…but some may not know the basics yet because they’re just starting out on this wonderful journey.
The deity of Jesus Christ
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Can you not see that since that verse says that "God is all and in all", and another verse says that God is "the Head" of Christ, that the question of "lowering His position" does not arise?
The way the triune Godhead is revealed is that even though all are equally God, the Son and the Holy Spirit have the Father as their "Head" (authority over them). So you could apply the term "subordinate" ( meaning lower in position).
Since it is the Father who handed the risen Christ all power and authority in Heaven and on earth until He establishes the real, visible, tangible, physical and spiritual Kingdom of God on earth, the Son RIGHTFULLY hands back everything to God the Father.
Let none of us mortals presume that we can "figure out" the Godhead. All that I have said above has been already revealed in Scripture. But I cannot go any further, as none of us can.
Jesus thought it not robbery to be equal with God. was not under or over, equal with Father, for us top gather together and be made one with them as won for us
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Sorry, no offense meant, yet I am seeing you being stubborn, what is up With that?
I would say yes, why
Matthew 26:39
And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Should I laugh at this question or cry? Kindly read your Bible and discover the truth about God, and the Father, and Christ.
Here on CC, denying the Deity of Christ is the number one theological heresy that is a bannable offense.
Numerous members have been ousted due to defending such a view, even knowing it is not tolerated.
No offense taken, I wasn’t really referring to your posts. It’s just a basic topic that we all know and are confident in and don’t need to go into all the ins and outs of this topic. At some point it’s throwing your pearls before swine. Yes, we can go into a long drawn out perfectly constructed reply with loads of scripture, translations, manuscript history, use our thesaurus for better sounding words, try and hear God on just the right argument, blah blah, blah. But these posters questioning could care less, then it’s pointless.
Okay.. well that is good to know. It must be people who come in who eventually get found out. I do see that those posters I thought were messianic jews denying His deity aren't posting much or anything anymore.
“And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”
Revelation 1:17-18 KJV
“….until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of Lords; who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.”
1 Timothy 6:14-16 KJV
Your answer is correct.
Perhaps @Nehemiah6 could explain why answering “yes” to my question is “problematic.”
flesh is problematic. No flesh to this day ever since the first Adam ate from the tree of knowledge, death came to all flesh ever since. Unless one repents to God between God and themselves personally, even if do it publicly, if it is not true between God and you, then it is of no use, but to get praise from others here on earth. That being the only reward ever
Romans 8:1-3
The Bible clearly presents the one true God -- the Lord God Almighty. And the triune Godhead consists of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
While on earth, Jesus referred to God the Father as "my God" a few times, which is true. And He is the one who sent the Son to earth. The Father is "the Head" or authority over the Son. But that does not make the Son less than God. Indeed, the Father declares the Son to be God (see Hebrews 1).
So the issue of whether Christ deemed His God to be the one true God does not even arise.
The NIV should have kept "Godhead" in that verse. The lexicons also show "deity" for theotes, but then also revert to "Godhead". The real issue is to leave Bible words alone when they are already in common use.
That's like using "Messiah" for "Christ" (in some modern versions) when the whole world knows of Christ. And in the Greek text it is not even "Messiah". It is "Christos" or "Christ" in English.
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Maybe you should have clarified the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit dwelt in Jesus