1,300+ Muslims Raptured During the Hajj Pilgrimage

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KegOfCorona

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Did you guys hear how over 1,300 Muslims died from heat exhaustion on their way to Hajj, Saudi Arabia?
Was this selecting some true believers amongst Islam to be raptured? Why would God kill them? I heard in Islam, each person has 7 angels. In Christianity each person has about 100 angels (i think, i forgot the exact number) and I read the whole Quran (just so you know, there is NO search engine for the Quran). There may be websites, but they are not legitimate sources of the correct translations.
To know the Quran, you must know Arabic. That's why up until 9/11, there were almost zero translations of the Quran in English.
Now, there are dozens. True. Fact. Sorry, but I've read the entire real deal Quran, and I know how it admits that Jews have over 2000 angels. Hmmm, why would they say that, if it's not true?
 
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KegOfCorona said:
Did you guys hear how over 1,300 Muslims died from heat exhaustion on their way to Hajj, Saudi Arabia?
Was this selecting some true believers amongst Islam to be raptured? Why would God kill them? I heard in Islam, each person has 7 angels. In Christianity each person has about 100 angels (i think, i forgot the exact number) and I read the whole Quran (just so you know, there is NO search engine for the Quran). There may be websites, but they are not legitimate sources of the correct translations.
To know the Quran, you must know Arabic. That's why up until 9/11, there were almost zero translations of the Quran in English.
Now, there are dozens. True. Fact. Sorry, but I've read the entire real deal Quran, and I know how it admits that Jews have over 2000 angels. Hmmm, why would they say that, if it's not true?
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No rapture, they died like years before. Because of the heat, or panic, or something else. The Quran is not from God. So what is standing there it is a lie, so far it not fits what the bible says.
And there are a lot of teachings and nonsense about angels in the world. For me it depends is what the bible says. And in this point Its not much revealed. So it is not realy important for us to know.
 
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wolfwint said:
No rapture, they died like years before. Because of the heat, or panic, or something else. The Quran is not from God. So what is standing there it is a lie, so far it not fits what the bible says.
And there are a lot of teachings and nonsense about angels in the world. For me it depends is what the bible says. And in this point Its not much revealed. So it is not realy important for us to know.
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Agreed, the Quran is mostly an imposter. However I would consider it an interesting piece of literature. Particularly the story of Elizabeth and Mary (John the Baptist and Jesus' mothers). Also, I enjoyed the book of Ants. lol.
 
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I haven't read the Koran but from what i've gathered by speaking to Muslims is that it seems like a bad copy/paste of the Bible.
It's a shame because the Muslims used to be the enlightened ones in astrology, mathematics and philosophy during Europe's dark ages.
Now they've gone back 1000 years.
 
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The Rapture does not apply to unbelieving Muslims. So where did you get this idea?
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I'm just throwing the idea out there. Maybe that's what the rapture will be like, instead of people "floating into the sky" like some sort of tractor beam? Which is more realistic? I've heard other people wonder this too. What if the idea of a "rapture" isn't necessarily a good thing. To "snatch" believers from the earth sounds like what we saw in Hajj.
 
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What if the idea of a "rapture" isn't necessarily a good thing. To "snatch" believers from the earth sounds like what we saw in Hajj.
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Are you in the habit of presenting rubbish to Christians? The Resurrection/Rapture is an essential Bible doctrine, so chances are you do not even know the Gospel or believe it.
 
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Seriously? Like you know me? I've been a BORN AGAIN Christian since 2003.
However, I may consider the Quran a sacred text. As Muslims consider the Old Testament and New Testament a sacred text also.
I do not cause division like most Christians. I try to find common ground, which fosters peace, instead of discord.
 
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KegOfCorona said:
Agreed, the Quran is mostly an imposter. However I would consider it an interesting piece of literature. Particularly the story of Elizabeth and Mary (John the Baptist and Jesus' mothers). Also, I enjoyed the book of Ants. lol.
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It is an develish book and I cant understand that people see even an interesting piece of literature in it.
 
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KegOfCorona said:
Seriously? Like you know me? I've been a BORN AGAIN Christian since 2003.
However, I may consider the Quran a sacred text. As Muslims consider the Old Testament and New Testament a sacred text also.
I do not cause division like most Christians. I try to find common ground, which fosters peace, instead of discord.
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Sorry, how you can equal an book which is given fro Satan with the word of God?
And call it Sacred?
There is no common ground.
Except, you deny the word of God.
As many do today and believe the God of the bible and the God of the Koran are the same.
 
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KegOfCorona said:
However, I may consider the Quran a sacred text.
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Since the Quran was "inspired" by Satan, you certainly lack any discernment. Satan claims to be "Allah" and rejects everything in the Gospels. And Allah is actually the moon god, still worshipped at the Ka'aba (which the Quran claims was erected by Abraham and Ishmael!

At the same time he perverted the Old Testament to suit the Muslims. Evidently the angel Jibril (Gabriel) brought Mohammad this piece of literature. But that would be false. Gabriel is a holy angel, while the devil is an evil angel.
 
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Brainwashed christians, did you know that the angel Gabriel is only written about in the Quran regarding the birth of Jesus? There is a lot of common ground. But most christians believe in what their pastors tell them. "Allah" simply means "The God." It is a derivative of "Elohim" which is in the Old Testament.
 
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KegOfCorona said:
Brainwashed christians, did you know that the angel Gabriel is only written about in the Quran regarding the birth of Jesus? There is a lot of common ground. But most christians believe in what their pastors tell them. "Allah" simply means "The God." It is a derivative of "Elohim" which is in the Old Testament.
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Yes, i know about what 'Allah" means but what's your point here?
That some Christians don't know what "Allah" means? Or something else?
 
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1cor10:

20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
 
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KegOfCorona said:
Brainwashed christians, did you know that the angel Gabriel is only written about in the Quran regarding the birth of Jesus? There is a lot of common ground. But most christians believe in what their pastors tell them. "Allah" simply means "The God." It is a derivative of "Elohim" which is in the Old Testament.
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There is one thing, why Islam and Christians have nothing common.
It has to with Jesus.
✝ 1 John 2:22

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."

Bible
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✝ 1 John 2:23

"Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: but he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."

Bible
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What says the koran about Jesus? He is not Gods son. He was a prophet. Right?

So everybody who denys that Jesus is the messajah is a liar. And who denyes that Jesus is Gods son. Has God not, too.

So how can you claim that the koran is from God?
God sent the angel Gabriel nearly 700 years later to Mohammed for to tell him that Jesus is not Gods son, but an prophet?

The word Allah means God. But when an Muslim speaks to Allah he means someone different then an Christian.

How can a Religion which denyes that Jesus is Gods son come from God?
This Religion has nothing common with God!
 
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wolfwint said:
There is one thing, why Islam and Christians have nothing common.
It has to with Jesus.
✝ 1 John 2:22

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."

Bible
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kjv.BIBLE


✝ 1 John 2:23

"Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: but he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."

Bible
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kjv.BIBLE

What says the koran about Jesus? He is not Gods son. He was a prophet. Right?

So everybody who denys that Jesus is the messajah is a liar. And who denyes that Jesus is Gods son. Has God not, too.

So how can you claim that the koran is from God?
God sent the angel Gabriel nearly 700 years later to Mohammed for to tell him that Jesus is not Gods son, but an prophet?

The word Allah means God. But when an Muslim speaks to Allah he means someone different then an Christian.

How can a Religion which denyes that Jesus is Gods son come from God?
This Religion has nothing common with God!
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The apocrypha isn't from God either, yet it is still a useful historical text. Muslims only worship the Father, not Jesus. True. But I would say that it is the same Father as Jesus, because they describe him as "all-merciful, all-powerful." That sounds like Jesus. However there is so much wrong with Christianity that the Quran corrects, that's why I consider it sacred scripture. I believe Saul took the New Testament waaaay off course. Saul rebelled against his Jewish upbringing. Doing a 180, saying that Christians are NOT under the Law. Saul is a premonition of the anti-christ (The Lawless One), NOT Islam. Islam is NOT Satanic, stop repeating things you hear from right wing extremists and think for yourself. If Muslims only worship the Father, if they would NEVER worship a man on Earth, then you know the anti-christ cannot be Muslim. The real threat is the letters from Saul.
 
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KegOfCorona said:
The apocrypha isn't from God either, yet it is still a useful historical text. Muslims only worship the Father, not Jesus. True. But I would say that it is the same Father as Jesus, because they describe him as "all-merciful, all-powerful." That sounds like Jesus. However there is so much wrong with Christianity that the Quran corrects, that's why I consider it sacred scripture. I believe Saul took the New Testament waaaay off course. Saul rebelled against his Jewish upbringing. Doing a 180, saying that Christians are NOT under the Law. Saul is a premonition of the anti-christ (The Lawless One), NOT Islam. Islam is NOT Satanic, stop repeating things you hear from right wing extremists and think for yourself. If Muslims only worship the Father, if they would NEVER worship a man on Earth, then you know the anti-christ cannot be Muslim. The real threat is the letters from Saul.
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Nope, you are on the wrong way, if you believe this.! No Jesus- no father!!
The word of God is there very clear!!
The God of the Islam is very mercyful. Tell this the folks which were overrun from Mohammed! Tell this all the Christians brother and sisters which were killed from Mohammeds mercyful new Religion.
Nope, there is nothing common between the creator of this world and the God which was revealed to Mohhamed.
 
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Everything you say about Mohammed and Muslims you can say about Christians. Remember the crusades? The dark age? They preached what you preach...
 
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KegOfCorona said:
Seriously? Like you know me? I've been a BORN AGAIN Christian since 2003.
However, I may consider the Quran a sacred text. As Muslims consider the Old Testament and New Testament a sacred text also.
I do not cause division like most Christians. I try to find common ground, which fosters peace, instead of discord.
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This will bring peace KOC

Good news
 
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