Paul is speaking to those that are labourers together with him with God, telling them ye are God'd husbandry and ye are God's building (verse 9) God tests his children's works for he is like a refiners fire, and like fuller's soap (Mal 3:2). If their work does not pass the test, they will suffer loss, but not the loss of their eternal inheritance.
Predestination is misunderstood...
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Paul is speaking to those that are labourers together with him with God, telling them ye are God'd husbandry and ye are God's building (verse 9) God tests his children's works for he is like a refiners fire, and like fuller's soap (Mal 3:2). If their work does not pass the test, they will suffer loss, but not the loss of their eternal inheritance.
you didn't even know the bible said be as wise as serpents,
And you asked where it was in scripture with a puzzled mind, not believing it could be in scripture.
Because you probably thought no we can't be wise as satan.
And now you've seen the scripture and now your saying we can be wise as satan.
Now your also trying to justify what you originally thought could not be in scripture in the blink of eye to be right by your opinion yet again , with a different opinion than you had in the first place.
Obviously you and your friends @Genez who supported your shocking comment, both obviously like to prove yourselves right no matter what.
Even to stoop as low as saying yes Jesus probably meant be as wise as satan.
Honestly I've heard some rubbish in my time but you both have won star prize.
And you asked where it was in scripture with a puzzled mind, not believing it could be in scripture.
Because you probably thought no we can't be wise as satan.
And now you've seen the scripture and now your saying we can be wise as satan.
Now your also trying to justify what you originally thought could not be in scripture in the blink of eye to be right by your opinion yet again , with a different opinion than you had in the first place.
Obviously you and your friends @Genez who supported your shocking comment, both obviously like to prove yourselves right no matter what.
Even to stoop as low as saying yes Jesus probably meant be as wise as satan.
Honestly I've heard some rubbish in my time but you both have won star prize.
John 3:6, The Holy Spirit cannot communicate spiritual matters to a person that is not already born again of the Spirit.
Romans 1 - Paul is directing his comments to all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints. The children of God that Paul is talking too, have been taught of God, but have turned away from God, lusting after the things of the world. Romans depicts just how gross a child of God can be, when he is walking in the flesh instead of walking in the Spirit.
Heb 11:6, Our faith as filthy rags (Isaiah 64:6). When we have been born again, we have spiritual faith which is a fruit of the Holy Spirit which indwells the spiritually born.
Every serpent is as harmless as a dove, also?
Looks like something in the translation keeps getting lost in your brain?
Is that the poor man's shock therapy? ....
Looks like something in the translation keeps getting lost in your brain?
Is that the poor man's shock therapy? ....
It says be as wise as serpents and as harmless as dove.
Where does it say serpents are as harmless as doves.
There's a screw needs adjusting in your brain, or probably you need a dose of lightening to wake you up.
Serpents being wise could be,. because they look for hiding places to protects themselves,
So you then should shelter in the lord to protect yourself and not yourself.
Listen what you need to do is take each comment that comes, don't say the first word that comes into your head.
Take it to the lord in quiet time, and ask him for his wisdom. And wait.
That is simply your assumption because you prefer to think ill of me.
You simply don't listen to what is said with understanding. Wisdom is understanding. Do you think God wants us to be ignorant of evil, that we are to face it without any understanding?
You should start listening more to your own arguments then.
You simply don't listen to what is said with understanding. Wisdom is understanding. Do you think God wants us to be ignorant of evil, that we are to face it without any understanding?
You should start listening more to your own arguments then.
God is indeed good to all but you need to remember that God's goodness is found in His justice as well as His mercy as most clearly seen in the cross of Christ.
If all things work together for the good of those who love God who are the called according to His purpose, how then do all things work together for those who do not love God and are not the called according to His purpose?
By implying that God has grace towards every person you are denying the doctrine of predestination wherein God saves those He loves unless somehow you think that God loves those He justly casts into Hell?
If all things work together for the good of those who love God who are the called according to His purpose, how then do all things work together for those who do not love God and are not the called according to His purpose?
By implying that God has grace towards every person you are denying the doctrine of predestination wherein God saves those He loves unless somehow you think that God loves those He justly casts into Hell?
The unbeliever can not know about the rapture. He can not know about the thousand year reign of the Lord on earth.... etc.
Those are "spiritual truths."
But, one thing is for sure, even though he is unregenerate.
He CAN KNOW HE IS A SINNER!
The leading into salvation begins with knowing one is a sinner.
An unbeliever can understand the things of the flesh....
I did not know that Jesus is also God when I got VERY saved.
To get saved does not require spiritual discernment...
Only after we are saved are we to have spiritual discernment!
Does that help?
grace and peace .....
It seems like you do not know what the word Sovereignty means and need to look it up in a Dictionary.
Do the Scriptures describe God as being the things below?
Do the Scriptures describe God as being the things below?
- Supremacy of authority or rule as exercised by a sovereign or sovereign state.
- Royal rank, authority, or power.
- Complete independence and self-government.
That is what I said. The natural man cannot comprehend spiritual maters because he has no capacity for it. This does not mean he cannot comprehend right and wrong or good and evil for these are moral issues as well. This is how God can speak to man and be heard by him even though he is spiritually dead.
Context. Paul is talking about people who deny the very existence of God. So no, these are not people who have learned of God. It is perfectly acceptable to be talking to believers about unbelievers you know.
And until we reach that point God draws people to Christ on the basis I spoke of. Those who learn from the Father are given to Christ and are saved.
John 6:44-45
44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.
Context. Paul is talking about people who deny the very existence of God. So no, these are not people who have learned of God. It is perfectly acceptable to be talking to believers about unbelievers you know.
And until we reach that point God draws people to Christ on the basis I spoke of. Those who learn from the Father are given to Christ and are saved.
John 6:44-45
44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.