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Mem

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Yeah, when people try to score that point with me I simply point out the obvious. There is no earthly way that 1% Joe and 2% Kammy got more votes than the first black president, let alone Trump. Trump has crowds over 20 thousand people, I know, my sister and her husband attended a rally and stood in line for hours. They were giving Kammy a big pat on the back because she got one thousand people. rofl
Idk, it could just mean dem supporters are lackadaisical, and they'd hardly go out of their way for much of anything.
 

Cameron143

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Hi @Cameron143

No we don't. We know that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court allowed ballots to be counted that were received after the election date, but were postmarked as having been in the mail prior to the election date. No problem there. If it was postmarked before the election date, then it was still a ballot that was made without any knowledge of who the winner might be. The same knowledge as each one of us have when we cast our ballot.

I used to be a landlord and I would always tell my tenants that if I received their mailed rent payment in an envelope that was postmarked before the due date of the rent, then I would consider that a timely rent payment. Similarly, if someone fills out a mail in ballot on the day of, or the day before, the election and got it to the post office in time for it to be postmarked at least by the day of the election, then that ballot is valid. And if the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania says that it is legal, then it isn't in any way a fraudulent ballot. It would be a perfectly legal ballot according to the election laws of the state of Pennsylvania. We should keep in mind that each state has the lawful duty to determine how the voting process works within their boundaries.

BTW do you know how many ballots were counted as such? How many ballots did the elections departments of Pennsylvania receive after the election date that were postmarked by the election date? That issue doesn't really have any bearing on the matter, but I'm just curious whether or not you've done the research to prove your point. And of course, another more important matter would be, how many of those late ballots were for the Democratic ticket and how many for the Republican ticket? You might actually find out that more Republican votes came in by mail after the election date but postmarked on or before it.
They counted votes that were received after the deadline. The law was received, not posted. And they were run through machines and then kept from public consumption.
To not believe that Democrats cheat in elections is ludicrous on its face. They have admitted it themselves for a long time. And anyone who believes 81 million Americans actually voted for Biden is not someone who really desires the truth concerning US elections.
There were at least 19 lawsuits filed concerning election fraud. Not one was given a hearing in court. When you can't get discovery, it's hard to get all the necessary evidence.
 

ZNP

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Well I just got an answer to that question we are all asking, "how stupid would you have to be for Kamala Harris to think you were stupid?"


Basically if you go to college and live in a dormitory it is proof to Kamala Harris of stupidity even exceeding her own.
 
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Idk, it could just mean dem supporters are lackadaisical, and they'd hardly go out of their way for much of anything.

When we think back to the election, it was Bernie who was winning. We all know what he believes. Biden was supposed to be a moderate! They had to make a fast move and suddenly Biden was the focus. Kammy was picked, not by Biden. She called him out as a racist. All this baloney now of how she loves Joe and his wife when it's well known Jill didn't want her and can't stand her. She was picked because she's a "black woman". She got 2% of the vote. Now Joe, he plagiarized his speech and had to drop out of running for president the first time. He ran twice and got 1% of the vote. But these two numb skulls got more votes than the first black president AND Trump?! If y'all believe that I have some proverbial ocean front property... Didn't happen!!
 

Mem

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When we think back to the election, it was Bernie who was winning. We all know what he believes. Biden was supposed to be a moderate! They had to make a fast move and suddenly Biden was the focus. Kammy was picked, not by Biden. She called him out as a racist. All this baloney now of how she loves Joe and his wife when it's well known Jill didn't want her and can't stand her. She was picked because she's a "black woman". She got 2% of the vote. Now Joe, he plagiarized his speech and had to drop out of running for president the first time. He ran twice and got 1% of the vote. But these two numb skulls got more votes than the first black president AND Trump?! If y'all believe that I have some proverbial ocean front property... Didn't happen!!
Playing the entire nation for stupid... if there ever was a time that a Trump card was need... this is, exactly, the time, and reason, to play it.
 
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I'm not going to get into the questions. I didn't write them. But I'm going to ask as a Christian what does Kammy stand for that you think makes her a worthy candidate. And Trump didn't waiver on abortion, Christians did. They will not get out and vote so he did the smartest thing, left it to the states. Now if Christians actually care about life instead of just giving it lip service they will get off their round behinds and go vote. No reason to lose a national election because of stiff necked Christians.

Let's get to Harris, who will not say there should be any limits on abortion. Trump has said he's for the three exceptions, I disagree. But Harris will not say anything about limits. How do you defend that POV as a Christian?
VP Harris is more level headed. Certainly vastly more decent in her communications with others. Greatly wiser than the guy who thinks he can draw hurricane maps with a sharpie that aren't at all a true representation of the path of the hurricane and I'm confident she never thought that shooting ourselves up with chlorine as a means to combat Covid. I mean the GOP nominee is just so vastly ignorant of a lot of the normal things that most people know about life. I don't recall ever hearing her call people that don't agree with her derogatory and just nasty names. Come on, really? You think a national leader that refers to people as 'lyin' so-and-so, or 'little rocket man' or 'bleeding out of her whatever' would be a better leader than someone who can actually relate to people with a sense of respect for the other person. I'm sorry, but that's not something I support in the leader of my country. And that will just have to be something that you and I don't agree on. I don't have that much hate and anxiety about others that I have to act like some first grader calling names to the bully on the playground or the little girl who is overweight. That just isn't in me. If it's in you then go for it.

The GOP nominee is currently wavering on abortion. You just haven't been keeping up with his words on the subject over the last 6 months. I can't help that. Of course, the fact that abortions are legal isn't an issue for me. I understand that God asks His children to obey and honor His law. The lost are lost for the very reason that they aren't sold on obeying some set of laws that are supposedly established by someone that they don't believe in. And that isn't some new thing. The lost have always lived in sin, the only difference is that there are more of them today than there were 100 years ago, but that's what the Scriptures tell us about the future condition of mankind as we move inexorably to the last day. God doesn't ever ask any of us to go out and beat the unbelievers over the head with His law. What He asks of us is that we tell them about Jesus and in doing that work we can help move some from the dominion of darkness to the dominion of God's light. It doesn't matter whether or not abortion is legal. The believer won't be getting one. The believer likely won't put themselves in the position of needing one if they are truly following God's instructions about 'how' we are to use the sexual relationship between and man and a woman. So no, I don't have a problem with her supporting a woman's right to choose how she accepts an unwanted pregnancy. What I know is that for those who love God, they likely won't be needing one.

Have you read the Scriptures? Paul writes to us that we aren't to judge those who are not a part of us. Do you know why Paul wrote that? Why he would say that we shouldn't judge those who aren't a part of us, but we are to judge those who are a part of us.

And you have no idea what VP Harris believes about limits to the abortion procedure. If you're like the talking heads of the MAGA crowd, you believe that we just hold babies up from their mother's womb and slit their throats right there in the delivery room. That doesn't happen, my sister.

God bless you and I'd just suggest that you try reading your copy of the Scriptures, not listen to talking heads, and find out exactly what God says our responsibility as His children living upon the earth with the unbelievers. He instructs us not to be a part of them, but nowhere does He give us any directive, nor is there any practice found within the writings of the new covenant, that God asks us to go out and win the nations over to Him, except through the proclamation of the gospel.

I believe that Jesus was quite clear about 'who' we were to teach to obey all that he commanded. Those who have heard the gospel, and been baptized, we are then commanded to teach 'them' all that he has commanded us. The unbelievers are unbelievers. You don't seem to grasp that fact.

God bless you,
Ted
 
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No. Its not worth my time and effort.
But by all means put on your Dick Tracy hat and spend a few months investigating the vast mountain of evidence and come to your own conclusions.
Hi @cv5

I have. And there's nothing there. There is not one single piece of evidence that the 2020 election was any more or less trustful than any of our previous elections in at least the last 20 years.
 

ZNP

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JUST SAD! - Kamala Harris' Latest Ad BACKFIRED on Her Presidential Campaign Bid
 
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They counted votes that were received after the deadline. The law was received, not posted. And they were run through machines and then kept from public consumption.
To not believe that Democrats cheat in elections is ludicrous on its face. They have admitted it themselves for a long time. And anyone who believes 81 million Americans actually voted for Biden is not someone who really desires the truth concerning US elections.
There were at least 19 lawsuits filed concerning election fraud. Not one was given a hearing in court. When you can't get discovery, it's hard to get all the necessary evidence.
Hi @Cameron143

None of that is true.
 

cv5

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They counted votes that were received after the deadline. The law was received, not posted. And they were run through machines and then kept from public consumption.
To not believe that Democrats cheat in elections is ludicrous on its face. They have admitted it themselves for a long time. And anyone who believes 81 million Americans actually voted for Biden is not someone who really desires the truth concerning US elections.
There were at least 19 lawsuits filed concerning election fraud. Not one was given a hearing in court. When you can't get discovery, it's hard to get all the necessary evidence.
By far the most epic, the most well coordinated, and profoundly vast election fraud escapade in all of American history.

Nothing else even remotely compares.

Truly, the USA hit the banana republic nadir in the 2020 election steal.
 

cv5

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VP Harris is more level headed. Certainly vastly more decent in her communications with others. Greatly wiser than the guy who thinks he can draw hurricane maps with a sharpie that aren't at all a true representation of the path of the hurricane and I'm confident she never thought that shooting ourselves up with chlorine as a means to combat Covid. I mean the GOP nominee is just so vastly ignorant of a lot of the normal things that most people know about life. I don't recall ever hearing her call people that don't agree with her derogatory and just nasty names. Come on, really? You think a national leader that refers to people as 'lyin' so-and-so, or 'little rocket man' or 'bleeding out of her whatever' would be a better leader than someone who can actually relate to people with a sense of respect for the other person. I'm sorry, but that's not something I support in the leader of my country. And that will just have to be something that you and I don't agree on. I don't have that much hate and anxiety about others that I have to act like some first grader calling names to the bully on the playground or the little girl who is overweight. That just isn't in me. If it's in you then go for it.

The GOP nominee is currently wavering on abortion. You just haven't been keeping up with his words on the subject over the last 6 months. I can't help that. Of course, the fact that abortions are legal isn't an issue for me. I understand that God asks His children to obey and honor His law. The lost are lost for the very reason that they aren't sold on obeying some set of laws that are supposedly established by someone that they don't believe in. And that isn't some new thing. The lost have always lived in sin, the only difference is that there are more of them today than there were 100 years ago, but that's what the Scriptures tell us about the future condition of mankind as we move inexorably to the last day. God doesn't ever ask any of us to go out and beat the unbelievers over the head with His law. What He asks of us is that we tell them about Jesus and in doing that work we can help move some from the dominion of darkness to the dominion of God's light. It doesn't matter whether or not abortion is legal. The believer won't be getting one. The believer likely won't put themselves in the position of needing one if they are truly following God's instructions about 'how' we are to use the sexual relationship between and man and a woman. So no, I don't have a problem with her supporting a woman's right to choose how she accepts an unwanted pregnancy. What I know is that for those who love God, they likely won't be needing one.

Have you read the Scriptures? Paul writes to us that we aren't to judge those who are not a part of us. Do you know why Paul wrote that? Why he would say that we shouldn't judge those who aren't a part of us, but we are to judge those who are a part of us.

And you have no idea what VP Harris believes about limits to the abortion procedure. If you're like the talking heads of the MAGA crowd, you believe that we just hold babies up from their mother's womb and slit their throats right there in the delivery room. That doesn't happen, my sister.

God bless you and I'd just suggest that you try reading your copy of the Scriptures, not listen to talking heads, and find out exactly what God says our responsibility as His children living upon the earth with the unbelievers. He instructs us not to be a part of them, but nowhere does He give us any directive, nor is there any practice found within the writings of the new covenant, that God asks us to go out and win the nations over to Him, except through the proclamation of the gospel.

I believe that Jesus was quite clear about 'who' we were to teach to obey all that he commanded. Those who have heard the gospel, and been baptized, we are then commanded to teach 'them' all that he has commanded us. The unbelievers are unbelievers. You don't seem to grasp that fact.

God bless you,
Ted
Does this ring a bell fella? I doubt it.

Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ on X: "Kamala Harris proposes a regime of "equity" based on a simple principle: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. This should sound familiar. https://t.co/PO6vUSrJ5m" / X
 
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Hi @cv5

Yes it does ring a bell. However, it doesn't ring any bell in that clip you linked on X. She never says that. That's your putting words into her mouth because she makes some claims about equity among people in the United States. I think that it is the bedrock of our nation that everyone is supposed to be treated equal or equitably. She never mentions what she is referring to as her idea of equity as it might relate to money, job opportunities, educational opportunities, housing or whatever. So, your making a talking point from something that she never said isn't on her. That would be on you. Sorry bro.
 
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Do you know why the courts would not take the cases?
Yes, I read all the reports that were made concerning the matter. They were all determined to have no basis in fact. And look, if you think that was wrong, then tell us, what evidence was presented, that wasn't allowed, but you believe did have evidentiary facts to support the filings? I mean, all you have to do is show or tell us, what evidence was there that you believe should have been considered as viable evidence. What have you got.

So far no one has been able to go back and show the courts the error of their ways. What evidence wasn't allowed to be presented in a court of law that you believe would secure the claim that the election was somehow fraudulent or stolen. That's all. Instead of just parroting the political talking heads that are telling you that the courts didn't accept the evidence, then tell us, what evidence wouldn't they allow that makes the case of the GOP's claim that the election somehow wasn't handled properly.

What have you got.

Son, I can tell everyone I know that I'm the King of England. I can put the title on my letterhead and I can sign all of my documents as 'King of England'. But I assure you that my being able to sleep in Buckingham palace is pretty near impossible, even though I may fully believe and affirm that I'm the King of England. This is exactly what the GOP is doing. They have all sorts of complaints, but they have not one shred of evidence to support their complaints. You say they do. Ok, what is it?

I mean one of his attorneys, Powell, held up a stack of papers 6" thick claiming that they were all filled out statements of observed irregularities. Yet they didn't present with any of those filled out claims, any proof that the claim was true. I mean, anyone can fill out an affidavit against someone, but that alone isn't proof of the charge in the affidavit. That's what is happening here. You're believing a lie, my friend. The GOP nominee at one point showed Leslie Stahl a yuge folder that he said was his great and glorious health insurance plan. Yet for those who have now seen that folder, it had nothing in it about health insurance. He just lied to everyone expecting all of his MAGAites to just accept his word as truth. I'm not will to do that. Tell me, if you can. What is his great and glorious, better than anyone has ever in the world done, health plan? What is it. How does it work. Who, in his plan will be paying for the health coverage charges for people? How much is it going to cost for health insurance under his plan? Have you ever seen or heard him mention a single specific about his health insurance plan other than his claim that it will be the best that has ever been?

Don't drink the Kool-Aid. The GOP nominee is a consummate liar. He is literally the epitome of the 'how do you know if a lawyer is lying' joke.