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now the forum seems to be the hangout of modern day Calviniasts.
new phenomena? It's interesting to see how some are outright and many have the same theology or major points of it but won't identify with it.
 
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It’s mandatory to have valid sources of information on what is happening in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Also it’s mandatory to remember October 7. For the third it’s mandatory to keep in mind that Israel is surrounded by enemies.

It’s mind boggling how the Hamas government has managed to control the the stream of information from the conflict. No one remembers how this started and no one remembers what Israel is up against every day.

Rhetorically speaking it is a lot of pathos involved, but logos has not been involved so much.
This has been going on since 1948.
What have you been doing all this time with your head in the sand?
This didn't start oct 7th.Ive been reading about these children being killed for decades.

I understand why the ten horns hate the prostitute so badly and I understand why God gives her over to be destroyed by her enemies .

All you people who support her can't see any wrong in her actions ,nor have you been paying attention to her decline.Jerusalem is full of murderers.

Isaiah 1:21
See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers



Well,at least after she is destroyed,God will set up a righteous king and he will reign forever.But untill then we watch as jerusalem descends into the abyss.

I highlighted the valid source of information but I have no doubt you won't believe it.No one supporting the prostitute could believe she is the prostitute.
 

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This has been going on since 1948.
What have you been doing all this time with your head in the sand?
This didn't start oct 7th.Ive been reading about these children being killed for decades.

I understand why the ten horns hate the prostitute so badly and I understand why God gives her over to be destroyed by her enemies .

All you people who support her can't see any wrong in her actions ,nor have you been paying attention to her decline.Jerusalem is full of murderers.

Isaiah 1:21
See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers



Well,at least after she is destroyed,God will set up a righteous king and he will reign forever.But untill then we watch as jerusalem descends into the abyss.

I highlighted the valid source of information but I have no doubt you won't believe it.No one supporting the prostitute could believe she is the prostitute.
It is a counterfeit, but I still appreciate your posts because you obviously can see.
 

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Chad Pergram

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1) House sources are expecting Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL) to force a vote to hold Attorney General Merrick Garland in “inherent contempt” of Congress sometime in the middle of next week. Fox is told the vote likely comes Wednesday or Thursday.

What is “inherent contempt?” It’s similar to “contempt” of Congress – in which the House voted to hold Garland earlier this month for failing to respond to a subpoena to provide audiotapes of the interview Special Counsel Robert Hur conducted with President Biden about the classified documents case.

But “inherent contempt” is a dramatic and historic escalation. The House has not held anyone in inherent contempt since the 1930s. Prior to that, you must go back to the early 1800s and 1790s. Yes. That’s correct.

With “inherent contempt,” the House approves the resolution – and doesn’t rely on the Justice Department to prosecute the contempt of Congress case. In this case, the House deploys its “inherent” powers and dispatches House Sergeant at Arms Bill McFarland and his team to “arrest” Garland. Ostensibly, Garland could be held BY CONGRESS (read that again) until he provides the audiotapes. Such a scenario creates an extraordinary conflict between the legislative branch of government and the executive branch. Keep in mind that Garland is protected by armed FBI agents. Does this create some sort of a standoff? Unclear. And no one seems to know on Capitol Hill.
 

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This has been going on since 1948.
What have you been doing all this time with your head in the sand?
This didn't start oct 7th.Ive been reading about these children being killed for decades.

I understand why the ten horns hate the prostitute so badly and I understand why God gives her over to be destroyed by her enemies .

All you people who support her can't see any wrong in her actions ,nor have you been paying attention to her decline.Jerusalem is full of murderers.

Isaiah 1:21
See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers



Well,at least after she is destroyed,God will set up a righteous king and he will reign forever.But untill then we watch as jerusalem descends into the abyss.

I highlighted the valid source of information but I have no doubt you won't believe it.No one supporting the prostitute could believe she is the prostitute.
So you think that Jesus is coming to destroy the nation Israel do you?
Well.....you had better hope that you are not around to find out how wrong you are.
 
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It is a counterfeit, but I still appreciate your posts because you obviously can see.
No,Jerusalem is the real deal.

Have you ever noticed that the nations which attack Babylon ,on the day of the Lord in one book,attack Jerusalem on the day of the Lord on a different book?

Also ,the Lord goes and fights against those nations that attack Jerusalem on the day of the Lord wherein he overcomes the nations that attack Babylon in revelation?


Isaiah 1:21
See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers



Jerusalem is that city that sits on seven hills.
 
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So you think that Jesus is coming to destroy the nation Israel do you?
Well.....you had better hope that you are not around to find out how wrong you are.

God didn't say he will send Jesus to destroy Israel.
He said he will cause the nations to rise up and destroy Israel much like the Romans did.It will be worse this time.

The only people in Israel to be saved are the Israelis who follow the Lamb.But before Christ comes,the unbelieving Jews will persecute Jesus followers in Israel as scripture shows.

Jews hate Messianic Jews because of Jesus.
 

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No,Jerusalem is the real deal.

Have you ever noticed that the nations which attack Babylon ,on the day of the Lord in one book,attack Jerusalem on the day of the Lord on a different book?

Also ,the Lord goes and fights against those nations that attack Jerusalem on the day of the Lord wherein he overcomes the nations that attack Babylon in revelation?


Isaiah 1:21
See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers



Jerusalem is that city that sits on seven hills.
Agree completely, just a different time period.
 

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God didn't say he will send Jesus to destroy Israel.
He said he will cause the nations to rise up and destroy Israel much like the Romans did.It will be worse this time.

The only people in Israel to be saved are the Israelis who follow the Lamb.But before Christ comes,the unbelieving Jews will persecute Jesus followers in Israel as scripture shows.

Jews hate Messianic Jews because of Jesus.
It was horrific the first time and that is the one in scripture.

Right now Israel is destroying itself.
No one has to rise up against it.
 
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Agree completely, just a different time period.
As of now ,we are in the time period of the prostitute.After the prostitute is destroyed,we will be in the time period of a faithful city.


Isaiah 1
26 And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.

27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.




This time period is during the millennial reign.After Christ comes.
 
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It was horrific the first time and that is the one in scripture.

Right now Israel is destroying itself.
No one has to rise up against it.

The ten horns who hate the prostitute will give their power to the beast from.the abyss and it shall attack and conquer Jerusalem killing the two witnesses.There will be celebrations throughout the middle east and in Jerusalem.

Then the end comes.
 

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As of now ,we are in the time period of the prostitute.After the prostitute is destroyed,we will be in the time period of a faithful city.


Isaiah 1
26 And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.

27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.




This time period is during the millennial reign.After Christ comes.
She was destroyed in the first century when Christ Jesus ended one age and ushered in the Messianic Age.
 

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The ten horns who hate the prostitute will give their power to the beast from.the abyss and it shall attack and conquer Jerusalem killing the two witnesses.There will be celebrations throughout the middle east and in Jerusalem.

Then the end comes.

The end of the pre-Messianic age already happened. :)
 
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Current time period

Isaiah 1:21
See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers





Future time period

Isaiah 1:26-27
26 And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.

27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.
 

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God didn't say he will send Jesus to destroy Israel.
He said he will cause the nations to rise up and destroy Israel much like the Romans did.It will be worse this time.

The only people in Israel to be saved are the Israelis who follow the Lamb.But before Christ comes,the unbelieving Jews will persecute Jesus followers in Israel as scripture shows.

Jews hate Messianic Jews because of Jesus.
You fail to understand that it is the NATION Israel that will finally enter into the wedding supper/millennial reign via the New Covenant.

How? National corporate repentance. Thats how.
And then of course, the believing REMNANT of nation Israel will be RECOMISSIONED to undertake the task they formerly abandoned:
To SERVE God as priests to the gentile world. The gentile remnant who survive thru the tribulation.

Hos 5:14
For I will be unto Ephraim as a lion, and as a young lion to the house of Judah: I, even I, will tear and go away; I will take away, and none shall rescue him.
Hos 5:15
I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.

Hos 6:1
Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
Hos 6:2
After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/zec/12/10/s_923010

Zec 12:9
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:10
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Zec 12:11
In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
Zec 12:12
And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
Zec 12:13
The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;
Zec 12:14

All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.
 
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You fail to understand that it is the NATION Israel that will finally enter into the wedding supper/millennial reign via the New Covenant.

How? National corporate repentance. Thats how.
And then of course, the believing REMNANT of nation Israel will be RECOMISSIONED to undertake the task they formerly abandoned:
To SERVE God as priests to the gentile world. The gentile remnant who survive thru the tribulation.

Hos 5:14
For I will be unto Ephraim as a lion, and as a young lion to the house of Judah: I, even I, will tear and go away; I will take away, and none shall rescue him.
Hos 5:15
I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.

Hos 6:1
Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
Hos 6:2
After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/zec/12/10/s_923010

Zec 12:9
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:10
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Zec 12:11
In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
Zec 12:12
And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
Zec 12:13
The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;
Zec 12:14

All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.
I've not failed to see who the 144,000 redeemed of Israel .
That is 2 percent of Israel population .

That 2 percent is the remnant who are sealed with the name of God in their foreheads.

,98 percent is not saved.They are destroyed.