What frees, the love of God to all, or the hammer of people?

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homwardbound

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christiandriverslicense[1]_Original.jpeg Jesus is risen where new life from Father is given. Since one turns to Father from within themselves and believes.
Son took all sin away at that cross, in the last shedding of blood. It is done.
is it done? Each gets to decide, and ask God for new life in the risen Christ. Then gets it, unless one asks amiss.

John 19:30

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30 When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

Did, he take away sin then and there, is it finished or not? This is done in Father’s sight, not the world’s ( John 1:29)


Luke 21:14-15

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14 But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. 15 For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict.
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therefore it is done, finished for new life to be given to us each personally or not?

you decide, I have, and have gone through turmoils, and not quit belief to rest in. Hebrews 4:9-13. Asked to grow, Hebrews 5:12- Chapter 6. Been growing ever since learning humility, as pride continues to try to butt in
trusting God to reveal truth to each of us. To see God does justly love us all. 1 John 2:1-2


Romans 8:10

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10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life[a] because of righteousness.

therefore are you alive by God in risen Son, or are you still dead in your first birth of flesh, trying to live righteous?
you decide, between God and you, thank you
 

p_rehbein

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One issue I have with the Driver's License is the Date of Birth part. "Since creation" appears to be a reference to Calvin's Theory. I can not go along with that part.

IMO, Date of Birth would be more correct if in keeping with John 3:16, right? Upon repenting and asking Jesus to become Lord and Savior of our lives. Our "rebirth."
 

homwardbound

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Obedience for me is by Faith in the risen Son, that God Father raised for us to get given new life to lead, instead of me or any other person.
 

homwardbound

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Hey @homwardbound

So, have you had a chance to test it out yet?

I have watched over the years, standing in belief to God. And have learned to be dead to sin, since Son took it all away, but unbelief, hec did it.
born again has happened since. finalizing the truth John 1:29. It has taken years in not quitting belief, with all the tragedies I have gone through. I now see God does take it all out of the way for those that will not quit belief, at that cross, sin got dealt with complete, reconciled. Not saved until I believed this truth, it is done once for everyone to stand in.
these kids that do this, believe all the nasty nines and dirty dozen are dealt with by Son, once and for all. The only problem in the way is whether or not anyone 100% believes God in Son took all sin out of the way, first. In order to give new life to those that believe he is risen, asked for the born again life are given it
that does not happen overnight. There are bad habits in our flesh bodies, that need Sussed out. That takes time in not quitting belief to God. God removes them as we, I see it is not me.
‘that is amazing grace given
to see not to be the one doing the right way. no flesh van please God, but Son’s that did that for us all.
‘believe, receive and see too. Yet if any pride gets in you, one will not see and not stop sin, because of guilt and pride
 

homwardbound

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It is truth, that no flesh can see. It takes being born again by God. To be born again and stop sin, this takes 100% belief, not any doubt ever again,
 

homwardbound

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One issue I have with the Driver's License is the Date of Birth part. "Since creation" appears to be a reference to Calvin's Theory. I can not go along with that part.

IMO, Date of Birth would be more correct if in keeping with John 3:16, right? Upon repenting and asking Jesus to become Lord and Savior of our lives. Our "rebirth."
could be, yet Paul talks of God forming him in his mothers womb. God saw all as good, each day in creating. Rested on the seventh day.
called it all good. Then Adam the first failed. God gave mercy from day one
amazing grace. As God knows who will choose God and will not. Yet still reaches out to us all, I bet knowing everyone has been given the freec
that is the most amazing love i choose God, I not ever making me a puppet. God loves us all. Amazing and definitely not easy. Since there is a lot of troubles here on earth, trying to get anyone not to believe God.
just read the book of Job. He did not do anything wrong, but get a little proud over those world counselors. That be when God asked Job, did you make the whirlwind and many others things which humbles me
God reaches out to all to choose. And each person, whatever they choose, each will know consciously what they have chosen to believe God 100% or not,
God just loves us all. Once one sees that, it changes one, it has me, and many others too.
 

homwardbound

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One issue I have with the Driver's License is the Date of Birth part. "Since creation" appears to be a reference to Calvin's Theory. I can not go along with that part.

IMO, Date of Birth would be more correct if in keeping with John 3:16, right? Upon repenting and asking Jesus to become Lord and Savior of our lives. Our "rebirth."
Choose to believe God, do not quit, no matter what troubles come up. Then see
people say show me God, then I will believe. God says believe me, and I will show you. It is just not instantly. God is not a vending machine.
it takes continued belief, no matter what.i know, I have been in them, even death, more than once. Thanks
however I trust God, not any religion