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My answer to these questions are i do not know. And I certainly will not take the word of a bunch of censationalist that will attack you, me or anyone else that believes in the gifts of the holy Spirit. I have absolutely NO CLUE why you posted this to my answer for the question that was asked of three of us, I stand by my answer, I have always stated what I believe on here, if your saying in a kind way Im a censationalist, or that I attack ppl who believe in the gifts etc, I suggest you go back and read, or better yet ASK what denomination I AM. I dont do 3rd grade bickerin kind of sort of say something in a round about way...I just throw it out there, so no one is confused, I havent ever read anything on rick joyner, never intend to, and never said anything negative about his person other than IF ITS CONTRARY TO THE WORD.....I WOULDNT READ IT. The end.