Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"
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Don't. No skin off my nose. I have listened to ALL of those lectures at least 3 times and as many as 5 times each.
Hundreds and hundreds of hours from that particular source alone.
My gold hoard is growing exponentially. Is Jesus pleased? I truly hope so.
Yes.....I may be the "2 talents guy", but God willing I will get an "E" for effort.
Mat 25:22
He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them.
Mat 25:23
His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Don't let this happen to you:
Mat 24:48
But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
Mat 24:50
The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
Mat 24:51
And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 25:26
His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
Mat 25:28
Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
Mat 25:29
For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
Hundreds and hundreds of hours from that particular source alone.
My gold hoard is growing exponentially. Is Jesus pleased? I truly hope so.
Yes.....I may be the "2 talents guy", but God willing I will get an "E" for effort.
Mat 25:22
He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them.
Mat 25:23
His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Don't let this happen to you:
Mat 24:48
But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
Mat 24:50
The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
Mat 24:51
And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 25:26
His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
Mat 25:28
Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
Mat 25:29
For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
God shows Satan each and every time a person comes to Him freely, without compunction, that He is indeed the worthy God who is served, adored and loved freely.
Each time a person is persuaded and believes Satan is diminished and that is why the theology you defend fall shorts, it steals God's glory as though God has to coerce His children.
The big picture is the real story and this is the story of scripture but only lightly presented but there nonetheless
Each time a person is persuaded and believes Satan is diminished and that is why the theology you defend fall shorts, it steals God's glory as though God has to coerce His children.
The big picture is the real story and this is the story of scripture but only lightly presented but there nonetheless
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That sounds nice at first blush, but it doesn't take into account the reality of fallen man. Further, by making man responsible for his own salvation, you actually rob God of glory.
Now where God does get glory in the manner you suggest is exemplified in the story of Job. Job, however, was already the recipient of God's grace and Satan posited that Job only loved God because of all the things God had done for him. God was vindicated of Satan's accusation when Job continued to worship in the deepest of trials.
And your last insinuation that God coerces people has never been a part of any argument I have ever made. In fact, I believe exactly the opposite and have made that plain. When God converts a heart, that heart runs to God, and freely seeks after God. You, and a few others insist differently, but it's disingenuous on your part to assign belief to another they do not hold. You are free to disagree with my understanding, but you are not free to mischaracterize my beliefs. If you continue to do so I'll know you are just another disingenuous poster and dismiss you as such.
Now where God does get glory in the manner you suggest is exemplified in the story of Job. Job, however, was already the recipient of God's grace and Satan posited that Job only loved God because of all the things God had done for him. God was vindicated of Satan's accusation when Job continued to worship in the deepest of trials.
And your last insinuation that God coerces people has never been a part of any argument I have ever made. In fact, I believe exactly the opposite and have made that plain. When God converts a heart, that heart runs to God, and freely seeks after God. You, and a few others insist differently, but it's disingenuous on your part to assign belief to another they do not hold. You are free to disagree with my understanding, but you are not free to mischaracterize my beliefs. If you continue to do so I'll know you are just another disingenuous poster and dismiss you as such.
You completely missed the warning that Paul gave to the Gentiles,
Romans 11:19-21
You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” Quite right,
they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited,
but fear; for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.
I placed the warning in bold so that you won't miss it.
Gentiles can be severed from Christ, fact.
Israel had already been grafted out.
Gentiles only stand by their faith, have you got that?
Romans 11:19-21
You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” Quite right,
they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited,
but fear; for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.
I placed the warning in bold so that you won't miss it.
Gentiles can be severed from Christ, fact.
Israel had already been grafted out.
Gentiles only stand by their faith, have you got that?
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Every person ever saved had the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, OT or NT. Otherwise, they did not belong to Christ...Romans 8:9. This didn't become true in the NT. It was true with Adam. All the promises of God are IN Christ yes, and IN Him amen...2 Corinthians 1:20. Every OT saint was in Christ and was indwelt by the Holy Spirit. The picture of the flood and the ark attests to this. Abraham attests to this...God will provide HIMSELF a lamb...Genesis 22:8.
The entire OT testifies of Christ.
The entire OT testifies of Christ.
You cannot have a relationship with the Father without the Son...John 14:6. And you cannot have Christ without the indwelling Spirit.
Your claim is that all these people had a relationship with God and were seeking Him and obeying Him without Christ. That's what is not correct.
They may have had a form of godliness, but denied it's power. No Spirit...no Christ...no God.
Your claim is that all these people had a relationship with God and were seeking Him and obeying Him without Christ. That's what is not correct.
They may have had a form of godliness, but denied it's power. No Spirit...no Christ...no God.