The deity of Jesus Christ

[Nehemiah6]

Maybe you should have clarified the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit dwelt in Jesus

But that is not how the Bible presents the Godhead. Each one is a distinct divine Person.

 

[wattie]

But that is not how the Bible presents the Godhead. Each one is a distinct divine Person.

Funny thing that.. many who deny the Trinity will say Jesus is the one person with the Father and Holy Spirit in Him.

They think that is not a Trinity..but that is still one triune God! That's still a Trinity! Three in one.

The Trinity isn't claiming 3 separate gods or beings. It's one being expressed in three persona

 

[CS1]

Not long ago, there were a number of posters on here that were lowering Jesus' deity, below the Father.

I think some were Jewish who thought they had accepted Jesus as the Messiah, but actually made Him somehow a lesser God than the Father.

Anyway, I wanted to address when Jesus says the Father is 'greater than I'

After saying this, later on He ascends to be with the Father. Their position is now equal. And their power, and their omnipresence etc..

So.. what was happening when Jesus said the Father is greater?

He was talking about position, not a superior being.

If I say the King of England is greater than me, he isn't a superior being. We are both equally human. But he had a greater position as king.

Jesus willfully emptied himself to become as we are yet without sin that makes him God.

 

[Burn1986]

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[Nehemiah6]

Jesus willfully emptied himself to become as we are yet without sin that makes him God.

Actually the KJB has it right. He made Himself of no reputation. Thayer's Lexicon has this comment: 1. to empty, make empty: ἑαυτόν ἐκένωσε, namely, τοῦ εἶναι ἴσα Θεῷ or τῆς μορφῆς τοῦ Θεοῦ, i. e. he laid aside equality with or the form of God (said of Christ)...

Jesus remained fully God and fully sinless Man, but He left behind His glory and majesty, and took the form of a Servant. Yet His glory shone through. Aa John says -- ... and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

 

[CS1]

Actually the KJB has it right. He made Himself of no reputation. Thayer's Lexicon has this comment: 1. to empty, make empty: ἑαυτόν ἐκένωσε, namely, τοῦ εἶναι ἴσα Θεῷ or τῆς μορφῆς τοῦ Θεοῦ, i. e. he laid aside equality with or the form of God (said of Christ)...

Jesus remained fully God and fully sinless Man, but He left behind His glory and majesty, and took the form of a Servant. Yet His glory shone through. Aa John says -- ... and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

Kenosis, do you hold to that doctrine or agree with it?

 

[Nehemiah6]

Kenosis, do you hold to that doctrine or agree with it?

I do not agree with it. Christ set aside His majesty and glory. But we know that He retained His divine power to do miracles and to forgive sins. At the same time He was in total subjection to the will of God the Father.

 

[homwardbound]

But that is not how the Bible presents the Godhead. Each one is a distinct divine Person.

I thought God, is Spirit, Jesus is the flesh, The Holy Spirit iso God Father himself that led Jesus, Jesus followed
John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
John 3:8
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

I am not able to worship God Father, and Jesus the one and only perfect Son, of my first born flesh, at least me I am not.

Yes, distinct roles, Like water has steam and ice, all water

 

[Nehemiah6]

I thought God, is Spirit, Jesus is the flesh, The Holy Spirit iso God Father himself that led Jesus, Jesus followed

I'm sorry but you are quite mistaken. One of the clearest examples of three distinct divine persons is found at the baptism of Jesus. God the Son is baptized, God the Holy Spirit (who is Spirit) takes the form of a dove and alights on Him, and God the Father speaks from Heaven.

And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. (Matthew 3:16,17)

Also, we have 1 John 5:7 (KJB): For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. [Note: "the Word" is none other than Jesus, see John chapter 1]

So you will need to revise your thoughts. We worship the triune Godhead.

 

[homwardbound]

I'm sorry but you are quite mistaken. One of the clearest examples of three distinct divine persons is found at the baptism of Jesus. God the Son is baptized, God the Holy Spirit (who is Spirit) takes the form of a dove and alights on Him, and God the Father speaks from Heaven.

And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. (Matthew 3:16,17)

Also, we have 1 John 5:7 (KJB): For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. [Note: "the Word" is none other than Jesus, see John chapter 1]

So you will need to revise your thoughts. We worship the triune Godhead.

I agree with he trinity, as water. ice and steam are all water. As an Egg has three parts, a shell, white and yoke, all three makes one egg. Even as the body has a body, Soul and Spirit, which Spirit is leading us, if the Question to being saved by God or not, at least to me
I never said we do not worship the triune God. or that I do not worship God as triune, yet is one God
Body, = Jesus, God Father is Spirit and Truth John 4:23-24
Jesus was once known in the body

Romans 6:9
Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
2 Corinthians 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

No flesh pleases Father today, after the only flesh (Jesus) did what this for us the people and is risen for us to believe and be born new by God Father of the risen Son in Spirit and Truth