My ax-grinding partial preterist thread

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HEEEEEYYY.....wheres this thread been hiding??


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EG - Christ decreed, prophesied, said, uttered, spoke, cursed, talked, spoke THE DECREE when He walked the earth.

He prophesied THE DECREE against Jerusalem in the 70th week....it was NOT A SURPRISE. GABRIEL TOLD DANIEL EXACTLY HOW IT WAS GOING DOWN.

HE SPOKE IT BEFORE HE WAS CUT OFF......3 and 1/2 years into His ministry. in the MIDDLE OF THE 70TH WEEK.

Titus consummmated, carried out, did it, performed, desolated her WITHIN THAT GENERATION....less than 40 years.
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EG.....how many times does this need to be explained to you?
 
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Thanks, zone, but I disagree with almost all of it.

Dispensationalism is not new doctrine. God has had several distinct ways in which He deals with people throughout time. Information about this current dispensation of grace was given to Paul:

Eph 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
Col 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;

This administration of grace "fulfills" the word of God. There was indeed a "gap". OT prophets could forsee the two comings of Christ, but they did not know about this administration of grace. It was God's mystery, or secret. It was "hid in God".

Eph 3:
8) Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
9) And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Israel IS separate from the church. Before Pentecost, there were Jews and gentiles. Now, in this administration, there is the body of Christ, made up of both Jews and gentiles. When this administration ends (at the rapture), things will revert to Jew and gentile again, and God will pick up His plan regarding Israel.

There WILL BE a seven year tribulation (time of Jacob's trouble). It is prophesied many times in the OT. It is still future.

There are administrations in scripture, and they must be understood to rightly-divide the bible.
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hi bud.
thanks for the support with wazzizface yesterday.....



no Plan B church - Leaven of the Pharisees.

ISRAEL IS THE CHURCH AND VICE VERSA
unbelieving jews are as lost as unbelieving gentiles.

(and show me a geentic Hebrew please!)

[SIZE=+1]TABLE OF CONTENTS[/SIZE]THE STORY OF SCOFIELD'S LIFE
SCOFIELD NOTES ANSWERED
DANIEL'S 70 WEEKS
THE REAL ISRAEL
ORIGIN OF SCOFIELD HERESIES
Scriptures quoted from KJV

ANALYZING Cyrus I. Scofield and His Teaching
 
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1still_waters said:
Just mind blowing seriously.
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Still
when those last few threads of dispensationalism fall away the whole thing looks quite different, ya?

big problem for futurists: since when will God EVER want animal sacrifices again?
 
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Still
when those last few threads of dispensationalism fall away the whole thing looks quite different, ya?

big problem for futurists: since when will God EVER want animal sacrifices again?
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who said he wanted them? No one that I know of says that, or believe it. This is what I mean by not trying to find out what someone believes and you think they believe something they don't
 
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Some of my best friends aren't pre-trib, Darby loving.:p
 
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eternally-gratefull said:

who said he wanted them? No one that I know of says that, or believe it. This is what I mean by not trying to find out what someone believes and you think they believe something they don't
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Shall we talk about Zech 14 again?

It's your proof texts for Jesus landing on the Mount of Olives and describes what goes on in the 'millenium' apparently.

Ready?
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
who said he wanted them? No one that I know of says that, or believe it. This is what I mean by not trying to find out what someone believes and you think they believe something they don't
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you and i are done EG.
done.
i told you once already about that with the antisemitic trash.

you don't even know what a semite is.
 
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One. I know you hate these people with a passion, but it should not cause you to seek the truth because you hate these people.
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You have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what REAL Jew-Hatred looks like. No idea at all!

Look at you! You've been shown the truth, and you still say Jews are gonna somehow gonna repent (how?when?where?) magically....so...I guess no hurry to preach the Gospel to them ya? No need even for a "Jew" to read the Gospels!

You hypocrite.
 
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you and i are done EG.
done.
i told you once already about that with the antisemitic trash.

you don't even know what a semite is.
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wow zone. I asked you where I ever said that God wants animal sacrifice and you think I said somethign about antisemetism>

Talk about being confused (me). You made a statement about my belief and I questioned ya about where I said it. how could you turn this into antisemetism?


 
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wow zone. I asked you where I ever said that God wants animal sacrifice and you think I said somethign about antisemetism>

Talk about being confused. You made a statement about my believ and I questioned ya on it. how could you turn this into antisemetism?
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One. I know you hate these people with a passion, but it should not cause you to seek the truth because you hate these people.

Woman said shes done with you.

I, however am still willing to debate you into the ground...again. So...Zech 14? Animal sacrifices?

Shall we?
 
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One. I know you hate these people with a passion, but it should not cause you to seek the truth because you hate these people.

Woman said shes done with you.

I, however am still willing to debate you into the ground...again. So...Zech 14? Animal sacrifices?

Shall we?
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I told ya awhile ago I am done with you. You twist everythign I say. Can't ya get the clue??

Yes I did say that. Because she said she hates the people that she keeps posting about and the tulmud. But that was not an antisemetic comment. I never claimed they were semites or jews.

Yet again you twist what I said. and you wonder why I refuse to talk to you anymore.. Get the hint??

I am sure your happy she is done with me.. Another friendship destroyed based on a nonsalvic issue.

and people wonder why Christianity seems to be a people of haters! and no one wants a part of it (rolls eyes)
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
I told ya awhile ago I am done with you. You twist everythign I say. Can't ya get the clue??

Yes I did say that. Because she said she hates the people that she keeps posting about and the tulmud. But that was not an antisemetic comment. I never claimed they were semites or jews.

Yet again you twist what I said. and you wonder why I refuse to talk to you anymore.. Get the hint??

I am sure your happy she is done with me.. Another friendship destroyed based on a nonsalvic issue.

and people wonder why Christianity seems to be a people of haters! and no one wants a part of it (rolls eyes)
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Shall I dig up your accusations of antisemitism?

Shall I dig up the issue you had with me twisting summink you said? Wasnt it the thing about you saying you worry about where your next meal comes from and then on another thread you say your theology is complete freedom from any worries?

The reason your done with me is coz you've lost every debate you've had with me. Thats why your scared to take me on again, in case I keep exposing your funky doctrine.

Is Jesus King?

Is the Kingdom here NOW?

Can a wife be a whore?

Does the bible ever speak of Jesus landing on Earth?

Shall we go in depth with Zech 14?

Questions questions........EG quaking......
 
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Just to make myself clear. People could easily say I HATE catholics because I think their church is the mother of the harlot. It is NOT THEM I hate, it is the organisation they belong to.

Same with those who practice the Talmud Zone keeps bringing up. It is the organization she hates. Not the people. I have no doubt if one of them was here she would be doing what she could to convert them to Christ.

Hating an organization does not mean you hate the people.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Just to make myself clear. People could easily say I HATE catholics because I think their church is the mother of the harlot. It is NOT THEM I hate, it is the organisation they belong to.

Same with those who practice the Talmud Zone keeps bringing up. It is the organization she hates. Not the people. I have no doubt if one of them was here she would be doing what she could to convert them to Christ.

Hating an organization does not mean you hate the people.
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Did Luther hate Jews then?

Oh man...yer gonna get exposed again....
 
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At least my eschatology doesn't try to replace the temple of the body of Christ with a new Jewish temple that sacrifices animals.
 
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At least my eschatology doesn't try to replace the temple of the body of Christ with a new Jewish temple that sacrifices animals.
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Niether does mine. What makes you think mine does? (and please don't think I am saying you antisemetic because I asked. I just want to know why you and zone think I believe this)
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Niether does mine. What makes you think mine does? (and please don't think I am saying you antisemetic because I asked. I just want to know why you and zone think I believe this)
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Stilly's not antisemitic, its just that all his beliefs come from antisemitism...right?
 
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At least my eschatology doesn't try to replace the temple of the body of Christ with a new Jewish temple that sacrifices animals.
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LOLZ! Its REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY!!!

They are trying to replace the temple! Temple HATERS!!!
 
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Me anti-semitic? hahaha that means I hate myself! My family has genetic jewish roots. Yes I've adopted a theory that demands I hate myself..lol
 
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Me anti-semitic? hahaha that means I hate myself! My family has genetic jewish roots. Yes I've adopted a theory that demands I hate myself..lol
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welcome to the self-haters' club.

Wallenstein's the maternal name. nice to meet you.

let's throw this trash in the can where it belongs and get serious about Christ Crucified: the gospel to the jews first, then the gentiles...we're running a little short on time.
 
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