Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

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Tamarisk said:
Now Trump needs to do The right thing and step down because of his age and senility. We don’t need an old senile president..
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Please, stop passing this leftist lie. There isn't a thing wrong with Trump in his health in any way. It's a flat out lie and you don't have to be overly smart to see this.
 
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No, this isn’t in bad faith because I always I’m Very transparent about the fact that I believe that Biden should’ve never been the president and that the 25th amendment should be enacted right now and Harris should take over.

Here’s the thing when you present me with statements, like that, I have to take them at face value and take that person’s word for it until I have absolutely proof to the Contrary. And although I watched the debate, just like you, I’m not a professional, and cannot say for sure that my beliefs about the 25th amendment and it’s a necessity is accurate.

You’r expecting me to mind read, and read into other peoples comments based on my own opinions, which is in bad faith.
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You don't think the fact he is progressively getting worse at pulling and mapping words in daily speech is evidence of some sort of cognitive decline?

Because you're not a professional, you can't draw a link from his physical and cognitive declines over the last 3-4 years and suspect it could be a symptom of MCI? You don't think the reason his admin didn't want to have Biden take a cognitive test and reveal the results was because it could possibly make all the suspicions true?

We don't need a pregnancy test to prove a woman in labor is pregnant.

If you're naive to think Kamala wasn't and isn't aware of Biden's decline, then I apologize for saying you're discussing in bad faith. Just so you know, Democrats and Republicans are united in the belief of Biden's cognitive decline... but since Biden refused to take a cognitive test to put everyone at ease, we can PROVE he has MCI (the standard you're requiring) and he dropped out and Kamala is the defacto nominee.
 
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Tamarisk said:
Yes It was awful. And I believe he did the right thing by stepping down from the campaign.

Now Trump needs to do The right thing and step down because of his age and senility. We don’t need an old senile president. Trump made that case very clearly when he was running against Biden.
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What evidence or proof do you have that satisfied the threshold to claim Trump is "senile"? Earlier, you said you couldn't read Kamala's mind and you take her at her word that Biden isn't in any way cognitively declining or impaired. Trump not only took cognitive test, but he also apparently passed them with "flying colors".

To require the burden of proof for one candidate but not the other is a bad faith argument in my opinion. People here will tell you I have condemned Trump, praised him, etc... I don't particularly get along with most people here because I counter them with damning rebuttals to their right-wing talking point. Go check out the threads about Israel and the Palestinians. Hopefully you can see your double-standard here.
 
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You don't think the fact he is progressively getting worse at pulling and mapping words in daily speech is evidence of some sort of cognitive decline?

Because you're not a professional, you can't draw a link from his physical and cognitive declines over the last 3-4 years and suspect it could be a symptom of MCI? You don't think the reason his admin didn't want to have Biden take a cognitive test and reveal the results was because it could possibly make all the suspicions true?

We don't need a pregnancy test to prove a woman in labor is pregnant.

If you're naive to think Kamala wasn't and isn't aware of Biden's decline, then I apologize for saying you're discussing in bad faith. Just so you know, Democrats and Republicans are united in the belief of Biden's cognitive decline... but since Biden refused to take a cognitive test to put everyone at ease, we can PROVE he has MCI (the standard you're requiring) and he dropped out and Kamala is the defacto nominee.
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Who has said Biden is too feeble to be President except Republicans? Biden never said it in his social media post or his official letter announcing he was dropping out. He never said it in his address to the nation. All he said was he was doing what he thought was best for his party and the country. I've never heard any Democrats or anyone close to Biden say he's too feeble or sick and that's why he dropped out. If someone other than Republicans have said this I'd seriously like to know who it is and where it can be found; cause I haven't heard this at all.
 
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Who has said Biden is too feeble to be President except Republicans? Biden never said it in his social media post or his official letter announcing he was dropping out. He never said it in his address to the nation. All he said was he was doing what he thought was best for his party and the country. I've never heard any Democrats or anyone close to Biden say he's too feeble or sick and that's why he dropped out. If someone other than Republicans have said this I'd seriously like to know who it is and where it can be found; cause I haven't heard this at all.
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The young turks have been saying this for five years. I and many others felt like we voted for Biden with a gun to our head. This is why the Democrats are embracing Harris because she’s not perfect but she’s not Biden. And she’s not old and decrepit.

It’s mainly generation Xers to Zoomers that do not believe someone in their 70s and 80s should be the President of the United States
 
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Who has said Biden is too feeble to be President except Republicans? Biden never said it in his social media post or his official letter announcing he was dropping out. He never said it in his address to the nation. All he said was he was doing what he thought was best for his party and the country. I've never heard any Democrats or anyone close to Biden say he's too feeble or sick and that's why he dropped out. If someone other than Republicans have said this I'd seriously like to know who it is and where it can be found; cause I haven't heard this at all.
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Is it your opinion that nearly 2/3 of Democrats wanted Biden to drop out BECAUSE he showed great mental cognition during the debate and even better physical stamina as Jill guided him down each step? You might be an "alien" but not a resident of earth if this is news to you that the left abandoned and strongarmed Biden BECAUSE of his mental decline. The polls immediately after the debate further illustrated this.
 
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Tamarisk said:
The young turks have been saying this for five years. I and many others felt like we voted for Biden with a gun to our head. This is why the Democrats are embracing Harris because she’s not perfect but she’s not Biden. And she’s not old and decrepit.

It’s mainly generation Xers to Zoomers that do not believe someone in their 70s and 80s should be the President of the United States
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The Democrats should have allowed Bernie Sanders to become the Democratic nominee in 2020 instead of colluding to give it to Biden. The Democrats really went out of their way to steal it from Sanders. They are paying for their sins right now... :oops:
 
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ResidentAlien said:
Who has said Biden is too feeble to be President except Republicans? Biden never said it in his social media post or his official letter announcing he was dropping out. He never said it in his address to the nation. All he said was he was doing what he thought was best for his party and the country. I've never heard any Democrats or anyone close to Biden say he's too feeble or sick and that's why he dropped out. If someone other than Republicans have said this I'd seriously like to know who it is and where it can be found; cause I haven't heard this at all.
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That right. You have never heard the truth out of Biden and the Dims.

Did you think that they were in the truth business? Pity.
 
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President Biden made a Decision not to accept his parties nomination, and that’s his choice. It doesn’t say anything about his in ability or inability to be president. And Harris has double down on those statements since he Endorsed her as the party nominee. She still believes he’s a good president and he’s doing a good job.
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Get a clue buddy........

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Tamarisk

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Get a clue buddy........

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I have a clue and opinions. I’ve stated this before. It is my opinion he should drop out however, I am not a professional. So I cannot speak to his ability or inability to be president. We would have to Begin the process of enacting the 25th amendment. If a medical examination dim sum on fit, then he needs to Resign.

I think an age cap of 70 would stop all of this nonsense. You can’t be an airline pilot past 70 so you shouldn’t be a president.
 
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Smoke said:
You don't think the fact he is progressively getting worse at pulling and mapping words in daily speech is evidence of some sort of cognitive decline?

Because you're not a professional, you can't draw a link from his physical and cognitive declines over the last 3-4 years and suspect it could be a symptom of MCI? You don't think the reason his admin didn't want to have Biden take a cognitive test and reveal the results was because it could possibly make all the suspicions true?

We don't need a pregnancy test to prove a woman in labor is pregnant.

If you're naive to think Kamala wasn't and isn't aware of Biden's decline, then I apologize for saying you're discussing in bad faith. Just so you know, Democrats and Republicans are united in the belief of Biden's cognitive decline... but since Biden refused to take a cognitive test to put everyone at ease, we can PROVE he has MCI (the standard you're requiring) and he dropped out and Kamala is the defacto nominee.
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Listen, I absolutely think that’s what’s going on and that’s why I think an age cap of 70 needs to be enacted for the President of the United States.

And that’s exactly why I’m not going to vote for Trump. He did horrible in that debate as well, he told About 20 lies. Every time he was asked a question he trailed off into a different subject and never answered the question directly. To me, that’s clear evidence of cognitive failure.

I think it’s clear to anyone paying attention that Trump has way more cognitive failure then Biden, because at least Biden was able to answer the question directly, although he stumbled with it and miss spoke.
 
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Tamarisk said:
Listen, I absolutely think that’s what’s going on and that’s why I think an age cap of 70 needs to be enacted for the President of the United States.

And that’s exactly why I’m not going to vote for Trump. He did horrible in that debate as well, he told About 20 lies. Every time he was asked a question he trailed off into a different subject and never answered the question directly. To me, that’s clear evidence of cognitive failure.

I think it’s clear to anyone paying attention that Trump has way more cognitive failure then Biden, because at least Biden was able to answer the question directly, although he stumbled with it and miss spoke.
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I can see some common ground with you on age restrictions. We have an age restriction MINIMUM (35) and it only makes sense to have one for being too old. We arbitrarily said 35 years was the minimum, we would have to agree to arbitrarily set a maximum age. A person can be too young and inexperienced to run for president, but he can't be too old AND cognitively impaired? :unsure:

We also agree that Trump lies and exaggerates quite a bit. I don't mean to justify his lying (especially since I've called him out on this site), but there isn't any linkage between "lying/exaggerating" and "being senile". Trump isn't lying/exaggerating BECAUSE he's mentally impaired... He's lying/exaggerating while being in relatively good mental health. He has taken those cognitive tests as well.

You could make the case Trump ought NOT to lie or exaggerate and I'm with you... but to use that to illustrate his cognitive decline is extremely disingenuous.
 
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Smoke said:
I can see some common ground with you on age restrictions. We have an age restriction MINIMUM (35) and it only makes sense to have one for being too old. We arbitrarily said 35 years was the minimum, we would have to agree to arbitrarily set a maximum age. A person can be too young and inexperienced to run for president, but he can't be too old AND cognitively impaired? :unsure:

We also agree that Trump lies and exaggerates quite a bit. I don't mean to justify his lying (especially since I've called him out on this site), but there isn't any linkage between "lying/exaggerating" and "being senile". Trump isn't lying/exaggerating BECAUSE he's mentally impaired... He's lying/exaggerating while being in relatively good mental health. He has taken those cognitive tests as well.

You could make the case Trump ought NOT to lie or exaggerate and I'm with you... but to use that to illustrate his cognitive decline is extremely disingenuous.
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The thing is is, I believe he really believes his lies at this point. Just like he believes his lies about the election being stolen in 2020.
I think it’s at a point where he believes in an alternate reality and he’s having the masses. Follow him into an imaginary reality doesn’t exist.
 
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Tamarisk said:
the election being stolen in 2020.
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Of course every spooky agency on the planet knows this. NSA, CIA, FSB, CSIS, MI6, Mossad, China.....the works. No doubt about it. Why?

Because I certainly know. And if a pathetic nobody schmuck like me knows based on the available evidence......then they must know too.

BTW........the election steal was happening live on TV on election night. Obvious to anyone with any grasp of statistics/stochastics.
 
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