Since they posted twice about the alcoholic beverages they like I'm guessing that's not what they mean.
Perhaps they're referring to Heineken.
If I drink a beer, will I go to Hell?
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Perhaps they're referring to Heineken.
I couldn't get past Heineken's slogan to ever try one. So, even though I can recognize a nice Heine, you won't catch me ever grabbing one. Sheesh, I am no grabbing no Heine, no way, no how!
But that slogan has likely been pitched long ago to keep up with the woke crowd, and so no one has any idea what I'm talking about.
Of course. there's nothing in the Bible that forbids the ingestion of alcoholic beverages.
There is a good deal that discusses the negative effects of alcohol on personal judgement, situations wherein alcoholic beverages SHOULD NOT be consumed, and warnings about drunkeness.
And if by chance you are one who aren't able to control your use of alcoholic beverages, then you have a "First Commandment" problem.
Alcoholics are worshipping the Alcohol god before the REAL GOD, which is forbidden. ANYTHING THAT IS uncontrollably habitual is wrong for that reason.
I like a good cold beer on a hot day when the job is done, but my coronary, and diabetic medications don't play nice with alcohol.
Going to HELL will be the result of you NOT being Born again of the Holy Spirit, and becoming a Christian.
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That depends on whether or not you're saved. If not, you're going to be spending forever in the Lake of Fire.
Ask an alcoholic who hates his addiction. Then ask him how his addiction got started.
A child born to a full blown alcoholic can already be one, just like a drug addict.
Those who think it's alright... take your cold brew to church at the next pot luck & tell me how that turns out.
BTW, if you can offend a christian drinking one in the church, you can do it outside the church as well.
Romans 14:20 Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats.
That indeed is the slippery slope isn't it?
On 1 hand a beverage is nothing but a beverage.
On the other hand, it could be an offense and stumbling block to another who sees you.
So for the hand where a beverage is just a beverage no harm is being done.
But for the hand where it could be an offense and stumbling block to others, it would have been better had a millstone been thrown on you and you were tossed into the sea.
On the first hand you will not go to eternal damnation.
But on the second hand you might cause many to fall and go to eternal damnation.
No wonder at the end of Solomon's life he wrote in Ecc.. I have seen, done, had, experienced it all and in the end it was nothing but just pure vanity.
for someone who drinks alcohol occasionally, he or she is not responsible for the alcoholic's actions. so if an alcoholic sees someone drinking & falls by the wayside & starts drinking again, it's his or her's fault, not the person they saw drinking. everyone has to be strong in spirit, soul, mind, body & conscious to best help yourself with your problems.
You tell yourself that when Jesus preached about not being an offense and stumbling block to someone else.
You sound like an excuse.
Don't bring your excuses to me. Take them to God. I am only repeating His words.
a person's innocent actions are not responsible for people who can't help themselves & don't even try their best to help themselves. Jesus means do not deliberately try to offend someone who may fall back into alcoholism. & it's not my excuse. you have misunderstood what i said but we all do that once in a while. i do not have nor have i ever had a problem with drinking or anything. even when i was drinking 30 to 40 drinks in 3 to 4 hours time, i didn't have a problem with drinking. i was always a gentleman. & never stammered or staggered. peace to you FollowerofShiloh.
I really wasn't thinking about alcoholics per say. If an alcoholic is trying to keep sober but hangs at places where alcohol is served they are not trying very hard to remain clean. And I don't see the issue having a drink here and there or at dinner when out and about. And if someone wants to down a 6 pack+ I see no issue doing it at home.
I am talking about being known for what you represent in your calling with God.
One should always try their best to keep, because of personal belief, because God's honor is everything, the image of a follower of God to the Standard of Godly living. And when one is in the company of people they know or do not know, others may know them. I meet many people who say aren't you that preacher, or that guy we saw talking about Jesus to this person or some other example they remember me by. But I have no idea who these people are especially to realize they know who I am by my conduct of being a Christian.
It's these people I walk away from thinking, "God, thank you for not letting me have been doing something that could have distorted Your Image of what I should be in You."
This is what my posts in this thread are intending to mean and be saying
Dude. This thread was started by a troll.I really wasn't thinking about alcoholics per say. If an alcoholic is trying to keep sober but hangs at places where alcohol is served they are not trying very hard to remain clean. And I don't see the issue having a drink here and there or at dinner when out and about. And if someone wants to down a 6 pack+ I see no issue doing it at home.
I am talking about being known for what you represent in your calling with God.
One should always try their best to keep, because of personal belief, because God's honor is everything, the image of a follower of God to the Standard of Godly living. And when one is in the company of people they know or do not know, others may know them. I meet many people who say aren't you that preacher, or that guy we saw talking about Jesus to this person or some other example they remember me by. But I have no idea who these people are especially to realize they know who I am by my conduct of being a Christian.
It's these people I walk away from thinking, "God, thank you for not letting me have been doing something that could have distorted Your Image of what I should be in You."
This is what my posts in this thread are intending to mean and be saying
Not even a very energetic troll. He just grabbed a stereotypical hot button topic and threw it out there.
I mean you can post arguments all you want, but it's just feeding the troll in this case.
If you read my first post I have been talking to Everlasting Grace the entire time and only answered Karlon because he quoted me. No one in this thread exists but to whom I am talking to. Not even a troll. Not even you until now because you quoted me.
Then I am so glad I quoted you. I would hate to think I don't exist. =^.^=