Where will he take us?

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Mem

Mem

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Stan_the_Man said:
I'm sorry to see you apparently have zero sense of humor whatsoever.






The one world government and one world leader is coming... the US will give up it's sovereignty and come under the authority of the one world government and one world leader

When this happens we will know that all checks and balances in our form if government have failed and the US Constitution will become useless, a relic from the past.
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This scenario sounds like it came from Hollywood execs.
 
Stan_the_Man

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Mem said:
This scenario sounds like it came from Hollywood execs.
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Those guys are all woke and don't put out nuthin funny anymore, except for jokes about Trump, conservatives, and Christians.
 
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Gojira

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Susanna said:
What I say is my business. The president, our CiC, needs soldiers he can rely on. Like it or not, that’s how it works.
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How far would you take this? For example, would you disobey God if the "CiC" ordered you to?
 
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Stan_the_Man said:
Nice try, but you are taking Luke 20:25 way out of context which is what German soldiers did in WW2 when they were ordered to murder innocent Jewish civilians
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Egggzactly.

"I was just following orders!" does not absolve you from accountability.
 
Mem

Mem

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Stan_the_Man said:
Those guys are all woke and don't put out nuthin funny anymore, except for jokes about Trump, conservatives, and Christians.
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I gather it is because no one can laugh at themselves anymore. They've become too, I don't know, what, seriously "legit"? :ROFL:
 
Genipher

Genipher

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Gojira said:
How far would you take this? For example, would you disobey God if the "CiC" ordered you to?
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I dont think she'll answer. I've tried to ask in a couple ways and she deflects or changes the subject. Maybe she hasn't really thought about it deeply or maybe is afraid to admit she misspoke or perhaps she just needs to do some soul searching on the matter but as it stands, it's kinda telling that she won't give a clear answer.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb

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Susanna said:
If Trump is elected president, what will happen next? How will his relationship with the dictators of the world affect us? Will they once again make him look a little underdeveloped?

I have no doubt that Trump knows how to make everything about himself, but let’s be a little bit like the conspiracy theorists. Who’s behind Trump? Whose bidding is he doing? Is he aware of that?

The theocratic people seems to love him, but how constitutional is a theocracy? How constitutional is a theocratic society meddling into the private sphere of the citizens? How free will we be in such a society?
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I don't expect him to be different than his first four years. I recall being a lot more free then than today.
 
Susanna

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Genipher said:
I dont think she'll answer. I've tried to ask in a couple ways and she deflects or changes the subject. Maybe she hasn't really thought about it deeply or maybe is afraid to admit she misspoke or perhaps she just needs to do some soul searching on the matter but as it stands, it's kinda telling that she won't give a clear answer.
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What is telling is the monomaniacal search for a “clear answer” from other people. If you have a problem with my answers, just move on and think of me as that silly old hag who couldn’t even give you the answer you wanted.
 
Genipher

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Susanna said:
What is telling is the monomaniacal search for a “clear answer” from other people. If you have a problem with my answers, just move on and think of me as that silly old hag who couldn’t even give you the answer you wanted.
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It's a pretty simple question though.
And it's not that I have a problem with your answers but I'm concerned at your non-answers and evasion. As a follower of the One True God it shouldn't be difficult to speak up, so to speak, and say yes, God is more important than the government I work for. I put Him first, not Man and am loyal to Him above all.

I'm sorry you feel you can't give an answer. Praying you'll be able to examine yourself and figure out where your loyalties should lie before it's too late. Oh, and you're not a silly old hag.
 
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Susanna said:
Who said anything about not being held accountable? If I do wrong I expect to be held accountable for my actions.
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Okay... so you're okay being judged by God. You really sure about that?

Susanna said:
There’s no point in taking this any further. I have said what I said and leave it at that.
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Yyyyyeeeeep.
 
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Gojira

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Genipher said:
It's a pretty simple question though.
And it's not that I have a problem with your answers but I'm concerned at your non-answers and evasion. As a follower of the One True God it shouldn't be difficult to speak up, so to speak, and say yes, God is more important than the government I work for. I put Him first, not Man and am loyal to Him above all.

I'm sorry you feel you can't give an answer. Praying you'll be able to examine yourself and figure out where your loyalties should lie before it's too late. Oh, and you're not a silly old hag.
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Awesome.
 
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Gojira

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Susanna said:
So, you’re actually saying that I’m going straight to hell? You’re a pretty judgmental character. I hope that makes you feel better.😊
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Wow... what an evasive response. I'm sorry, but that really permits only so many conclusions.

Can you say that if the president told you to do something you knew was sinful -- not a gray area or not something that unfortunately has to happen in wartime -- you would do it to remain loyal to him/her? This is a simple yes or no question.
 
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Gojira

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Genipher said:
It's a pretty simple question though.
And it's not that I have a problem with your answers but I'm concerned at your non-answers and evasion. As a follower of the One True God it shouldn't be difficult to speak up, so to speak, and say yes, God is more important than the government I work for. I put Him first, not Man and am loyal to Him above all.

I'm sorry you feel you can't give an answer. Praying you'll be able to examine yourself and figure out where your loyalties should lie before it's too late. Oh, and you're not a silly old hag.
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Government is ultimately to be a servant of God, the earthly entity designed to mitigate the chaos that sin brings. Of course we know Romans 13, and this quote from the Federalist: If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.

Like all things human, governments have to answer to God. I will obey the laws of my nation -- until they cease to be righteous. How do I know what's righteous? Not by my own sinful heart, that's for sure, but by the word of God. Sir William Blackstone said that any laws not aligned with the Bible were not valid.
 
Magenta

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Susanna said:
There’s no point in taking this any further. I have said what I said and leave it at that.
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Expecting/demanding you to answer a hypothetical question about a possible future scenario is a bit much .:unsure::censored:
 
Susanna

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Gojira said:
Wow... what an evasive response. I'm sorry, but that really permits only so many conclusions.

Can you say that if the president told you to do something you knew was sinful -- not a gray area or not something that unfortunately has to happen in wartime -- you would do it to remain loyal to him/her? This is a simple yes or no question.
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I’m sorry, but like I said, I’m done with this subject.
 
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Gojira

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Susanna said:
I’m sorry, but like I said, I’m done with this subject.
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Don't tell me the answer. You're ultimately only answerable to God. But, if you're not in right standing with Him, answering to Him will not go well for you. You need to decide who is God: Your commander-in-chief, or the One Who is actually God.
 
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