Tonight's Presidential Debate

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ZNP

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It may be much simpler than that.
It may be that the Dims really are truly delusional, and had thought that it was The Great and Powerful Oz on the podium, when in fact it was an impotent, feeble, prevaricating and addled Oscar Zoroaster Phadrig Isaac Norman Henkle Emmannuel Ambroise Diggs.
I watched a youtube video interview people who supported Biden after the debate. In virtually every case they said they would continue to support him despite agreeing that he falls on a spectrum of dementia (some thinking it doesn't prevent him from doing the job all the way to those who don't care and know that someone else is doing the job). We should never assume that your opponent is stupid. No doubt both sides have a few stupid people, but the truth is they know he has dementia and they don't care. Look at this thread, all these attacks on Trump, is anyone defending or promoting Biden? No, as far as they are concerned anyone but Trump, they don't care if the person has dementia or not.
 

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You have to admit, despite all of his flaws, Trump is quite the disarming, down-to-earth and homespun character.
What you see is what you get. Probably a good thing in this age of deceit.
Yep, just like George W. Bush, the aw shucks guy from Yale and the Skull and Bones.
 

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Yep, just like George W. Bush, the aw shucks guy from Yale and the Skull and Bones.
Fortunately, there is little reason to believe that Trump is an inside "made man".
Which ultimately is the reason that they want to bump him off.
 

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I watched a youtube video interview people who supported Biden after the debate. In virtually every case they said they would continue to support him despite agreeing that he falls on a spectrum of dementia (some thinking it doesn't prevent him from doing the job all the way to those who don't care and know that someone else is doing the job). We should never assume that your opponent is stupid. No doubt both sides have a few stupid people, but the truth is they know he has dementia and they don't care. Look at this thread, all these attacks on Trump, is anyone defending or promoting Biden? No, as far as they are concerned anyone but Trump, they don't care if the person has dementia or not.

I noticed that there's no one defending Biden myself, let them deal with their own candidate. As for the internal war among Republicans, which is what I see happening, I don't think replacing Trump with a Republican with dementia being considered by anyone.
 

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The biggest question that must be answered first, before any other, is why would Trump agree to this debate?

1. We all know and Trump knew that this is what Biden would be like, anyone feigning surprise now is just a liar. So the reaction from NY Times and CNN and Obama cabinet members is all performative, there is no "surprise". This was planned so they would have an excuse to get rid of him. So why would Trump agree to make it easy for them to do this prior to the DNC?

2. They are claiming that this is because Trump is a patriot, did it for the good of the country. I think that is baloney. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Trump is not a patriot nor am I saying that you can't argue this is for the good of the country. What I am saying is baloney is that Trump gets to make these decisions. You don't get to run a Presidential campaign spending upwards of $500 million and get to make decisions like this privately. No way Trump runs for president if he isn't backed by many powerful and influential forces. Why did the handlers agree to this? Don't tell me they did it for the "good of the country" that is how they lose their jobs. They had better have been doing it for the good of the campaign.

Obviously Trump had this win in the bag, all he had to do was wait until after the DNC, then have a debate and let all this chaos an panic play out in August. This tells me that "the good of the campaign" is not what I am thinking. The point of the campaign is to divide the country in half and let everyone focus on it and fight it out and debate about it. That was not going to happen with Biden. Getting rid of Biden and replacing him with Newsom and Obama is "for the good of the campaign" if the purpose of the campaign is to get people fighting with each other and keep the country divided 49/49.

This is the black and white squares of the FreeMason temple.

The puppet masters will throw Fauci to the wolves, they will throw Biden and his administration to the wolves, anything to keep power.

This tells me it is full speed ahead with the mark of the beast, destroying the US dollar, bringing in one world government and one world religion. Trump's campaign agreed to the debate so that they could keep this charade going until November.
Yeah, it almost seems as if Trump is on it. He has to know Biden will be replaced and he can't beat the next in line puppet.
 

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Yeah, it almost seems as if Trump is on it. He has to know Biden will be replaced and he can't beat the next in line puppet.

The D's just needed to see for themselves why they need to change him out so they showed them why so their all on board when they do.
 

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You have to admit, despite all of his flaws, Trump is quite the disarming, down-to-earth and homespun character.
What you see is what you get. Probably a good thing in this age of deceit.
Well indeed, and really that's just part of his caricature. Trump's bluntness is what makes him a strong character indeed especially sticking out due to the age of deceit as you put it well, but it is also often his weakness and fair enough fodder for the press and his enemies and the grifters trying to cap off his name, but that in turn it still is what makes him a character really. Trump plays it very well too, Trump is a natural leader and most leadership types are quite the characters really, they just kinda have to be.
 

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Well indeed, and really that's just part of his caricature. Trump's bluntness is what makes him a strong character indeed especially sticking out due to the age of deceit as you put it well, but it is also often his weakness and fair enough fodder for the press and his enemies and the grifters trying to cap off his name, but that in turn it still is what makes him a character really. Trump plays it very well too, Trump is a natural leader and most leadership types are quite the characters really, they just kinda have to be.

I'll post the same article again from my former post but unlike us in the US looking at Biden's age only they are also sifting thru Trumps past rallies and discussing his age(3.5 years younger than Biden) and wondering if that will repeat itself in 2027-28... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjr4dd50yk2o
 

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The D's just needed to see for themselves why they need to change him out so they showed them why so their all on board when they do.
Anyone not suffering from Leftist delusion and lies could have seen from Jan 6 that Biden was TOTALLY UNFIT for this office, especially since he stole it. That was fraud and criminal. These Leftists will never admit the truth regardless of how obvious it is. But now the whole world has seen this rogue "president" and his feeble and confused condition.
 

ZNP

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You say 81 million voted for Biden In 2020 ,How many people voted for Donald Trump?Give me a number.
It is hard to know, it is perplexing.

Facebook censored one of my posts because in the video that I shared it said the people were pulling “suitcases filled with ballots” out from under this table where they had been hidden all day to then count them while no one watched. According to Facebook they weren’t suitcases they were “boxes”. OK, but they appeared to have wheels on them so these were really nice boxes. But the story was not about suitcases, it was about hidden ballots being counted when no one is looking. The mainstream media declared victory in certain states when it didn’t make sense and didn’t declare victory in others when it also didn’t make sense. It was perplexing. Also, they stopped counting when it looked like Trump had won and then early in the morning when they had stopped counting all of a sudden they discovered hundreds of thousands of votes for Biden. It was perplexing. They said the machines were not hooked up to the internet and then when their was a problem with a machine at one of the polling places the guy from Dominion fixed it remotely, it was perplexing. Detroit which usually does not have great turnout for elections had 100% turnout, it was perplexing.
 

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ZNP

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How about "it was disgusting"? Even under-developed countries do not have such election fraud.
In one state they had 17,000 more votes than ballots, it is perplexing.
 

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And who should come up with this nonsense other than lyin' BBC? The MSM have become a serious part of the problem everywhere.
No the Chinese are who were sifting thru Trumps speeches and counting the times in the article.
 

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I'll post the same article again from my former post but unlike us in the US looking at Biden's age only they are also sifting thru Trumps past rallies and discussing his age(3.5 years younger than Biden) and wondering if that will repeat itself in 2027-28... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjr4dd50yk2o
I read it and saw other world reactions. It tells me basically Trump is correct in his perception of the foreign policy situation and that not only will he be able to restore America domestically, but he will bring back order to this world where all the most evil and despotic of nations and dictators have been running rampant for the past four years taking advantage of the turmoil and weakness of America that Biden both caused and very literally embodies. I mean these were Trump's very most solid points in the debate and I think show Trump's true motives running again. I think he does actually believe America has been brought to a dangerous and embarassing point on the world stage and he rightly understands the geopolitical situation and has a grounded record to actually restore America's position on the world stage.
 

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Anyone not suffering from Leftist delusion and lies could have seen from Jan 6 that Biden was TOTALLY UNFIT for this office, especially since he stole it. That was fraud and criminal. These Leftists will never admit the truth regardless of how obvious it is. But now the whole world has seen this rogue "president" and his feeble and confused condition.

At some point we just have to let the left deal with their own garbage and focus on our own(the left this the left that isn't the go to answer anymore)... It just makes us feel good.
 

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I read it and saw other world reactions. It tells me basically Trump is correct in his perception of the foreign policy situation and that not only will he be able to restore America domestically, but he will bring back order to this world where all the most evil and despotic of nations and dictators have been running rampant for the past four years taking advantage of the turmoil and weakness of America that Biden both caused and very literally embodies. I mean these were Trump's very most solid points in the debate and I think show Trump's true motives running again. I think he does actually believe America has been brought to a dangerous and embarassing point on the world stage and he rightly understands the geopolitical situation and has a grounded record to actually restore America's position on the world stage.
In the debate he was saying that he hadn't planned to run again but did to fix these things. So were you already decided to vote for him or did this change your mind? (curious if he gained a vote or if he already had yours).
 

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At some point we just have to let the left deal with their own garbage and focus on our own(the left this the left that isn't the go to answer anymore)... It just makes us feel good.
We say the Left is delusional. But it appears the Left did the right thing by exposing Biden now so they can switch him out for someone the women and 30 and under crowd will vote in. It looks more like that the Right are the ones who are delusional. The Left played the Right and if they switch they will win and the Right seems to have not seen it coming at all.