Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

[7thMoon]

The myth is in your head, sir. You have the mind of a natural man.

You question my logic, and call logic a sin of the flesh? Sorry, I don't buy into that.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Nice but total bull excrement.

hardened cow pies make excellent frisbees

...just make sure they're fully hardened first, though

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Nice but total bull excrement.

Your post is total bull excrement.

The fact you could not prove me wrong just shows it..

 

[7thMoon]

Agree, "dead" in scripture often means separated not incapacitated.

Dead in scripture means your old body is a corpse. In James, it is feminine, meaning you could die, if you don't correct your actions.

 

[7thMoon]

Your post is total bull excrement.

The fact you could not prove me wrong just shows it..

You need to prove thy contention first. Jesus was not saved, but he tasted death so many would be translated like Enoch.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Dead in scripture means your old body is a corpse. In James, it is feminine, meaning you could die, if you don't correct your actions.

spoken like a true pharisee

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

They just ain't fair you see!

 

[7thMoon]

spoken like a true pharisee

You don't know what a Pharisee is. It a Jewish-Hebrew policeman out of control.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

You need to prove thy contention first. Jesus was not saved, but he tasted death so many would be translated like Enoch.

The fact you think Jesus needed saved or he was not saved, just proves my point

Just goes to further show you can't prove me wrong.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

You don't know what a Pharisee is. It a Jewish-Hebrew policeman out of control.

Oh I know what a pharisee is, He is one who pumps his chest praising God he is not like the tax collector. and crucifies the one who tells him he is not good enough..

 

[7thMoon]

The fact you think Jesus needed saved or he was not saved, just proves my point

Just goes to further show you can't prove me wrong.

He didn't need saving. God was going to wake him from the dead, and he Jesus, was going to stand his corpse form out of the dead.

 

[7thMoon]

Oh I know what a pharisee is, He is one who pumps his chest praising God he is not like the tax collector. and crucifies the one who tells him he is not good enough..

It is a matter of vocabulary. You can't rescue, i.e. biblically save something already dead.

 

[Cameron143]

Above where?

When you asked about the doctor. But I can repeat. I trust my wife implicitly because over time I have come to know her.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

He didn't need saving. God was going to wake him from the dead, and he Jesus, was going to stand his corpse form out of the dead.

Your right,

But he, as a person who knew no sin, because sin for us

His death paid the penalty so we could be justified.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

It is a matter of vocabulary. You can't rescue, i.e. biblically save something already dead.

Your right i can't

but God can.. He proved that over and over. In fact. when I was dead, he saved me.

 

[7thMoon]

Your right,

But he, as a person who knew no sin, because sin for us

His death paid the penalty so we could be justified.

His penalty was unjust. But he atoned for Israel in such a role.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

His penalty was unjust. But he atoned for Israel in such a role.

It was.

But he died for the world

Have you ever read the scripture?

 

[Cameron143]

hardened cow pies make excellent frisbees

...just make sure they're fully hardened first, though

And don't shake hands or wipe sweat from your face.

 

[7thMoon]

Your right i can't

but God can.. He proved that over and over. In fact. when I was dead, he saved me.

Does god break the laws of time and space to prevent deaths? He wakes the dead; he doesn't save them. Wow, didn't expect the bluntness to get on people's nerves.

 

[CS1]

Those who are saved are completely saved from the penalty of sin (justification)
Are being saved from the power of sin (spiritual maturity or sanctification)
Will be saved from the ability to sin (glorification)

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