Death curses the law

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Before Adam and eve fell God gave Adam and eve two laws

Don't eat from the tree of good.and evil

Man shall not live alone

Then men digested evil

And evil death entered in them and started to curse the law

Sounds like common sense to me.
 
It might sound like common sense, but it's not what Scripture says. There was only one law given. "It is not good for man to live alone" is not a law, but a statement of a problem needing a solution... which God had already planned.

Men didn't "digest evil"; one man disobeyed God's command and the consequence is that every human inherits both physical death and the sin nature.
 
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Dino246 said:
It might sound like common sense, but it's not what Scripture says. There was only one law given. "It is not good for man to live alone" is not a law, but a statement of a problem needing a solution... which God had already planned.

Men didn't "digest evil"; one man disobeyed God's command and the consequence is that every human inherits both physical death and the sin nature.
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so What made man become like God after eating from the tree then
 
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Dino246 said:
It might sound like common sense, but it's not what Scripture says. There was only one law given. "It is not good for man to live alone" is not a law, but a statement of a problem needing a solution... which God had already planned.

Men didn't "digest evil"; one man disobeyed God's command and the consequence is that every human inherits both physical death and the sin nature.
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Good morning Dino thanks for informing me your a Calvinist at least I know where i stand 😊
 
Another very important question that may have been overlooked is.

In the beginning God said let us make man in our image.

So in the beginning he did just that.


Now after that God said and now man has become like us.

Well if you look at this sentiment, this is not how God created us, so whats the difference here 🤔



 
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Does anyone have free will in the above passage



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Does anyone have free will in the above passage 😋

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The apple is a symbol of sin. When Adam and Eve ate the apple, they were committing the first act of disobedience against God. This act led to their expulsion from the Garden of Eden and introduced sin into the world. The apple is a reminder that we are all sinners and that we need God’s forgiveness.


The apple is also a symbol of knowledge. When Adam and Eve ate the apple, they acquired knowledge of good and evil. This was a significant moment in human history because it marked the beginning of our journey towards moral maturity. The apple is a reminder that we should never stop learning and growing in our understanding of right and wrong.

(here)

The Significance of the Apple in Adam and Eve: A Biblical

Also, please stop playing the "questions" game. Give your opinion concerning the question(s) you pose. Yeah, that would be swell.
 
p_rehbein said:
(excerpt)

The apple is a symbol of sin. When Adam and Eve ate the apple, they were committing the first act of disobedience against God. This act led to their expulsion from the Garden of Eden and introduced sin into the world. The apple is a reminder that we are all sinners and that we need God’s forgiveness.


The apple is also a symbol of knowledge. When Adam and Eve ate the apple, they acquired knowledge of good and evil. This was a significant moment in human history because it marked the beginning of our journey towards moral maturity. The apple is a reminder that we should never stop learning and growing in our understanding of right and wrong.

(here)

The Significance of the Apple in Adam and Eve: A Biblical

Also, please stop playing the "questions" game. Give your opinion concerning the question(s) you pose. Yeah, that would be swell.
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in what state of disobedience did they sin.

There are many sides to disobedience.



This is important

Did they sin in denial of Gods word.

Or did they sin in innocence to God's word.

The sin of disobedience is still there.

But have you looked at the intension of disobedience.

As God always look at the motive of sin and the intension of the sin.

This is not excusing sin.

But God clearly says a person can be made to stumble, but he still punishes people for being irresponsible
 
Thunderrr-mental said:
But God clearly says a person can be made to stumble, but he still punishes people for being irresponsible
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Have to disagree with this. Scripture teaches that God will not allow us to be tempted more than we can withstand. IMO, it is a weakness of faith that allows us to give in to the temptations that beset us. (just saying)
 
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I disliked your post because of this.

This is very disrespectful comment
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In the same way, I could "x" your comments when you ask a bunch of questions without offering opinions of your own to answer the questions you pose. We have more than a few who come here and pose "hot topic" questions without offering their opinions. And, when others take the time to post an answer, the person just asks another question. And this continuous asking of one questions after another continues.

IMO, that is truly disrespectful because it is not the way people learn from eachother. We learn with respectful "exchanging" of thoughts, beliefs, and Scripture.
 
p_rehbein said:
Have to disagree with this. Scripture teaches that God will not allow us to be tempted more than we can withstand. IMO, it is a weakness of faith that allows us to give in to the temptations that beset us. (just saying)
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Oh well you must be above all man then and has been able to defeat all temptation before becoming saved
 
p_rehbein said:
In the same way, I could "x" your comments when you ask a bunch of questions without offering opinions of your own to answer the questions you pose. We have more than a few who come here and pose "hot topic" questions without offering their opinions. And, when others take the time to post an answer, the person just asks another question. And this continuous asking of one questions after another continues.

IMO, that is truly disrespectful because it is not the way people learn from eachother. We learn with respectful "exchanging" of thoughts, beliefs, and Scripture.
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ignorance is very expensive
 
Thunderrr-mental said:
Oh well you must be above all man then and has been able to defeat all temptation before becoming saved
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???
Were we not speaking of Adam and Eve? Salvation did not exist in the Garden. They were living in Gods grace.

Now, as far as your statement goes, many people can resist temptations in their daily lives. Both saved and unsaved. Prior to my salvation, I often did. Especially when it came to adultery, excessive drinking, criminal activities, reckless driving, and so on and so forth.

Scripture says that the gentiles:
Romans, Chapter 2:14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

So, you see, even the unsaved have some sense of right and wrong born within them before salvation.
 
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Were we not speaking of Adam and Eve? Salvation did not exist in the Garden. They were living in Gods grace.

Now, as far as your statement goes, many people can resist temptations in their daily lives. Both saved and unsaved. Prior to my salvation, I often did. Especially when it came to adultery, excessive drinking, criminal activities, reckless driving, and so on and so forth.

Scripture says that the gentiles:
Romans, Chapter 2:14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

So, you see, even the unsaved have some sense of right and wrong born within them before salvation.
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address your disrespectful comments you made to me first
 
Thunderrr-mental said:
Before Adam and eve fell God gave Adam and eve two laws

Don't eat from the tree of good.and evil

Man shall not live alone

Then men digested evil

And evil death entered in them and started to curse the law

Sounds like common sense to me.
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What do you mean that sin “cursed the law?” My understanding is that the curse is the result of a violation of the law. The law is not ”cursed” because the law is holy, upright and good. The problem is we are not. We are cursed, not the Law.
 
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Chaps said:
What do you mean that sin “cursed the law?” My understanding is that the curse is the result of a violation of the law. The law is not ”cursed” because the law is holy, upright and good. The problem is we are not. We are cursed, not the Law.
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I said death curses the law.
 
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