What if you die before water baptism?
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@Everlasting-Grace said the oppisite to what you are stating...He has made it clear that he was Baptized by the Holy Spirit , and then after he got Baptized in water according to Gods Will...He did as he was commanded...If you go back and read @Everlasting-Grace post , you will see it very clearly what he wrote Amen...
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It's your sin that has you on the high way to hell.
If you do not repent you will in fact perish.
And he wants to argue that it's not actually God's will to get water baptized even though God says in His Word it is His will and He actually commands us to be baptized for remission of sins.
So this guy is all over the map and is a very confused person.
Hope that gets better for him and He starts simply accepting all of what God says in His Word
If you do not repent you will in fact perish.
And he wants to argue that it's not actually God's will to get water baptized even though God says in His Word it is His will and He actually commands us to be baptized for remission of sins.
So this guy is all over the map and is a very confused person.
Hope that gets better for him and He starts simply accepting all of what God says in His Word
Walk on by you mean.
Well you've just acknowledged that when a person is baptised they have the Holy spirit already, ( finally)
So in what sense do they have the Holy Spirit, is it a seed in there heart.
Is it you have complete salvation already,
So what is the reason for being baptised with the holy spirit.
Why would there be a reason for the holy spirit to allow you to be baptised.
Why would the Holy Spirit baptise you.
Why would you be commanded to be baptised with when you already have the Holy Spirit in you.
Is it because what you actually have is the word in your heart, ( a seed) ( the light).
The light is also spirit.
The word is also spirit.
Both the light and the word are Holy.
Which makes the seed Holy.
Such seeds can be taken away.
So are you fully saved before your baptised.
Well you've just acknowledged that when a person is baptised they have the Holy spirit already, ( finally)
So in what sense do they have the Holy Spirit, is it a seed in there heart.
Is it you have complete salvation already,
So what is the reason for being baptised with the holy spirit.
Why would there be a reason for the holy spirit to allow you to be baptised.
Why would the Holy Spirit baptise you.
Why would you be commanded to be baptised with when you already have the Holy Spirit in you.
Is it because what you actually have is the word in your heart, ( a seed) ( the light).
The light is also spirit.
The word is also spirit.
Both the light and the word are Holy.
Which makes the seed Holy.
Such seeds can be taken away.
So are you fully saved before your baptised.
The point is people are sayin the Holy spirit baptises them into Christ before the act of water baptism.
The logic of this, is still saying the Holy spirit is baptising you.
But such people are not willing to accept that what they have at that stage is just a part of the Holy spirit before the Holy spirit baptises them into Christ.
When you ask them, is it not just same as the Holy spirit baptizing you into Christ through water baptism.
For some reason which is beyond all logic, they don't see they have the same part of the Holy spirit in them.
Either way before there baptised into Christ what they have is a small part of the Holy spirit keeping them saved at that point.
In scripture we see being baptised into Christ with water.
The logic of this, is still saying the Holy spirit is baptising you.
But such people are not willing to accept that what they have at that stage is just a part of the Holy spirit before the Holy spirit baptises them into Christ.
When you ask them, is it not just same as the Holy spirit baptizing you into Christ through water baptism.
For some reason which is beyond all logic, they don't see they have the same part of the Holy spirit in them.
Either way before there baptised into Christ what they have is a small part of the Holy spirit keeping them saved at that point.
In scripture we see being baptised into Christ with water.
every where you go in scripture, 28 verses out of 30, makes clear reference to being baptised in water.
One veres says you will be baptised with the holy spirit.
Notice the words with and notice the word baptised this is in acts 1
In acts 10 they had the holy spirit and then they where told be baptised in water, with the Holy spirit.
So why do you need to express your faith, if you already have the Holy spirit in full as you put it.
One veres says you will be baptised with the holy spirit.
Notice the words with and notice the word baptised this is in acts 1
In acts 10 they had the holy spirit and then they where told be baptised in water, with the Holy spirit.
So why do you need to express your faith, if you already have the Holy spirit in full as you put it.
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You need to stop, are saying he is not saved because he was not water baptized first?
You were shown in Acts where Cornelius House was filled with the Holy Spirit before they were water baptized. You are a legalistic Pharisees. And unbiblical. Stop causing doubt of those who are in faith with the Lord Jesus Christ.
You were shown in Acts where Cornelius House was filled with the Holy Spirit before they were water baptized. You are a legalistic Pharisees. And unbiblical. Stop causing doubt of those who are in faith with the Lord Jesus Christ.
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