Is it ok for Christian Men to be in ministry to immodest women?

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Butterflyyy

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I would like to know your thoughts on this or whether it is better for Christian women to do this ministry since the way people dress in these days is so revealing…especially if Christian wives/ girlfriends feel it is unwise for their men to do this….
 

Oncefallen

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Ultimately, women should be ministering to women regardless of their modesty.
 

ResidentAlien

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I would like to know your thoughts on this or whether it is better for Christian women to do this ministry since the way people dress in these days is so revealing…especially if Christian wives/ girlfriends feel it is unwise for their men to do this….
What kind of ministry are we talking about?
 

JohnDB

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Ultimately, women should be ministering to women regardless of their modesty.
And where I do agree with you....
(Give the devil no quarter whatsoever)

I'm wondering if it even matters anymore with all the shenanigans of churches being accepting of blatantly sinful lifestyles. The superfluity of naughtiness is rampant everywhere. People are gonna people regardless of gender.

I'm ultra conservative and don't even mind even all men or all women Sunday School classes instead of Co-ed classes AND Choirs. I'm very comfortable in these situations too.

But it's not all about what I want. Gotta leave room for others to worship and work in the way they feel led to do it.
 

Butterflyyy

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And where I do agree with you....
(Give the devil no quarter whatsoever)

I'm wondering if it even matters anymore with all the shenanigans of churches being accepting of blatantly sinful lifestyles. The superfluity of naughtiness is rampant everywhere. People are gonna people regardless of gender.

I'm ultra conservative and don't even mind even all men or all women Sunday School classes instead of Co-ed classes AND Choirs. I'm very comfortable in these situations too.

But it's not all about what I want. Gotta leave room for others to worship and work in the way they feel led to do it.
I think that is a very good idea what you said about Sunday School and Choir.
I personally am not okay with men giving a lift to women who are immodestly dressed with other people to a Church meeting. and think it ought to be women taking this responsibility. It’s a matter of wise personal boundaries, sober- mindedness and the man having respect for his wife/partner.
 

Butterflyyy

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Sorry if the question seems vague. I hope my last comment clarifies what I mean.
 

Butterflyyy

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Also I’ve heard quite a few times of Male Youth Leaders falling into immorality and/or adultery.
 

Lynx

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Ministry could be anything from serving drinks at a church dinner to praying for somebody or counseling somebody one on one.

Giving somebody a ride, that's a bit more specific. If I was married guy I would definitely want my wife to be in the car with me when I picked up a lady. And my wife would be in the front seat. I would insist on it.
 

JohnDB

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Also I’ve heard quite a few times of Male Youth Leaders falling into immorality and/or adultery.
If only it only was men....
But it isn't anymore.
It's also women leaders who work with children and youth.

And where heterosexual relationships seem to be the majority the number of homosexual physical relationships is growing as LGBTQ is accepted in churches. The number of news articles are horrifying anymore.
 

MsMediator

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Nowadays guys should be numb to immodest clothing. At my last church, there were teenagers who came with bare midriff, very short shorts, tight jeans, etc. Even among the older women, some of them showed a lot of cleavage especially the elderly ones. I don't think it is a big deal if a male ministers to a woman. Sure there is probably a few out of a thousand who may be tempted but most of the time it is fine. The women in church are not looking to seduce.
 

Edify

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I don't think it is a big deal if a male ministers to a woman. Sure there is probably a few out of a thousand who may be tempted but most of the time it is fine. The women in church are not looking to seduce.
Firstly, more men are tempted than you know.
Secondly, It's only proper for a male minister to minister to a female if his wife is with him.
Thirdly, there ARE women in the church looking to seduce men.
Since the Devil is one of the most faithful in church attendance, he will manipulate some woman to do that.
Haven't you ever heard the story of the preacher running off with the piano player?
 
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NEWTOCHRISTIANITY

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Nowadays guys should be numb to immodest clothing. At my last church, there were teenagers who came with bare midriff, very short shorts, tight jeans, etc. Even among the older women, some of them showed a lot of cleavage especially the elderly ones. I don't think it is a big deal if a male ministers to a woman. Sure there is probably a few out of a thousand who may be tempted but most of the time it is fine. The women in church are not looking to seduce.
Sadly, most of we men are weak!
 

JohnDB

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The women in church are not looking to seduce
I as a guy I can testify....
Well let's just say that there's a reason why some of them women wear skirts because they fly up as they land in your lap....

Christian Single Men, who are somewhat serious about their faith, are almost like mythical unicorns...there's almost a stampede when the guy gets older. The women do throw themselves at you until one of them sticks. Hence....no single Christian men.
 

JohnDB

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Secondly, It's only proper for a male minister to minister to a female if his wife is with him.
Nope...insufficient. there's several news stories where she was a participant.
 

DRobinson

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Ultimately, women should be ministering to women regardless of their modesty.
I agree women should be ministering to women, but all involved in ministry should dress and live modestly.
They are to set an example to those not doing so.
 

DRobinson

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In the world we now must live in and minister in, it is not wise to meet one on one with anyone.
That does present a problem some times, but I never do so anymore.