The collapse of America

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montana123

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They were talking about Covid 19 for a while then we did not hear anything about it for a while, or not much about it.

And then all of a sudden they are talking about it a lot.

But that is how they operate by going on about a subject for a while, and then ceasing, or slowing down, and then going on about it which is usually more than they did before.

The plan is 2 steps forward, 1 step back, 2 steps forward, 1 step back, but they are making progress, and they do not want to rush the plan which adds to them deceiving better.

The plan is to establish an occult world where there is no God, and to stop all other forms of belief.

America has to collapse in order to give birth to the New World Order.

Like the mystic, occult, Phoenix Eagle, that after 200 or more years is consumed in fire, and and out its ashes arises a new Phoenix Eagle, America must collapse, and out of its ruins shall arise the New World Order.

So they are going to collapse America on purpose.

That is why Hilary Clinton was wearing a label pin of a Phoenix Eagle with a ball in its talons representing the Earth looking to the left. which Bonnie Newman, a Republican, was wearing the same lapel pin.

Since they are going to collapse America on purpose they want to cripple the people physically, mentally, and financially.

We hear a lot about Covid, the flu, RSV, and a flu type thing that people say is affecting people that is none of those things.

They are like mad scientists in a lab as they try to find ways to create these illnesses so they affect the people more severely, and stay with them longer.

Which is what they are saying because they are trying to make it that way.

Also to get people to take vaccines that have nothing to do with these illnesses but there is another purpose for it.

It was great living in America, the prosperity, freedom, but it will soon be terrible to live there as they collapse America on purpose by crippling the people which will cripple the nation.

The America government does not care about the American people, but they are looking at the world to gather it together to establish the new age movement, and to prepare for the next evolutionary process of humans the 5th root race, 6th sub-race.

The Europeans are its fifth subrace, while the present Americans are the germs of the sixth subrace of the fifth root race.

The seventh subrace will start its preparations in 25,000 years, after which there will be cataclysms that will destroy Europe and the whole fifth root race.

The Bible says the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts the world down, and they shall devour the whole earth, tread it down, and break it in to pieces.

Which will include all European nations, and nations taken over by Caucasians, including the Pope, and Vatican.

Which they will do that by establishing the new age movement in the world as the only belief system that is a Caucasian led plan, and the New Age Christ/antichrist a Caucasian man.

Which all religions will be interpreted by the new age movement.
 

p_rehbein

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A lot of supposition/speculation, but probably a kernel of truth here and there. I do firmly believe that the desire of the socialist liberals in this country is to turn our Nation into the United Socialist States of America, and to rewrite our Constitution into their Magna Carta.
 

ZNP

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A lot of supposition/speculation, but probably a kernel of truth here and there. I do firmly believe that the desire of the socialist liberals in this country is to turn our Nation into the United Socialist States of America, and to rewrite our Constitution into their Magna Carta.
If it was just the socialists in this country they would not have been so bold, brazen, or criminal.

It is the globalists around the world and it is the richest 0.1%.

They knew 5 years ago that this year we would be able to replace 40% of the world's work force, a number that is far beyond the great depression. The collapse we are seeing in China is terrifying. The powers that be are acutely aware of the Russian revolution, the french revolution, and the communist takeover of China. That is why they agreed to the pandemic hoax to push this vaccine, paving the way for the real killer virus. 3 billion unemployed people would be absolutely catastrophic, and rich people don't get rich by having UBI, that is simply the drug they use to put you to sleep before giving you the drug that stops your heart.

Look at the facts, there is no possible justification for everyone from NIH, CDC, FDA, FBI, DOJ, President, AMA, etc., etc. going along with the vaccine mandate of the EUA worldwide. These are not stupid people, so the only explanation is they are evil people. With AI, 3d printing, Machine learning, robots and drones they don't need 85% of the people on the planet anymore.

There is no reason whatsoever that someone running this country would let the 8-10 million illegals in during the last three years. Even democrats are crying out in pain. That is an invading army to take down this nation the same way we dropped paratroopers behind enemy lines before the invasion of Normandy. The US is the single biggest impediment to a one world government. They used the US to push this vaccine so that when the facts came out the rest of the world would not take issue with what they are about to do to this country, it will be seen as a justifiable response.

Election fraud was not simply run by Biden, it was international in scope. You have seen how Epstein island works, they have people in all the key positions, one way or another they have them blackmailed to do their bidding.

Here is how this works, they use the useful idiots to do their bidding but then they need to send in a hit man so they never talk and tie the true puppeteer to the crime, that is where Trump comes in. These globalists are terrified of him because they know he will "clean house". It is like the Lufthansa heist in Goodfellows, the key guy used a bunch of useful idiots for the heist and then bumped them all off afterwards.
 

ZNP

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There is nothing that you or anyone else can do. They know about preppers and will hunt them down. Why do you think there is this wasting disease around the country hitting deer? They know some will try and hide out in the woods, they are killing off the food supply same way we killed off the buffalo to get the Indians. You can fish, but it will be very easy for the drones and satellites to spot a fisherman.

This is why they are destroying the food supply and creating a famine, you will have to go to the government for food. Once you do that they will have complete control.

They will hunt down the people who don't. Why do you think we have these movies about hunting people, or the purge, or the zombie apocalypse? By law they must tell us what they are going to do. The goal is souls and you don't "sell your soul to the devil" unless it is a legally binding contract. But that is why there is no escape. The Lord will make every single person make a choice, Jesus or the Antichrist. There is no salvation in any other name than Jesus Christ, Lord of Lords and King of kings.

The only protection from what is coming is prayer under the blood of Jesus.
 

ZNP

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I Tracked Down Illegal Immigrants in NYC


Jeremiah 51:14 The Lord of hosts hath sworn by himself, saying, Surely I will fill thee with men, as with caterpillers; and they shall lift up a shout against thee.
 

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There is nothing that you or anyone else can do. They know about preppers and will hunt them down. Why do you think there is this wasting disease around the country hitting deer? They know some will try and hide out in the woods, they are killing off the food supply same way we killed off the buffalo to get the Indians. You can fish, but it will be very easy for the drones and satellites to spot a fisherman.

This is why they are destroying the food supply and creating a famine, you will have to go to the government for food. Once you do that they will have complete control.

They will hunt down the people who don't. Why do you think we have these movies about hunting people, or the purge, or the zombie apocalypse? By law they must tell us what they are going to do. The goal is souls and you don't "sell your soul to the devil" unless it is a legally binding contract. But that is why there is no escape. The Lord will make every single person make a choice, Jesus or the Antichrist. There is no salvation in any other name than Jesus Christ, Lord of Lords and King of kings.

The only protection from what is coming is prayer under the blood of Jesus.
I bet you’re a lot of fun at parties.
 
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There is nothing that you or anyone else can do. They know about preppers and will hunt them down. Why do you think there is this wasting disease around the country hitting deer? They know some will try and hide out in the woods, they are killing off the food supply same way we killed off the buffalo to get the Indians. You can fish, but it will be very easy for the drones and satellites to spot a fisherman.

This is why they are destroying the food supply and creating a famine, you will have to go to the government for food. Once you do that they will have complete control.

They will hunt down the people who don't. Why do you think we have these movies about hunting people, or the purge, or the zombie apocalypse? By law they must tell us what they are going to do. The goal is souls and you don't "sell your soul to the devil" unless it is a legally binding contract. But that is why there is no escape. The Lord will make every single person make a choice, Jesus or the Antichrist. There is no salvation in any other name than Jesus Christ, Lord of Lords and King of kings.

The only protection from what is coming is prayer under the blood of Jesus.

I saw that in a video somewhere here a week or so ago where Trump said in one of his agenda47 videos he was going to go through the parks looking for people did you post that?
 

ZNP

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I saw that in a video somewhere here a week or so ago where Trump said in one of his agenda47 videos he was going to go through the parks looking for people did you post that?
no
 

Dude653

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There is nothing that you or anyone else can do. They know about preppers and will hunt them down. Why do you think there is this wasting disease around the country hitting deer? They know some will try and hide out in the woods, they are killing off the food supply same way we killed off the buffalo to get the Indians. You can fish, but it will be very easy for the drones and satellites to spot a fisherman.

This is why they are destroying the food supply and creating a famine, you will have to go to the government for food. Once you do that they will have complete control.

They will hunt down the people who don't. Why do you think we have these movies about hunting people, or the purge, or the zombie apocalypse? By law they must tell us what they are going to do. The goal is souls and you don't "sell your soul to the devil" unless it is a legally binding contract. But that is why there is no escape. The Lord will make every single person make a choice, Jesus or the Antichrist. There is no salvation in any other name than Jesus Christ, Lord of Lords and King of kings.

The only protection from what is coming is prayer under the blood of Jesus.
Cuckoo
 

tedincarolina

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A lot of supposition/speculation, but probably a kernel of truth here and there. I do firmly believe that the desire of the socialist liberals in this country is to turn our Nation into the United Socialist States of America, and to rewrite our Constitution into their Magna Carta.
Hi @p_rehbein

And yet, as I see it right now, it is the GOP that is pushing an agenda that might run us into rewriting our Constitution with their project 2025 agenda. While the liberals seem to be fairly ok with our governmental system. They know that as we, as a democratic nation, move closer to the day of Jesus' return that the approval of evil is going to be the norm, not the exception. That's according to what Paul wrote to us about the increase of sin in the world.

Of course, I'm one who believes that the United States is the beast that rises up out of the sea.
 

Cameron143

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Hi @p_rehbein

And yet, as I see it right now, it is the GOP that is pushing an agenda that might run us into rewriting our Constitution with their project 2025 agenda. While the liberals seem to be fairly ok with our governmental system. They know that as we, as a democratic nation, move closer to the day of Jesus' return that the approval of evil is going to be the norm, not the exception. That's according to what Paul wrote to us about the increase of sin in the world.

Of course, I'm one who believes that the United States is the beast that rises up out of the sea.
Have you read Project 25? What in there changes the Constitution?
Conservatives want to conserve or preserve the Constitution. We like the way it was written. We would like those who swear to uphold the laws to actually uphold them.
 

tedincarolina

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Have you read Project 25? What in there changes the Constitution?
Conservatives want to conserve or preserve the Constitution. We like the way it was written. We would like those who swear to uphold the laws to actually uphold them.
Hi @Cameron143

No, I haven't read all of it. We'll see.
 

Cameron143

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Hi @Cameron143

No, I haven't read all of it. We'll see.
It comes from a conservative think-tank. It's what you would expect from conservatives. Not really groundbreaking. Just a summary of conservative thought that many would like to see implemented.
 

tedincarolina

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It comes from a conservative think-tank. It's what you would expect from conservatives. Not really groundbreaking. Just a summary of conservative thought that many would like to see implemented.
Hi @Cameron143

We'll see. All I'm saying is that it sounds a lot more dangerous to me, in it's ability to create any change in our Constitution than anything that the liberals are doing. I haven't heard any of them talking about trying to change it. Yes, they squawk and quibble about a lot of the laws that are passed that they feel might harm their pursuit of life, liberty and happiness, but no one's talking about changing it.

One of the biggest issues that I see, is that they (project 2025) seem to want to put the federal government in charge of the election processes across the country. It is established in our government, and I believe it comes from the Constitution, that the states are responsible and hold authority over the election process within their state.

States and Elections Clause | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
 

tedincarolina

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The United States being the beast that rises up out of the sea.
:unsure::eek:

Where is that in scripture?

The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.
 

HeIsHere

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The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

Well this not an eschatology thread, but a better case can be made for this being "the Roman Empire" and not the USA.
We will leave it there.
 

tedincarolina

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Hi again @HeIsHere

I think most scholars of the Scriptures believe that the phrase 'coming out of the sea', to be a reference to all the people of the earth. The United States is the only nation on the earth right now, that actually proudly displays their heritage as being the culmination of many, many people from diverse places on the earth crossed the sea to build our great nation from that sea of people on the earth. We have Poles, Germans, Italians, Europeans, South and Central Americans, Asians and Africans. We have a sign on our front door stating that we seek people from every nation of the tired and huddled masses of humanity all over the earth... to come.

That, for me, is a pretty close approximation to a group of people coming out of the sea. Now, I'm not fully clear on the ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns. That the dragon gave the beast its power seems to be what most everyone is claiming of our legislative and executive bodies. That they are following and pushing godless agendas could certainly be seen as the dragon pushing those initiatives. I'm also not clear on the wound to the head, but I do see a possible connection to the destruction of the WTC. New York city and the U.S. have long been the financial power in the world and the WTC was the display of that financial power. I mean oil all over the world is still denominated in U.S. dollars. The financial power of the U.S. is quite powerful across the globe. So a wound to that 'head' the WTC in New York could be what this is referencing. But we have healed that wound and made everything right again as it was. That the whole world is filled with wonder and following after the beast can surely be seen by most as a representation of the power of the U.S. around the world. And I can't imagine that anyone denies that the U.S. is the one national power on the earth that people think it would be a fairly difficult task to make war against.

Then it speaks of the beast being given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise authority for forty-two months. If I'm correct in this, then at some point the U.S. is going become the place where the loudest in uttering proud words and blasphemies during some coming 42 month period live. Which likely corresponds to the 7 year period spoken of by the great prophet Daniel in which he says that in the middle of that period a covenant will be broken.

So, all I'm saying is to keep your eyes open. I know that the U.S. builds great pride in its people and even makes them stand and give allegiance to the nation and so we grow up with this idea that we're such a great, great people to be on the earth. But be careful. Because that same attitude is exactly what this prophecy describes.

And please, I'm not anti-American. I happen to enjoy the freedoms and government that our nation offers its people, but that doesn't blind me to the fact that God's word speaks of a beast rising up out of the sea, and as it stands right now at this moment, the U.S. is the best representation on the face of the earth that fills that bill. That is, of course, assuming that when the Scriptures speak of beasts on the earth, it's talking about nations. That seems to be the example from much of Daniel's work. He listed a number of beasts and they were all representative of nations rising up on the earth.