How many sins were forgiven by Son on that cross to his Father

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Sure. But not necessarily each time.

Do you believe you have loved every person in your life as Jesus has loved you? Are there any times, do you suppose, that you are unaware that you have not?
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Can you show me in scripture where people are made not aware of sin when they sin ?

Also I think you also find a person will also get convicted for not loving someone.
 
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I'm not under the wrath of God...Romans 8:1.

Jesus was merely pointing out truth. Those to whom He was speaking were asking about others who were killed by a fallen tower. It was the Jewish belief that when someone died or was suffering from some sort of malady, it was because of their sin or the sin of someone connected to them. He was letting them know they also had sinned and were subject to judgment.
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it wasn't just a bout the tower ..

He said this


Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish

I think that is for everyone don't you ?

According to this it's don't think you don't have to repent because somone is a worse sinner.

Also not loving is in that field
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
Can you show me in scripture where people are made not aware of sin when they sin ?

Also I think you also find a person will also get convicted for not loving someone.
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I never said they were made not aware. They are already unaware. For example, you stated in an earlier post that my thinking on a particular topic was delusional. Do you imagine that was loving me the way Jesus loves you?
 
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it wasn't just a bout the tower ..

He said this


Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish

I think that is for everyone don't you ?

According to this it's don't think you don't have to repent because somone is a worse sinner.

Also not loving is in that field
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Do you read what I write? I actually say it isn't about only those killed by the tower, but about them also.
The whole reason He tells them is so they will repent. He's telling them so they change their minds about it.
 
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Do you read what I write? I actually say it isn't about only those killed by the tower, but about them also.
The whole reason He tells them is so they will repent. He's telling them so they change their minds about it.
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Hes telling them so they stop, they've already been told to change there mind when they where told to confess.

The idea that repentance means change your mind isn't right

It's confession that when your told means to change your mind

Confession is conviction of the holy spirit
 
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it wasn't just a bout the tower ..

He said this


Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish

I think that is for everyone don't you ?

According to this it's don't think you don't have to repent because somone is a worse sinner.

Also not loving is in that field
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are you not longer under Judgment once your saved
 
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Cameron143 said:
I'm not under the wrath of God...Romans 8:1.

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are you no longer under Judgement once your saved, or are you in the belief because you where Judged when you where saved that cancels out any future Judgment for you personaly ?
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
Hes telling them so they stop, they've already been told to change there mind when they where told to confess.

The idea that repentance means change your mind isn't right

It's confession that when your told means to change your mind

Confession is conviction of the holy spirit
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We disagree on what the terms mean.
 
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are you no longer under Judgement once your saved, or are you in the belief because you where Judged when you where saved that cancels out any future Judgment for you personaly ?
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There's nothing left to judge. That doesn't mean I won't be chastened of the Lord when I stray.
 
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God gave those who follow Him a roadmap to follow. It's called the Bible. I believe each person who is saved is responsible to know what the Bible claims on every topic. And if one reads, studies, and seeks understanding from God about the Bible they will be given the knowledge they seek. And if anyone reads the Bible they will discover it covers sins under the category of being unforgiven. And they will see how David, in Psalms, dealt with sin in that type of scenario. And we will read how up to the day we die we could have asked for forgiveness of those sins.

So to those who claim to be followers of God but never study the Bible, I don't believe they have any excuses before God. I also don't believe any doctrine promoting there's not a need to ask for forgiveness of unforgiven sins have any excuses before God.

God gives the average follower of Him many chances to read the Bible and educate themselves. I don't believe in doctrines that includes excuses because they promote being a Lazy Believer in God. And I see nowhere in all of the Bible where anyone who followed God with a purpose was ever lazy about it.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
God gave those who follow Him a roadmap to follow. It's called the Bible. I believe each person who is saved is responsible to know what the Bible claims on every topic. And if one reads, studies, and seeks understanding from God about the Bible they will be given the knowledge they seek. And if anyone reads the Bible they will discover it covers sins under the category of being unforgiven. And they will see how David, in Psalms, dealt with sin in that type of scenario. And we will read how up to the day we die we could have asked for forgiveness of those sins.

So to those who claim to be followers of God but never study the Bible, I don't believe they have any excuses before God. I also don't believe any doctrine promoting there's not a need to ask for forgiveness of unforgiven sins have any excuses before God.

God gives the average follower of Him many chances to read the Bible and educate themselves. I don't believe in doctrines that includes excuses because they promote being a Lazy Believer in God. And I see nowhere in all of the Bible where anyone who followed God with a purpose was ever lazy about it.
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according to scripture the word is planted in everyone.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Is the Bible the word of God?
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You know it is.
I'll give you the answer


Confession is God's judgement as well as sorrow.

Repentance is Judgement as well as sorrow.

But what's this also ..

And what's this, repent or you to will perish
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And this

Nevertheless I have this against you, that you have left your first love. Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and remove your lampstand from its place—unless you repent.
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