember Paul, he trusted all that mess Phil 3
Yup, that's what I meant too - that when we become saved, through God, we no longer place our trust in our works for salvation, but
completely in Christ as Saviour, or, did I misunderstand your point?
 

FollowerofShiloh

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Wait - you asked me to show you the last question that YOU ASKED ME, which is what my reply was to you was about.
So, your post above makes no sense from what I can see.
I also keep saying if you know the Greek you might have a clue. Since it's obvious you do not, I am just using the Greek from now on because a Student of God who tries to be a teacher and does not know the original language is no student of God.
 

rogerg

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I also keep saying if you know the Greek you might have a clue. Since it's obvious you do not, I am just using the Greek from now on because a Student of God who tries to be a teacher and does not know the original language is no student of God.
Whatever
 

Sipsey

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I also keep saying if you know the Greek you might have a clue. Since it's obvious you do not, I am just using the Greek from now on because a Student of God who tries to be a teacher and does not know the original language is no student of God.
Is there a Scripture that says one must know multiple languages to know God?
 

rogerg

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I also keep saying if you know the Greek you might have a clue. Since it's obvious you do not, I am just using the Greek from now on because a Student of God who tries to be a teacher and does not know the original language is no student of God.
Funny how you know Greek so well;), yet you've gotten so much wrong. It doesn't seem to have helped you much, has it?
 

FollowerofShiloh

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If you try to teach someone shouldn't know the origin and true meaning of the words you are discussing?
The Greek has 2 words for earth = earth is Γη= (ge) or Γαία= (Gaia)
But one can be used for goddess
Shouldn't you know how both are used before talking about earth?

We're discussing the "word of God" here. We should know what the original Language means before saying anything about it if we're here telling people they're wrong.
 

rogerg

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If you try to teach someone shouldn't know the origin of the words you are discussing?
That is what the translators provided so we wouldn't have to know it. Do you think your understanding of Greek exceeds theirs, especially since their translations have been available and analyzed for hundreds of years? Plus, besides you continually saying
you are such a great expert in Greek, I don't see it reflected at all in your understanding of the Bible.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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That is what the translators provided so we wouldn't have to know it. Do you think your understanding of Greek exceeds theirs, especially since their translations have been available and analyzed for hundreds of years? Plus, besides you continually saying
you are such a great expert in Greek, I don't see it reflected at all in your understanding of the Bible.
Translators are not correct when the typical Greek word has 2 or more words/vice versa for every English word. That's the same as using Scholars. But at least a Scholar KNOWS THE CORRECT GREEK WORD!

Kosmos
κοσμου
of world-universe

^
1 Greek word 2 English meanings and why they insert UNIVERSE to make the meaning clear.
 

rogerg

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Translators are not correct when the typical Greek word has 2 or more words for every English word. That's the same as using Scholars. But at least a Scholar KNOWS THE CORRECT GREEK WORD!
Oh, and you think that know better they do? No, don't believe so - you suffer from delusions of grandeur.
 

rogerg

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My Grandfather taught in Bible Universities. I was a student of his and my Dad.
So? That doesn't mean the Holy Spirit has opened your eyes, which I don't think that He has.
And if He hasn't then you will never be able to come to correct biblical understanding, which, you haven't.