Who is Babylon in Revelation?

[Pilgrimshope]

That is a possibility based on this verse: And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. (Rev 18:24)

“that the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; from the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭11:50-51‬ ‭KJV‬

“And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judæa flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭21:20-22‬ ‭

Bout 30 years later

“The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Aaron56]

“that the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; from the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭11:50-51‬ ‭KJV‬

“And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judæa flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭21:20-22‬ ‭

Bout 30 years later

“The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Notice Abel is listed as a prophet. Cain was his murderer. This was well before Jerusalem was founded. The Babylon spirit has been in the world since the beginning.

To note: after the fall, when Adam threw Eve under the bus as "The woman you gave me", Eve has the child Cain and declares "God has given me a man!" This was a slight toward Adam. This "man" kills his righteous brother, Abel. In one generation, the fall creates the environment wherein brother murders brother. Furthermore: the murder of Abel was the first murder because of religion (Cain's unrighteous religion vs Abel's righteousness).

The spirit of Babylon always seeks to kill the righteous children of God.

 

[7thMoon]

Notice Abel is listed as a prophet.

I wonder if he predicted Cain's demise.

 

[Aaron56]

I wonder if he predicted Cain's demise.

In the purest form of the position of "prophet", Able knew what the God was doing. This is how he knew to offer the blood of the flock and not the work of his hands.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Notice Abel is listed as a prophet. Cain was his murderer. This was well before Jerusalem was founded. The Babylon spirit has been in the world since the beginning.

To note: after the fall, when Adam threw Eve under the bus as "The woman you gave me", Eve has the child Cain and declares "God has given me a man!" This was a slight toward Adam. This "man" kills his righteous brother, Abel. In one generation, the fall creates the environment wherein brother murders brother. Furthermore: the murder of Abel was the first murder because of religion (Cain's unrighteous religion vs Abel's righteousness).

The spirit of Babylon always seeks to kill the righteous children of God.

that’s interesting read through brother thanks for taking the time

“Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him?

Because his own works were evil,

and his brother's righteous.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:12‬ ‭

remember how they are the fruit of the knowledge of both good and evil then they had a wicked son and a righteous son

air seems as if cains sacrifice was t the problem but his deeds were not good os why God looked upon his sacrifice without respect

“but unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭4:5-8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

some people solve the issues in life with evil because that’s what’s in thier hearts

cain could have repented and did the right things in life and then he and his sacrifice would have been accepted but his deeds were wicked. And Abel’s were righteous so God respected he and his sacrifice.

Good and evil it seems is in tbe world and mankind are the active participants

 

[selahsays]

My understanding is that "Babylon" is a wicked global one-world system rather than a particular city. This system is known as "the great whore" in the book of Revelation, and as it develops in these latter days, we can already see it everywhere we look (Revelation 17:5).

God is calling His people to come out of her.

After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! "For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury." And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. "For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.

- Revelation 18:1-5 (NKJV)

 

[Wansvic]

So how are the people which will be in Jerusalem ransacking the houses and raping the women of Jerusalem on the day of the Lord going to be in Rome ransacking the houses and raping the women on the same day?

Answer the question in #8.

My post was specific to your comment about your thread concerning the king of Babylon smiting the Palestinians. I shared Roman Catholic leaders were guilty of the same.

I indicated in previous posts, Rome is home to Catholicism. I believe it's very possible that the Whore of Babylon is tied to the future one world government. And she, the Roman Catholic leadership, along that coalition of nations will attack Israel prior to the second coming of Jesus.

 

[SomeDisciple]

neither is any city or country on the earth selling slaves, as in the ancient world.

lol

 

[Shilohsfoal]

My post was specific to your comment about your thread concerning the king of Babylon smiting the Palestinians. I shared Roman Catholic leaders were guilty of the same.

I indicated in previous posts, Rome is home to Catholicism. I believe it's very possible that the Whore of Babylon is tied to the future one world government. And she, the Roman Catholic leadership, along that coalition of nations will attack Israel prior to the second coming of Jesus.

No,it's not rome that attacks Babylon.
It's the Medes(aka Iran)
It takes place after the three year drought caused by the two witnesses .

That is when Muslims are instructed to have jihad in the Hadith.Iran wasn't even trying to start anything yesterday. They know it's not time yet for the real thing.

When it's time for the real thing,you will see millions of muslims flood into Israel.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

My post was specific to your comment about your thread concerning the king of Babylon smiting the Palestinians. I shared Roman Catholic leaders were guilty of the same.

I indicated in previous posts, Rome is home to Catholicism. I believe it's very possible that the Whore of Babylon is tied to the future one world government. And she, the Roman Catholic leadership, along that coalition of nations will attack Israel prior to the second coming of Jesus.

The last verse shows you who attacks Babylon.Its not Rome.

Isaiah 13
Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.
13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
14 And it shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land.
15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.
16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.
17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.

 

[Aaron56]

that’s interesting read through brother thanks for taking the time

“Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him?

Because his own works were evil,

and his brother's righteous.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:12‬ ‭

remember how they are the fruit of the knowledge of both good and evil then they had a wicked son and a righteous son

air seems as if cains sacrifice was t the problem but his deeds were not good os why God looked upon his sacrifice without respect

“but unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭4:5-8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

some people solve the issues in life with evil because that’s what’s in thier hearts

cain could have repented and did the right things in life and then he and his sacrifice would have been accepted but his deeds were wicked. And Abel’s were righteous so God respected he and his sacrifice.

Good and evil it seems is in tbe world and mankind are the active participants

“Cain, who was of that wicked one…”

Yeah, he was the child of the devil. Now, of course he was Adam‘s and Eve’s son but, in the perspective of perfection, Cain was the son of the devil. That is to say: from the perspective of the eternal Cain’s father was Satan.

This is the first manifestation of this consequence of sin:

And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed

 

[Pilgrimshope]

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“Cain, who was of that wicked one…”

Yeah, he was the child of the devil. Now, of course he was Adam‘s and Eve’s son but, in the perspective of perfection, Cain was the son of the devil. That is to say: from the perspective of the eternal Cain’s father was Satan.

This is the first manifestation of this consequence of sin:

And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed

Amen brother indeed

“In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:

whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God,

neither he that loveth not his brother.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:10‬ ‭

killing your brother isn’t loving them . Wrote this thing here once when reflecting on the matter of cain and abel cain seems sneaky and subtle like this sort of

remember brother , we were young
together many , songs we sung ?
And from those branches , once we swung
we climbed n’ played we jumped n’ hung ?”

now young brother , come with me
let’s go out to , our willow tree
beyond the field , where none can see
the plans I’ve made , for i and thee.”

“come follow brother , far away
where none can hear , the things we say
when we get there , you can stay
and I’ll slip off , that other way

Behind you brother , noises be
but worry not , it’s only me
young brother wait there , at our tree
that weeping willow , that you see

Now brother rest here , it is wise
we’ve walked so long , and have arrived
soon I’ll return , with your surprise
Sweet brother just , keep shut your eyes

“ Now dear brother , you can see
I’ve plotted plans, to murder ye
to bury you , beneath this tree
this weeping willow , weeps for thee

Now Guilty I am cast away
And nothing have I , words to say
i killed you brother yesterday
Now this curse , my price to pay “

Someday I’ll come , for you to see
There at our tree , we used to be
Brothers there upon that tree
Your weeping willow , haunting me

Forever always haunting me
Young brother abel where you be ,
beyond the field beneath the tree
the one of childhood memories

Zz

“And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper? And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭4:6-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[7thMoon]

In the purest form of the position of "prophet", Able knew what the God was doing. This is how he knew to offer the blood of the flock and not the work of his hands.

He knew more and did more than Cain. The forgiveness of sin is in covenants, and there was no covenant back then.

 

[Slimsumo]

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“And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper? And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭4:6-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I wonder what happened, God doesn't speak to people like Cain anymore. The Lord said unto Cain: I wish every murderer today would hear that

 

[Wansvic]

The last verse shows you who attacks Babylon.Its not Rome.

Isaiah 13
Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.
13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
14 And it shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land.
15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.
16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.
17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.

I apologize I need to correct myself. I said, "the Roman Catholic leadership, along that coalition of nations will attack Israel prior to the second coming of Jesus." When in fact I meant, I believe the pope along with RCC leaders will influence the coalition of nations to battle against Israel.

Zech 14:1-3
"Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle."

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I apologize I need to correct myself. I said, "the Roman Catholic leadership, along that coalition of nations will attack Israel prior to the second coming of Jesus." When in fact I meant, I believe the pope along with RCC leaders will influence the coalition of nations to battle against Israel.

Zech 14:1-3
"Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle."

No,the catholics don't attack Israel.

The Muslims do.
They attack after a three year drought caused by the two witnesses.
As I posted before,it is the Medes(Iran)that attacks Babylon.The Catholic church headed by the Pope will pray for peace as it usually does.
The Muslims want blood.

Iran,Iraq,Syria,Turkey will all be involved.All four being bound in the Euphrates.


Revelation 16
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

 

[Aaron56]

He knew more and did more than Cain. The forgiveness of sin is in covenants, and there was no covenant back then.

You inserted "forgiveness of sin". I did not write that.

However, the acceptable sacrifice was a lamb not grain. This was a shadow for the necessity of the Lamb of God. If Cain had no appropriate lamb to offer he could have traded grain with his brother to gain one. But, righteousness was not in Cain's heart.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I wonder what happened, God doesn't speak to people like Cain anymore. The Lord said unto Cain: I wish every murderer today would hear that

Do you need someone to tell you not to murder ?

Or is it not in you to kill people because you know it’s wrong already ? And your heart and conscience wouldn’t allow it ?


The lord speaks inside of us now through our conscience he’s within us rather than external

 

[Magenta]

Do you need someone to tell you not to murder ?

What if I told you, "If I told you, I'd have to kill you."

 

[Pilgrimshope]

What if I told you, "If I told you, I'd have to kill you."

I would tell you , hold on a minute sister let me find that rock that’s meant to teach you not to kill 😂