Not By Works

[MarcoftheTruth]

This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent. John 6:29

Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. John 14:12

The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. John 14:10

 

[crossnote]

A true Jew
1. faith in Yeshua
2. from the natural lineage of Abraham--->Isaac--->Jacob.
Agree?

 

[VCO]

This is an artist drawing that depicts the TEMPLE at the time, about 10 years after He had built it. Words and covered bridges on the east side, and three GATES on the north side are mine

 

[crossnote]

I bet you don't even thow what qualifies a person to be called a Jew, do you.

Besides this your not listening to a word I say, and are now just posting random scripture, your obviously now just intent on just arguing.

There is no way I can post scripture to people who start to argue like you do, as they just start to reject scripture over and over again.

A true Jew? See post#153,382 above. I agree with him 😀.

 

[VCO]

A true Jew? See post#153,382 above. I agree with him 😀.

And I agree with him, and HIM.

 

[crossnote]

And I agree with him, and HIM.

shh!, don't blow my cover (him)

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

A true Jew
1. faith in Yeshua
2. from the natural lineage of Abraham--->Isaac--->Jacob.
Agree?

No Jews only came into existence from judha the son of Jacob.

Basically anyone born in the area of judha was also called a Jew even tho they where descendants of Judha.

They where called Jews ,Jude's judeans,

When the Romans got there the only prominent place left was where the tribe of Judah had settled, and the Romans called everyone Jews.

The true patriarchs of the faith are the hebrews. Not the Jews

 

[crossnote]

No Jews only came into existence from judha the son of Jacob.

Basically anyone born in the area of judha was also called a Jew even tho they where descendants of Judha.

They where called Jews ,Jude's judeans,

When the Romans got there the only prominent place left was where the tribe of Judah had settled, and the Romans called everyone Jews.

The true patriarchs of the faith are the hebrews. Not the Jews

You are playing word games. In Nazi Germany a so called 'Hebrew' was considered a Jew. 6 million would testify of this (if they could)
The question isn't who or what were the Patriarch's of the faith, but 'who are the 'true Jews'?' We know the natural lineage of Abraham-Isaac-Jacob are Hebrew (but many 'Hebrews' were apostate), so a true Jew was not only of the natural lineage of Abraham, but also had the faith of Abraham.


Romans 2:28-29 NKJV
For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; [29] but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

(in context Paul has been referring to the Jews)

Instead of negating whatever I have said, why don't you give your explanation of what you believe a true Jew is?

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

You are playing word games. In Nazi Germany a so called 'Hebrew' was considered a Jew. 6 million would testify of this (if they could)
The question isn't who or what were the Patriarch's of the faith, but 'who are the 'true Jews'?' We know the natural lineage of Abraham-Isaac-Jacob are Hebrew (but many 'Hebrews' were apostate), so a true Jew was not only of the natural lineage of Abraham, but also had the faith of Abraham.


Romans 2:28-29 NKJV
For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; [29] but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

(in context Paul has been referring to the Jews)

Instead of negating whatever I have said, why don't you give your explanation of what you believe a true Jew is?

I ain't playing no word games, scripture confirms Abraham was a Hebrew, from Ur, do you know where that is 🤔

 

[crossnote]

I ain't playing no word games, scripture confirms Abraham was a Hebrew, from Ur, do you know where that is 🤔

Ur is in Iraq.
Instead of negating whatever I have said, why don't you give your explanation of what you believe a true Jew is?

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Ur is in Iraq.
Instead of negating whatever I have said, why don't you give your explanation of what you believe a true Jew is?

Well sir I can tell you a Jew is not a hebrew 😊

Secondly sir I can also tell a true Welshman would not say Wales is in England 😊

So would you want to be a Welshman because of that

 

[VCO]

Now let me explain that drawing above that I posted. I was working one that yesterday, and it has nothing to with Works Righteousness. I had that drawing in my file for a very long time, and I have no idea where it came from. It appears to be from an 1860 ?, books that I used to collect, before there were CD's with collections of those kind of drawing in them. I am 75 years old and was looking for something to do. So I thought with a little bit of editing the would make a fine edition to "Not By Works" Thread. The Eastern Cloister got it beginnings it the writings of Josephus, notice this is were I got that Ophel statement:

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Now let me explain that drawing above that I posted. I was working one that yesterday, and it has nothing to with Works Righteousness. I had that drawing in my file for a very long time, and I have no idea where it came from. It appears to be from an 1860 ?, books that I used to collect, before there were CD's with collections of those kind of drawing in them. I am 75 years old and was looking for something to do. So I thought with a little bit of editing the would make a fine edition to "Not By Works" Thread. The Eastern Cloister got it beginnings it the writings of Josephus, notice this is were I got that Ophel statement:

The rebuilding of a third temple is blasphemy, it's already been Built. Jesus is the temple.

 

[crossnote]

Well sir I can tell you a Jew is not a hebrew 😊

Secondly sir I can also tell a true Welshman would not say Wales is in England 😊

So would you want to be a Welshman because of that

Thanks for your non-answer. Good-bye.

 

[crossnote]

The rebuilding of a third temple is blasphemy, it's already been Built. Jesus is the temple.

Already been built? Could you then, please explain what is going on in Ezekiel chapters 40-48?

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Thanks for your non-answer. Good-bye.

Already been built? Could you then, please explain what is going on in Ezekiel chapters 40-48?

I gave you my suggestion, 😊

 

[VCO]

Already been built? Could you then, please explain what is going on in Ezekiel chapters 40-48?

First of all I have to explain 5:24, and that has always been the standard. For the Christians, and for the Jews, it has always been that way for the Old Testament the were expected to believe the Christ whom they knew the GOD would sent, and for the Christians, they would believe the Christ coming forth from the Father.

Now for the Explanation of Ezekiel 40 - 48. It is Literal, and the Temple Must be moved to some other place by Christ Himself. It is the 4th Temple, and it will have Temple Priests and at least so of us are slated to become Priests.

Revelation 20:4 (NASB)
4 Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

 

[VCO]

Rev 5:10 and you have made them a kingdom and priests to our God, and they shall reign on the earth.”

 

[crossnote]

First of all I have to explain 5:24,

You'll have to first explain which 5:24? Ezekiel chap 5 only goes to v.17. (That was the last book being referenced.)

 

[Cameron143]

You'll have to first explain which 5:24? Ezekiel chap 5 only goes to v.17. (That was the last book being referenced.)

Explain all of them. And collect a hundred foreskins.