Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

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FollowerofShiloh

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Inquisitor said:
Yes, Jesus was only sent to Israel, the Gentiles were grafted in much later.

Jesus did comment on the Gentiles below.

John 10:16
And I have other sheep that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice; and they will become one flock, with one shepherd.
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Amen!

Gentiles are joint-heirs.
 
Cameron143

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FollowerofShiloh said:
Where does Paul, who is Apostle for the GENTLES, call you sheep?

Jesus is talking about the Jews here to the Pharisees.

He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
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Who are the sheep of His other fold?
Paul doesn't have sheep. And Paul was writing under the inspiration of God. So I suppose he didn't use the term sheep because the Spirit didn't lead Him to.
 
FollowerofShiloh

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Jesus said the Jews "Know His voice" and the Gentiles will "listen to His voice."
 
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Cameron143 said:
Didn't Jesus say He had sheep in another fold?
And why didn't Paul say lots of things Jesus said? Perhaps he is not the good Shepherd. Perhaps he wasn't sent to seek and to save. Perhaps they aren't his sheep.
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All those who come to Jesus are in the fold, the scattered ones, too.
 
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The Key for everyone, Jew and Gentile, If you are listening, you will be Saved. If you "are not" listening, you won't be saved.
 
FollowerofShiloh

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Cameron143 said:
Verse 16 doesn't say anything about listening. It says they hear His voice.
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"they will listen to my voice " requires hearing.

16 And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.

Oh yeah, you probably use the kjv. I don't use any TR text.

Inquisitor said:
John 10:16
And I have other sheep that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice; and they will become one flock, with one shepherd.
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Cameron143

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FollowerofShiloh said:
The sheep Jesus is talking about in John 10 are already in the pen.

2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
3 To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
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Not the ones of another fold.
 
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