Do not vote for Trump

[hornetguy]

We don't elect presidents to be "Christ on earth".... we elect presidents to RUN THE COUNTRY to the betterment of its citizens.
sitting around singing kum ba yah and saying WWJD is NOT what a president is elected to do.

You need some serious growing up and maturing before trying to discuss politics with adults.

 

[Jeremy1973]

Just what I expected, snowflake. All noise, no substance.
Still waiting on your specific examples of EVERYTHING that Trump did in office being of Satan, or whatever other hyperbolic description you used. What a tool....

lol, if you loved Jesus as much as your demon, you'd almost be Christian.

Everything you listed violates the Mosaic Law, clown. Are you that ignorant you need it spelled out for you?

Forget I asked, lulz. Here's one for you, joo:

We don't elect presidents to be "Christ on earth".... we elect presidents to RUN THE COUNTRY to the betterment of its citizens.
sitting around singing kum ba yah and saying WWJD is NOT what a president is elected to do.

You need some serious growing up and maturing before trying to discuss politics with adults.

Wrong a "President" is one who presides for God. Guess George Washington is the liar, not Trump that told you voting is rigged. Keep telling yourself that.

 

[NewLifeInChrist]

We don't elect presidents to be "Christ on earth".... we elect presidents to RUN THE COUNTRY to the betterment of its citizens.
sitting around singing kum ba yah and saying WWJD is NOT what a president is elected to do.

You need some serious growing up and maturing before trying to discuss politics with adults.

It is astounding to me how anyone who says they love the Lord can stand for the demon inspired policies of the US left.

 

[hornetguy]

Everything you listed violates the Mosaic Law, clown.

Even IF what you stated was true (it wasn't) ....just a little clue here.... we as Christians do not live under Mosaic law...

You can, if you wish, but I prefer living in Christ, not the old law and prophets.

now, go play somewhere else, junior.

 

[Jimbone]

You may be right - the traditions of men and lukewarm Churchianity conflict with the Bible's clear-cut teachings.

No worries, Christ has foretold us all things. Cast your lots for devils, you're special to God.

Yeah but be real, you're here to sow division.

Rom 13
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority?

Is it not our calling as children of God to be the salt here? Are we not to bring His kingdom here? The God I serve is a victorious King, sitting on His throne at the right hand until ALL enemies have been made a footstool for His feet. He must reign until everything is under Him. What on earth is the point of coming here to say things you KNOW are sowing division. Are you not smart enough or empathetic enough to approach this in a much less confrontational manner?

I say this because the way you've approached this whole subject seems WAY more like you're trying to start trouble than it does you're trying to point our flaws you believe your brothers and sisters don't see. God is in control, if He wants Trump to lead, Trump will be leader again. If He doesn't then Trump won't. Make no mistake though, Kamala getting that power will be Gods judgement of a people who've turned away from Him.

 

[Jeremy1973]

we as Christians do not live under Mosaic law...

You can, if you wish, but I prefer living in Christ, not the old law and prophets.

The Messiah taught otherwise (not surprising as Orange Jesus is not the Christ):

Matthew 5 1-19; "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

See? You're LEAST in the Kingdom, meaning not in it.

...but I already know that, I've dealt with Mammon-lovers like yourself a long time.

Luke 6:46; "Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?"

 

[hornetguy]

The Messiah taught otherwise (not surprising as Orange Jesus is not the Christ):

Matthew 5 1-19; "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

See? You're LEAST in the Kingdom, meaning not in it.

...but I already know that, I've dealt with Mammon-lovers like yourself a long time.

Luke 6:46; "Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?"

17 “Do not presume that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill.

It's done... it was fulfilled with Jesus death and resurrection. I would think that a self-appointed "pastor" would know that...

and...

10 For all who are of works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all the things written in the book of the Law, to do them.” 11 Now, that no one is justified [n]by [o]the Law before God is evident; for, “[p]the righteous one will live by faith.” 12 [q]However, the Law is not [r]of faith; on the contrary, “The person who performs [s]them will live by [t]them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us—for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a [u]tree”— 14 in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham would come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

 

[Jeremy1973]

17 “Do not presume that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill.

It's done... it was fulfilled with Jesus death and resurrection. I would think that a self-appointed "pastor" would know that...

and...

10 For all who are of works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all the things written in the book of the Law, to do them.” 11 Now, that no one is justified [n]by [o]the Law before God is evident; for, “[p]the righteous one will live by faith.” 12 [q]However, the Law is not [r]of faith; on the contrary, “The person who performs [s]them will live by [t]them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us—for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a [u]tree”— 14 in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham would come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Fulfill means to "one up" or make stricter meaning he added two Laws, guess what they were? You missed this part: "law AND prophets" (both of which you said we're not under).

No, Jesus doesn't say it's okay to bear false witness, love money, murder nor serve other gods, lol. The lawless one Trump might, however.

He would know, He TAUGHT the Law you refuse to follow.

 

[HeIsHere]

lol, copy and paste from the internet - all pertaining to being a wage slave or the stock market racket (both of which benefit ZOG and global elitists like himself).

None of those are good, son. Try again - you know, something like using his billions to bring people to Christ, sharing the Gospel or simply feeding the hungry.

Perhaps find something that Christ commanded, rather than what benefits Trump's own love of money or outright oppresses the faithful?

I once met a street preacher like you, he taught that it was a sin to buy a coffee at Tim Horton's, that having pictures of landscapes on the wall was idolatry and only second hand clothes were acceptable.

He worked so hard at being righteous, such confidence at his ability to live above the fray... indeed no one else was Christian unless they met the standard he set.

He is still there preaching on that corner, he has made himself irrelevant, no one listens they walk past.

 

[HeIsHere]

Yeah but be real, you're here to sow division.

People who work at trying to fulfill the law or save themselves by their works become this way, have seen it so many times.

 

[Tall_Timbers]

Trump's got my vote. He earned last time he was in the White House. Hopefully he'll manage to right the ship a bit, though I know the entire deep state and global elite apparatus will be fighting him tooth and nail every step of the way.

 

[Jeremy1973]

People who work at trying to fulfill the law or save themselves by their works become this way, have seen it so many times.

Not at all - we're all saved by Grace through faith, not works.

Nobody said otherwise.

 

[HeIsHere]

Not at all - we're all saved by Grace through faith, not works.

Nobody said otherwise.

What happens if you violate the Mosaic Law?

Are you eternally saved or just temporarily saved?

 

[NewLifeInChrist]

People who work at trying to fulfill the law or save themselves by their works become this way, have seen it so many times.

I think when Christians place themselves under the law, the weight of the law becomes so burdensome that they just cannot stand to see others living free of its burdens. As a result, they become very judgemnetal. I've seen it many times myself.

 

[NewLifeInChrist]

Trump's got my vote. He earned last time he was in the White House. Hopefully he'll manage to right the ship a bit, though I know the entire deep state and global elite apparatus will be fighting him tooth and nail every step of the way.

I hope he is able to dismantle some of the deep state in his second 4-year term and pass on the torch to JD to finish the job over the next 8 years.

 

[Jeremy1973]

What happens if you violate the Mosaic Law?

Good question.

We are judged according to our works according to Rev 20:12; "I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."

If the sinner repents it's blotted out. We're not even commanded to "forgive" the unrepentant, much less God. If they repent, we HAVE to forgive them (to be forgiven ourselves).

God judges them, never man. Thank goodness He is merciful because man rarely is.

 

[HeIsHere]

Good question.

We are judged according to our works according to Rev 20:12; "I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."

If the sinner repents it's blotted out. We're not even commanded to "forgive" the unrepentant, much less God. If they repent, we HAVE to forgive them (to be forgiven ourselves).

God judges them, never man. Thank goodness He is merciful because man rarely is.

Not sure you really answered the first question and you definitely did not answer the second, are you shy?

 

[Jeremy1973]

Not sure you really answered the first question and you definitely did not answer the second, are you shy?

...but I did. Sin is defined as "a transgression of the law" (1 John 3:4) and only God can forgive our transgressions.

"Once saved, always saved" is disproven by the very passage I gave you. It comes down to repentance, obviously.

 

[Jimbone]

...but I did. Sin is defined as "a transgression of the law" (1 John 3:4) and only God can forgive our transgressions.

"Once saved, always saved" is disproven by the very passage I gave you. It comes down to repentance, obviously.

LOL, there is no once saved always saved debunking scripture. What are you talking about? You believe the power of our God can bring a man back to spiritual life, reconcile us to Himself again making the man a WHOLE NEW creation, and then that can be taken back from us? That we can be "unborn again"? I just want to be very clear in my understanding of your point here. You are saying that we can be born again in truth by the power of God, and then lose it, right?

 

[Jeremy1973]

LOL, there is no once saved always saved debunking scripture. What are you talking about? You believe the power of our God can bring a man back to spiritual life, reconcile us to Himself again making the man a WHOLE NEW creation, and then that can be taken back from us? That we can be "unborn again"? I just want to be very clear in my understanding of your point here. You are saying that we can be born again in truth by the power of God, and then lose it, right?

If man is judged by their works towards others as even Christ taught (Matthew 25:40) then obviously we can go from being saved to condemned by not repenting of our sins against out follow man (for example: murder, adultery, false witness, etc).

Am I speaking koine Greek here or something?

Yes, it's scriptural - see Psalm 6:8 and Luke 13:27.