What if you die before water baptism?
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I am not.
Gods word does not say we must be water baptised to be saved
It says we have been saved by grace, through faith not of works (like water baptism)
and it says we were prety much saved the same way Abraham was. By faith.. Abraham was not water baptized. Your prety much condemning the whole OT to hell.. and leading all your followers right their with them
Gods word does not say we must be water baptised to be saved
It says we have been saved by grace, through faith not of works (like water baptism)
and it says we were prety much saved the same way Abraham was. By faith.. Abraham was not water baptized. Your prety much condemning the whole OT to hell.. and leading all your followers right their with them
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No problem. Lots of folks are cherry pickers these days and it doesn't effect me one way or the other.
Water baptism is being obedient just like living by faith. The wrath of God comes upon the children of disobedient so feel free to tell everyone you know to NOT get baptized and we'll see how this disobedience thing works out.
Be sure and take your big black marker and remove these verses from your bible:
Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Acts 2:37.38
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
1 Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Colossians 2:11-13
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
God said to assemble together. He said to honor our parents, He said to give to the poor. He said to study without ceasing, He said many many things
Not to get saved, But because we are saved
We already went through colossians and Romans, It is not water baptism.
But if you want to insist it is.. Then you can explain how you misinterpret a word. And explain it to God
Not to get saved, But because we are saved
We already went through colossians and Romans, It is not water baptism.
But if you want to insist it is.. Then you can explain how you misinterpret a word. And explain it to God
I'm not saying one does not first repent, believe, and confess Jesus as their Lord and Savior. This is of course the first thing one does for initial salvation. Without doing this, one can get dunked in the water all they want and that does not make them saved.
After initial salvation, the Lord instructs us to be baptized which is a public demonstration and public acknowledgement before others that we are dead with Him and are raised up together unto new life.... it is making a covenant with the Lord when we are baptized, making a commitment, making a promise to turn from our old life unto living for Him.
This process is the starting point for us to start walking in newness of life, having a clean conscience toward God which is what actually saves us. Being dunked in water itself is not the moment one becomes born again as we should already be born again before getting baptized.
As mentioned in 1 Peter 3:21, having a clean conscience toward God having accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior, having confessed out sins before the Lord is what saves us.
Now... as we see the thief on the Cross next to Jesus acknowledge the Lord as His Savior (Luke 23:39-43)... and Jesus told this man that he was going to paradise, if one finds themselves in a situation where it's not possible to get water baptized, then they will still be saved if they have truly been born again.
Apart from this, we are required to be baptized because God's tells us to be water baptized in His Word.
Those having opportunity to be baptized and choose to disobey God's Word are disobeying the Gospel and the wrath of God comes upon the children of disobedience (knowingly disobeying the Lord is an evil desire, see Colossians 3:5,6).
Through the faith of the operation of God (Colossians 2:12) through water baptism are we raised up in newness of life (Romans 6:4) to have a clean conscience towards the Lord to walk with Him and we will be saved IF we endure until the end of our life abiding IN Christ.
In conclusion, if one has opportunity to be baptized and chooses to ignore and disobey Mark 16:16, Acts 2:37.38, 1 Peter 3:21, Colossians 2:11-13, and Romans 6:4...then the after life is not going to be as they think.
Maybe someday you can catch up ro what God's Word is saying.
We have high hopes for you dude!
