Iran attacks Israel, sends hundreds of drones, missiles

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PennEd said:
Imagine.

We have gotten to the point that some ammillennialists despise Israel so much they are actually rooting for Iran!!

You can’t make this stuff up.
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I am just applying the same logic, same rules, why is this a problem, unlike you I have not ascribed emotion to your position.
You cannot even read my words properly, why is that?

-Israel has a right to defend itself,
-Ukraine has a right to defend itself,
-America has a right to defend itself

and therefore Iran a sovereign country as well has a right to defend itself.

I am against war, not sure why this is so hard to comprehend.
I am sorry your eschatology relies on death and mayhem mine does not.
 
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Susanna said:
Go tell that to an American soldier’s widow after he’s been blown to pieces by the Iran financed Hezbollah which has been attacking Israel in every vicious ways possible.
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I see you did not watch the video.
 
HeIsHere said:
Iran has a right to defend itself.
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Iran has BEEN the aggressor in the Israel conflicts by proxy groups since OCT 7th.

So....NO THEY DONT. Iranian leadership deserves everything they are gonna get and then some.
 
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JohnDB said:
Iran has BEEN the aggressor in the Israel conflicts by proxy groups since OCT 7th.

So....NO THEY DONT. Iranian leadership deserves everything they are gonna get and then some.
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Did I say anything about that, I stated Iran has a right to defend itself.
 
HeIsHere said:
Is that what I stated, no.
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What you stated is that Iran has a right to defend itself. Which means you are defending Iran. Iran lost that right when it became a promoter of terrorism worldwide. The only response to Iran now it to TOTALLY wipe out all the mullahs and ayatollahs, as well as Iran's military and nuclear capability. Iran is a menace which has been fed billions of dollars by the USA to make it even more evil. And the Iranian people are victims of their own evil (and demonic) government.
 
Nehemiah6 said:
What you stated is that Iran has a right to defend itself. Which means you are defending Iran. Iran lost that right when it became a promoter of terrorism worldwide. The only response to Iran now it to TOTALLY wipe out all the mullahs and ayatollahs, as well as Iran's military and nuclear capability. Iran is a menace which has been fed billions of dollars by the USA to make it even more evil. And the Iranian people are victims of their own evil (and demonic) government.
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That would be incorrect I am defending Iran's right to defend itself. This is not that nuanced and not difficult to grasp.

Article 51

Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.

United Nations Charter
 
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Iran cannot make another attack like they did yesterday. They have expended so many munitions that they barely can defend themselves at this point.

So....
If Israel attacks, Iran will ask for the Abrahamic Accords to come into play...
However the Abrahamic Accords were written on flash paper and have already been mostly ignored.
 
HeIsHere said:
That would be incorrect I am defending Iran's right to defend itself. This is not that nuanced and not difficult to grasp.

Article 51

Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.

United Nations Charter
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The UN is an antisemitic nightmare....they have never been correct once. And if you are counting on them to arbitrate this you will not be allowed to post anywhere anymore as you will be dead due to war destroying your home.
 
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Iran's strategy seems simple: shoot a $25,000 drone at Israel that they have to use a $1 million missile to shoot down. Shoot a $200,000 scud missile at Israel that they have to use a $20 million missile to shoot down. Let Israel, the US and Britain spend Billions shooting down missiles, rockets and drones that are costing millions. At some point they will run out of money and then the supersonic missiles of Russia will begin hitting.
 
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JohnDB said:
The UN is an antisemitic nightmare....they have never been correct once. And if you are counting on them to arbitrate this you will not be allowed to post anywhere anymore as you will be dead due to war destroying your home.
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I simply posted the Article 51 which makes no mention of Israel.
 
HeIsHere said:
I simply posted the Article 51 which makes no mention of Israel.
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Not relevant.

The UN has done more to enrich the pockets of a few while causing more conflicts than they avoid.

Just the facts in spite of article 51.
 
JohnDB said:
Not relevant.

The UN has done more to enrich the pockets of a few while causing more conflicts than they avoid.

Just the facts in spite of article 51.
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Your opinion.
I really doubt there are many people would argue that a state/country does not have the right to defend itself.
 
HeIsHere said:
Your opinion.
I really doubt there are many people would argue that a state/country does not have the right to defend itself.
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And exactly what is wrong with spreadsheet logic?

Especially when the nation in question is literally begging to be destroyed.
 
ZNP said:
At some point they will run out of money and then the supersonic missiles of Russia will begin hitting.
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I hope we do not get to this point, but these countries all have war games software they anticipate all the various ways things can play out.
 
JohnDB said:
And exactly what is wrong with spreadsheet logic?

Especially when the nation in question is literally begging to be destroyed.
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I use Excel, sometimes Google Sheets but I have never used for logic.:unsure:
 
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