Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[ZNP]

I was supportive of him but now he wants to change the constitution and as someone who owes a debt to my relatives who fought in the revolutionary war and to my God to uphold the law of the land witch is the constitution I have a obligation to oppose him.

that’s the line we Constitutionalist have always said we would never cross. And now I am Shedding tears as I watch, my fellow Americans betray their country by supporting the biggest threat to our republic we have ever faced.

You mean your relatives (and mine) realized "When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another,"

So at one point your relatives realized that it became necessary to dissolve the political bands that connected them to the rulers, and you think that somehow if their ancestors also have to come to that same point in history they are betraying them? That sounds like hypocrisy.

"and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of ..."

They argued that they should be given a decent respect for their opinions but you think their relatives don't deserve that same respect but should be doormats? That is hypocrisy.

 

[ZNP]

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[note 1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Do we have justice for all? Do we have domestic tranquility? Is our government promoting the general welfare? Are they securing blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity?

1. Do we have justice for all? -- No. The trial in NY where they want to seize $455 million from Trump is proof of that and everyone needs to be warned.

2. Do we have domestic tranquility? -- No, when the President of the US calls 75 million Americans domestic terrorists then you do not have domestic tranquility. When parents are dragged out of school board meetings because they are complaining about their daughter being raped in the bathroom and the school covering it up, you do not have domestic tranquility.

3. Is our Government Providing for the common defense? No. When Texas has to fight against the Biden administration to defend the border and their people from invasion the answer is no.

4. Is the Government providing for the General welfare? No. When less than 10% are profiting from the governments policies while 80% are paying for them and suffering the answer is no.

5. Is the government securing blessings of liberty to us and our posterity? No. When the government budget is close to $8 trillion a year while the revenue is $4.5 trillion and this is when we already owe $34 trillion the answer is no.

This is why Tamarisk's relatives fought in the revolutionary war, I suspect if they were here now they would rebuke him for not standing up for the things they fought and died for.

 

[Tamarisk]

You mean your relatives (and mine) realized "When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another,"

So at one point your relatives realized that it became necessary to dissolve the political bands that connected them to the rulers, and you think that somehow if their ancestors also have to come to that same point in history they are betraying them? That sounds like hypocrisy.

"and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of ..."

They argued that they should be given a decent respect for their opinions but you think their relatives don't deserve that same respect but should be doormats? That is hypocrisy.

I don’t believe we are at that same point in history. Let’s face it we don’t live in a capitalist society anymore America is now a corporatist nation. We are run by corporations that have designed this civil unrest in order to keep us at oneathers throats instead of Uniting against them as one American people when we go through the Upcoming economic crash. Right now there Making record profits before they runoff to South America and leave us in the dust.

We don’t need to change the constitution. We need to get rid of the amendment that declares corporations as people. That is our true problem as a country.

 

[ZNP]

I don’t believe we are at that same point in history. Let’s face it we don’t live in a capitalist society anymore America is now a corporatist nation. We are run by corporations that have designed this civil unrest in order to keep us at oneathers throats instead of Uniting against them as one American people when we go through the Upcoming economic crash. Right now there Making record profits before they runoff to South America and leave us in the dust.

We don’t need to change the constitution. We need to get rid of the amendment that declares corporations as people. That is our true problem as a country.

You have the right to that opinion. But accusing those who have a different opinion of betraying their country and your relatives who fought in the revolutionary war is bogus. At the time of the revolutionary war there were "Loyalists", those who supported King George. According to John Adams about a third supported the revolutionary war, a third supported the king and a third were neutral.

So you are a loyalist but your relatives were revolutionaries.

 

[Tamarisk]

You have the right to that opinion. But accusing those who have a different opinion of betraying their country and your relatives who fought in the revolutionary war is bogus. At the time of the revolutionary war there were "Loyalists", those who supported King George. According to John Adams about a third supported the revolutionary war, a third supported the king and a third were neutral.

So you are a loyalist but your relatives were revolutionaries.

When someone is in support of doing away with the separation of powers turning America into a one party dictatorship yes they have betrayed our country and any oaths they made to the constitution.

 

[Tamarisk]

When someone is in support of doing away with the separation of powers turning America into a one party dictatorship yes they have betrayed our country and any oaths they made to the constitution.

Disregard as I have switched to a neutral position in order to protect my heart from being infected with hatred.

 

[HeIsHere]

This simply reveals your ignorance about COVID-19. That was a laboratory created bioweapon, since there is no such actual natural virus. But all the MSM have been attacking the idea that COVID-19 was produced in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. None of them wants the truth since they were all a part of the COVID tyranny. And God had absolutely nothing to do with the COVID conspiracy. That was all Satan's doing.

Are you saying we have the ability to create viruses from nothing?

 

[ZNP]

When someone is in support of doing away with the separation of powers turning America into a one party dictatorship yes they have betrayed our country and any oaths they made to the constitution.

Point me to the offending post, you still haven't done that. You keep putting up hypotheticals to justify yourself. Where is the post where I said any of that? You are one with the accuser of the brethren.

 

[ZNP]

Disregard as I have switched to a neutral position in order to protect my heart from being infected with hatred.

You have publicly put these up on the internet for all to see. Accusations of treason which is punishable by death. Righteous judgement is "as you have done it will be done to you". You can't simply say "disregard", they are there. You need to retract and apologize.

 

[Tamarisk]

You have publicly put these up on the internet for all to see. Accusations of treason which is punishable by death. Righteous judgement is "as you have done it will be done to you". You can't simply say "disregard", they are there. You need to retract and apologize.

I made a mistake. You asked me for a apology and I have apologized. If this is your opinion then you are welcome to it. If I have welcomed the worlds damnation oppon my life then this is the lot in life I must live.

This world is not my home and I have the grace and mercy of my God. I do not need the approval of man.

 

[HeIsHere]

I made a mistake. You asked me for a apology and I have apologized. If this is your opinion then you are welcome to it. If I have welcomed the worlds damnation oppon my life then this is the lot in life I must live.

This world is not my home and I have the grace and mercy of my God. I do not need the approval of man.

Best not to take Christian Chat too seriously.

 

[Tamarisk]

Best not to take Christian Chat too seriously.

True, However I was pissed off and I can’t carry this mindset into the real world. It’s just not worth having political beliefs if they lead to hate.

 

[HeIsHere]

Tire. However I was pissed off and I can’t carry this mindset into the real world. It’s just not worth having political beliefs if they lead to hate.

Not sure if you mean people hating you or vice versa, but we cannot control other people's view of us, you have a right to express your views and just ignore people who personalize everything in a very negative way, this happens a lot so I guess it comes down to how much you can tolerate of this happening.

Generally speaking, speaking ill of Trump does not go over well in these parts, lol.

It is a challenge there is no doubt and I would agree that it is not worth it if once you leave the computer you still feel angry.

 

[cv5]

he wants to change the constitution

Amending the Constitution is practically impossible. Never going to happen.


Martial law maybe.....but not that.

 

[cv5]

True, However I was pissed off and I can’t carry this mindset into the real world. It’s just not worth having political beliefs if they lead to hate.

Just to let you know....I do not hate anybody. Biden needs prayer. So does Putin, Zel, Trump and every other unsaved soul.
I think that by their fruits you shall know them applies, and we should be able to discern the bad trees.

Jesus is extending His hand to them right to the bitter end and so should we.

That being said, criminal actors in governmental positions doing criminal actions need to be voted out of office.

On this we can agree. And who these criminal actors are is quite apparent. Or should be to the inquiring mind.

Rev 22:17
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

 

[cv5]

Wowser. Looks like Trump just filled his war chest to the brim. Good for him!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1771192974157750456

 

[cv5]

Edumacational to be sure.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1707049569492586675

 

[Nehemiah6]

Are you saying we have the ability to create viruses from nothing?

COVID-19 was a more virulent modification of a coronavirus variety found in bats, but not in humans. There is a whole family of coronaviruses, but COVID-19 resembles the ones which infect humans by only 89%, since it is a LABORATORY MODIFICATION. Therefore it is not a genuine natural coronavirus. It could not be isolated using the strict protocols used by virologists and microbiologists to isolate viruses and identify them. None of this information was presented by the MSM.

"...There is no detailed explanation and scientific evidence on the hypothesis regarding the generation of SARS-COV-2 through cell culture or animal passage, which would have required prior isolation of a precursor virus with high similarity in the genomic sequence..."

SARS-COV-2 as an artificial creation: scientific arguments and counterarguments
J Med Life. 2021 Jan-Feb; 14(1): 118–120.
doi: 10.25122/jml-2020-0175

 

[HeIsHere]

COVID-19 was a more virulent modification of a coronavirus variety found in bats, but not in humans. There is a whole family of coronaviruses, but COVID-19 resembles the ones which infect humans by only 89%, since it is a LABORATORY MODIFICATION. Therefore it is not a genuine natural coronavirus. It could not be isolated using the strict protocols used by virologists and microbiologists to isolate viruses and identify them. None of this information was presented by the MSM.

"...There is no detailed explanation and scientific evidence on the hypothesis regarding the generation of SARS-COV-2 through cell culture or animal passage, which would have required prior isolation of a precursor virus with high similarity in the genomic sequence..."

SARS-COV-2 as an artificial creation: scientific arguments and counterarguments
J Med Life. 2021 Jan-Feb; 14(1): 118–120.
doi: 10.25122/jml-2020-0175

Yes thank you for the clarification, not my background but it makes sense to me!

 

[Nehemiah6]

Yes thank you for the clarification, not my background but it makes sense to me!

Since I have a background in microbiology, I am able to dig a bit deeper. But the whole world should have been aware that China never allows the truth about anything to come out.

First it was "wet markets", then it was "unintentional release", then it was heavy opposition to connecting the Wuhan Institute of Virology to the creation of bioweapons for the Chinese military, and so on. And the Western media were more than happy to push Chinese propaganda. But the American government was funding this bioweapon research, and there was definitely a conspiracy to create a pandemic and profit from it. The documentation is all there but has been quickly suppressed or redacted.