Why Won't I Vote for Trump?

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Gojira

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It does seem strange to me that after a criminal court finds you "not guilty" a civil court could still find you liable. It seems to me that if OJ is not guilty of killing the two people at Nicole's house that he also should not be held liable for what happened to his ex.
Well, what our justice system failed to do God had dealt with. He's dead. If he repented, then it's been dealt with. If he didn't, it's been dealt with.
 

ZNP

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Yeah we should probably clarify. Trump wasn't found guilty of rape, only sexual abuse.
Yes and Joe Biden wasn't found guilty of sexual abuse, only accused. For whatever reason they never have had a trial.
 
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Gojira

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Yes and Joe Biden wasn't found guilty of sexual abuse, only accused. For whatever reason they never have had a trial.
Soviet-style justice. Or, maybe just third-world.
 

ZNP

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Soviet-style justice. Or, maybe just third-world.
Well you wonder why with all the evidence Biden isn't tried for human trafficking of sex workers, it seems the evidence on that is both public and overwhelming.
 

Cameron143

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It does seem strange to me that after a criminal court finds you "not guilty" a civil court could still find you liable. It seems to me that if OJ is not guilty of killing the two people at Nicole's house that he also should not be held liable for what happened to his ex.
It's strange, but the threshold for guilt in a civil trial is much lower than in a criminal trial.
 
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Gojira

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Well you wonder why with all the evidence Biden isn't tried for human trafficking of sex workers, it seems the evidence on that is both public and overwhelming.
I'm not wondering :D
 

montana123

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People are deceived by Donald Trump and do not understand his true intentions.

It is time for a one world government, and to establish the new age movement in the world replacing the current belief system, and even that of Science.

Which the believe aliens are going to help mankind to have peace, advance, and evolve, which they talk about the return of the gods.

Which the United Nations supports new age organizations, and is with them as well as Science.

Which Science says humans are not from the earth, and the world needs to prepare for an alien encounter.

Science is going to make all things compatible with the new age movement beliefs, and reality.

But they will not mention following them for they want people to believe that all things are coming from them, and say they are having new discoveries, and new findings, that is giving them a new perspective of history, evolution, the Bible, the universe, the conscious, the origins of people, among other things to make all things compatible with the new age movement.

Which the new age movement believes in evolution but they do not believe humans evolved from Apes although they are of the lineage of Apes, but they did not evolve from Apes, and broke off from them about 7 million years ago.

They do not believe in evolution is the Darwinian sense, and they believe people are going to evolve to be spiritual when the New Age Christ starts working in the world.

Science will take that evolutionary position saying new discoveries caused them to have a new perspective of evolution.

They will also embrace the Bible as truth, and want people to embrace the Bible as truth, but they will give forth the new age movement perspective of the Bible saying they have evidence that gives them a new perspective of the Bible, and people have been interpreting the Bible wrong for many years.

The top leaders of the Republicans and Democrats are actually working together towards the new age movement agenda.

Donald Trump was a Democrat but he became a Republican president to increase the fighting between the political parties, and to gain the trust, and support of the Republicans, and to convince them do accept things that are compatible with the changes that are going to be made for they are the most stubborn.

And to make the Republicans look bad.

Joe Biden was put in place to appear incompetent., and to make bad decisions to make the Democrats look bad.

For they are going to do away with both political parties.

America and Russia have been working together the whole time as the 2 opposing forces of the Hegel System.

Which the one world government will be a balance between democracy and communism, and the unified religious system a balance between atheist and spirituality, and their higher power the God of forces, or the power of nature, with all religions interpreted by the new age movement.

Donald Trump is not the person the Republicans believe He is but he is actually trying to deceive them, and wants to be accused of certain behavior, and character, that is not good, for then it reflects on his followers.

They are pointing out a lot about narcissistic personality, and people who do not have empathy for other people, on the internet, with article after article.

This is because the harmonization process has begun to cause the people to stop exalting themselves above other people, and to care for them because the one world government will work for peace on earth.
 

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I watch haystack news and a lot of youtube 😅
so, it seems that haystack news shows different news stories from multiple sources.

so, my guess would be it is from mostly left leaning media, so by default you do watch mainstream media, so there is that...
 

Sculpt

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Cause & Effect:
There are many areas in life where God allows us some choices, to either bless or curse ourselves through natural cause and effect.
A.) You can spend your Saturday at the gym getting healthy, or spend it drinking and smoking... your choice.
B.) You can get up and go to work on time, or go to work late and get fired... your choice.

Choice in Voting:
A.) If God CHOOSES to place us in a society where we have some ability to vote, then God has once again allowed us to bless or curse ourselves, in that domain, through natural cause and effect. If we have this kind of choice, it was God's will to allow it.
B.) God doesn't have to give us this particular choice, many nations through history never had this choice, and God may remove this choice... but for now God has placed us in a society where we have this choice.

Natural Destruction:
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Often in scripture, and through history, God enacts his judgement by merely ALLOWING people to have what they want.
B.) We seem to be in that situation now.
C.) If we want to vote for an evil person, God will use that person to bring the destruction we deserve... and the fact we deserve destruction is proven by the fact we chose an evil leader.
D.) If however we vote for someone good, or even just "less bad", then we reap the natural consequence - we reap the natural "cause and effect" relationship of that choice which God has ALLOWED.

The philosophy of voting isn't complicated, yet we make it so:
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If God places us in a society where we can make certain choices, and we choose evil... then we reap the reward of our evil choices.
B.) If God places us in a society where we can make certain choices, and we choose better... then we reap the reward of our better choices.

Conclusion:
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Sometimes God does give us choices, and he allows us to initiate blessing or cursing by those choices.
2.) You can put your hand in a fire, or put it in your pocket... we all have choices like that.
3.) In societies where GOD ALLOWS US TO VOTE, GOD HAS AFFORDED US CERTAIN CHOICES - so we should be thankful, and wise, and make good use of those choices.

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Hi, Max! Maybe you've already answered this (if so, maybe you can link to it.). Based on this philosophy/theology, assuming you're a US citizen, and the election was today, who would you vote for president and why in general? I know your post here isn't about who to vote for; but your post encourages me to ask you this follow up. Thanks in advance!
 

Dude653

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I don't intend to vote for either Trump or Biden this time around. I guess I'll have to see who else is on the ballot
 

maxwel

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Hi, Max! Maybe you've already answered this (if so, maybe you can link to it.). Based on this philosophy/theology, assuming you're a US citizen, and the election was today, who would you vote for president and why in general? I know your post here isn't about who to vote for; but your post encourages me to ask you this follow up. Thanks in advance!
Hey Sculpt, hope you're doing well.

I am a very conservative Christian, so I vote for whatever candidate has POLICIES that best align with the majority of my values.
At the very least, I'm going to vote for the person who will best preserve our liberties, and thus preserve religious freedom.
I've been open, in other threads, about who I currently support - but what's more important is the philosophy behind it, that Christians think carefully, and pick a candidate for the correct reasons.

I'm not a political activist.
But if we have to live in a place, we should probably take care of that place.

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Gojira

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At the very least, I'm going to vote for the person who will best preserve our liberties, and thus preserve religious freedom.
See? Simple, sound reasoning. It is absolutely amazing to me that this escapes too many believers.
 

Sculpt

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Hey Sculpt, hope you're doing well.

I am a very conservative Christian, so I vote for whatever candidate has POLICIES that best align with the majority of my values.
At the very least, I'm going to vote for the person who will best preserve our liberties, and thus preserve religious freedom.
I've been open, in other threads, about who I currently support - but what's more important is the philosophy behind it, that Christians think carefully, and pick a candidate for the correct reasons.

I'm not a political activist.
But if we have to live in a place, we should probably take care of that place.

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I agree. Regarding our liberties and religious freedom, I believe the foremost liberty that protects all the others is free speech. There's an administration that took part in censorship, well beyond another certain admin. That will way very heavy in my decision.

Based on what you said, I was curious who you'd vote for "today"? I think you can tell I just want to add your opinion to my own information on the issue, as I have to make a decision. If you've been open about it in other threads, knowing my intension, would you tell me or PM me? I understand if you want to keep it secret.

As most, I'm not happy with the two major party candidates, and have voted for "3rd parties" before. We need Rank Order Voting for all our elections. What's your own personal thoughts on voting a 3rd party in this US presidential election considering Rank Order is not yet established?
 

Cameron143

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I agree. Regarding our liberties and religious freedom, I believe the foremost liberty that protects all the others is free speech. There's an administration that took part in censorship, well beyond another certain admin. That will way very heavy in my decision.

Based on what you said, I was curious who you'd vote for "today"? I think you can tell I just want to add your opinion to my own information on the issue, as I have to make a decision. If you've been open about it in other threads, knowing my intension, would you tell me or PM me? I understand if you want to keep it secret.

As most, I'm not happy with the two major party candidates, and have voted for "3rd parties" before. We need Rank Order Voting for all our elections. What's your own personal thoughts on voting a 3rd party in this US presidential election considering Rank Order is not yet established?
The 2nd Amendment is what ensures all the other rights. Take it away and the rest will soon follow.
 

Nehemiah6

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The 2nd Amendment is what ensures all the other rights. Take it away and the rest will soon follow.
Unfortunately at this time in history, no one resembles those who stood against tyranny in the 18th century. As a matter of fact there are more traitors in the USA than patriots. So the 2nd Amendment is doing no one any good. The whole Constitution has been thrown away. Even vandalized.
US Constitution encasement vandalized with red powder at National Archives
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/14/us/constitution-encasement-vandalized-powder-climate/index.html