Do we know how Yeshua lived his life?
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The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, “God loves us all” otherwise, Son would not have gone to that cross. To first, reconcile all as forgiven. Which brings no new life to flesh and blood. It is the risen life that gets explained to the disciples, after Christ is risen, then Pentecost. Starts in Acts 1, right after the end of Luke. Luke writes Acts.
however, you are preaching a half sham gospel. You go ahead, not me. Have a blessed life
God is not the God of the dead, evil is that, not God
love to you
however, you are preaching a half sham gospel. You go ahead, not me. Have a blessed life
God is not the God of the dead, evil is that, not God
love to you
As you wish. However I do use only scripture to teach. Our words are nothing more than our understanding by the use of logic to come to a conclusion.
Rev 14:12This means that God's holy people must endure persecution patiently, obeying his commands and maintaining their faith in Jesus.
As you can sse even in the Rev. of Yeshua we are told to follow the Law. However if you wish to use scripture to try and nullify scripture, I willl pray that haShem brings light and clarity to your heart and mind. I am glad you have decide to move on, as I have little patients with anyone that wishes to try and work both side of the fence. It shows a true lack of understanding, and a desire to life in sin with no condemnation for HaShem. Good luck with that.
Rev 14:12This means that God's holy people must endure persecution patiently, obeying his commands and maintaining their faith in Jesus.
As you can sse even in the Rev. of Yeshua we are told to follow the Law. However if you wish to use scripture to try and nullify scripture, I willl pray that haShem brings light and clarity to your heart and mind. I am glad you have decide to move on, as I have little patients with anyone that wishes to try and work both side of the fence. It shows a true lack of understanding, and a desire to life in sin with no condemnation for HaShem. Good luck with that.
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Jhn 12:37But despite all the miraculous signs Jesus had done, most of the people still did not believe in him.
Jhn 12:38This is exactly what Isaiah the prophet had predicted:
"LORD, who has believed our message? To whom has the LORD revealed his powerful arm?"
Jhn 12:39But the people couldn't believe, for as Isaiah also said,
Jhn 12:40"The Lord has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts— so that their eyes cannot see, and their hearts cannot understand, and they cannot turn to me and have me heal them."
Do we find it sad that when they think about the passage given BY them, that they simply can't see it is about them? We do, then we also find it sad that in the Torah the people turned away from HaShem even after all He did for them. We humans are so silly, that we forget the true word in favor of our own wants, and hopes.
Jhn 12:41Isaiah was referring to Jesus when he said this, because he saw the future and spoke of the Messiah's glory.
Jhn 12:42Many people did believe in him, however, including some of the Jewish leaders. But they wouldn't admit it for fear that the Pharisees would expel them from the synagogue.
Jhn 12:43For they loved human praise more than the praise of God.
I ask this with pure intent. Do we hide behind religious rhetoric when we speak? We know that the leaders, (most likely meaning members of the Sanhedrin ) were so worried about being cast out that they had no courage to stand up for what is true. Did that help their salvation or hurt it? Having a understanding is one thing, playing like you do is another altogether.
Jhn 12:44Jesus shouted to the crowds, "If you trust me, you are trusting not only me, but also God who sent me.
Jhn 12:45For when you see me, you are seeing the one who sent me.
Jhn 12:46I have come as a light to shine in this dark world, so that all who put their trust in me will no longer remain in the dark.
Jhn 12:47I will not judge those who hear me but don't obey me, for I have come to save the world and not to judge it.
Jhn 12:48But all who reject me and my message will be judged on the day of judgment by the truth I have spoken.
Yeshua is clear that we are going to be juded by His teachings, Not Paul's, not the church you attend, and surely not ours. Yet if we don't understand Yeshua's teachings how can we say we know Him? If we wish to use any teacher we read about in the Bible, on here, or in church to negate the teachings we will be judged by, is there any hope for us?
Jhn 12:49I don't speak on my own authority. The Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to say it.
Jhn 12:50And I know his commands lead to eternal life; so I say whatever the Father tells me to say."
Here we see Yeshua telling us that the Laws of HaShem lead to eternal life. So what does it do when we push against them? After all when we try to remove them, do we not also remove salvation? Not my words on that topic, that comes from the teachings of Yeshua.
Jhn 12:38This is exactly what Isaiah the prophet had predicted:
"LORD, who has believed our message? To whom has the LORD revealed his powerful arm?"
Jhn 12:39But the people couldn't believe, for as Isaiah also said,
Jhn 12:40"The Lord has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts— so that their eyes cannot see, and their hearts cannot understand, and they cannot turn to me and have me heal them."
Do we find it sad that when they think about the passage given BY them, that they simply can't see it is about them? We do, then we also find it sad that in the Torah the people turned away from HaShem even after all He did for them. We humans are so silly, that we forget the true word in favor of our own wants, and hopes.
Jhn 12:41Isaiah was referring to Jesus when he said this, because he saw the future and spoke of the Messiah's glory.
Jhn 12:42Many people did believe in him, however, including some of the Jewish leaders. But they wouldn't admit it for fear that the Pharisees would expel them from the synagogue.
Jhn 12:43For they loved human praise more than the praise of God.
I ask this with pure intent. Do we hide behind religious rhetoric when we speak? We know that the leaders, (most likely meaning members of the Sanhedrin ) were so worried about being cast out that they had no courage to stand up for what is true. Did that help their salvation or hurt it? Having a understanding is one thing, playing like you do is another altogether.
Jhn 12:44Jesus shouted to the crowds, "If you trust me, you are trusting not only me, but also God who sent me.
Jhn 12:45For when you see me, you are seeing the one who sent me.
Jhn 12:46I have come as a light to shine in this dark world, so that all who put their trust in me will no longer remain in the dark.
Jhn 12:47I will not judge those who hear me but don't obey me, for I have come to save the world and not to judge it.
Jhn 12:48But all who reject me and my message will be judged on the day of judgment by the truth I have spoken.
Yeshua is clear that we are going to be juded by His teachings, Not Paul's, not the church you attend, and surely not ours. Yet if we don't understand Yeshua's teachings how can we say we know Him? If we wish to use any teacher we read about in the Bible, on here, or in church to negate the teachings we will be judged by, is there any hope for us?
Jhn 12:49I don't speak on my own authority. The Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to say it.
Jhn 12:50And I know his commands lead to eternal life; so I say whatever the Father tells me to say."
Here we see Yeshua telling us that the Laws of HaShem lead to eternal life. So what does it do when we push against them? After all when we try to remove them, do we not also remove salvation? Not my words on that topic, that comes from the teachings of Yeshua.
Jhn 13:1Before the Passover celebration, Jesus knew that his hour had come to leave this world and return to his Father. He had loved his disciples during his ministry on earth, and now he loved them to the very end.
Jhn 13:2It was time for supper, and the devil had already prompted Judas, son of Simon Iscariot, to betray Jesus.
Jhn 13:3Jesus knew that the Father had given him authority over everything and that he had come from God and would return to God.
Jhn 13:4So he got up from the table, took off his robe, wrapped a towel around his waist,
Jhn 13:5and poured water into a basin. Then he began to wash the disciples' feet, drying them with the towel he had around him.
When Yeshua washed the feet of His desiples He showed us the true meaning of being humble. One can only lead in truth, and strength when they are willing to serve more than their own desires. It is never easy to turn away from a posision of power, and serve those around you. Even harder for some, is to let your leader humble them self before you.
Jhn 13:6When Jesus came to Simon Peter, Peter said to him, "Lord, are you going to wash my feet?"
Jhn 13:7Jesus replied, "You don't understand now what I am doing, but someday you will."
Jhn 13:8"No," Peter protested, "you will never ever wash my feet!"
Jesus replied, "Unless I wash you, you won't belong to me."
Yeshua was speaking of more than washing Peter's feet. As we should know that we are washed in the blood of Yeshua, or more to the point, Yeshua washes away our past sins. It is His blood that frees us from our past, and makes us. Now keep in mind that once free of our past, we are not some how made so perfect that we never sin again. That is why we must pray for forgiveness continually. We came across something form the Sages, that is to the point on this. It goes as follows,
" Even the most rightouse of men sin 3 times a day. " Be it known or unknown to us. So let us all be willing to let Yeshua wash us everyday, and in return, give Him to glory for His mighty work.
Jhn 13:9Simon Peter exclaimed, "Then wash my hands and head as well, Lord, not just my feet!"
Jhn 13:10Jesus replied, "A person who has bathed all over does not need to wash, except for the feet, to be entirely clean. And you disciples are clean, but not all of you."
When we look back at the laws pertaining to the High priest we find that they to wash their hands and feet, before entering the Temple. You see they went through a mikvah. This may be where what we know as baptism comes from. As Yeshua made clear once you have washed your body, there is no need to repeat the act. Now don't go around unwashed from now on, or others will start to avoid you like covid. LOL When speaking of this and others like it, we must keep in mind it speaking of the spiritual not the physical.
Jhn 13:11For Jesus knew who would betray him. That is what he meant when he said, "Not all of you are clean."
Jhn 13:12After washing their feet, he put on his robe again and sat down and asked, "Do you understand what I was doing?
Jhn 13:13You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord,' and you are right, because that's what I am.
Jhn 13:14And since I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you ought to wash each other's feet.
Just as we would tell our blood sisters and brothers when they do something wrong, we must also do so for our spiritual family. If we see sin some ones life, we are to let it be known. If they are unwilling to change their life, and turn back to Yeshua, and walk in all that HaShem has commanded us, they are cut off. We should distance ourselves from them. That may sound wrong to many of you, however as Torah makes clear, we do so to avoid being lead down the wrong road. Does this mean stop praying for them, not at all. Does it mean to stop making known their sin, no, it simply means we should not make a point of not being around their sin.
Jhn 13:2It was time for supper, and the devil had already prompted Judas, son of Simon Iscariot, to betray Jesus.
Jhn 13:3Jesus knew that the Father had given him authority over everything and that he had come from God and would return to God.
Jhn 13:4So he got up from the table, took off his robe, wrapped a towel around his waist,
Jhn 13:5and poured water into a basin. Then he began to wash the disciples' feet, drying them with the towel he had around him.
When Yeshua washed the feet of His desiples He showed us the true meaning of being humble. One can only lead in truth, and strength when they are willing to serve more than their own desires. It is never easy to turn away from a posision of power, and serve those around you. Even harder for some, is to let your leader humble them self before you.
Jhn 13:6When Jesus came to Simon Peter, Peter said to him, "Lord, are you going to wash my feet?"
Jhn 13:7Jesus replied, "You don't understand now what I am doing, but someday you will."
Jhn 13:8"No," Peter protested, "you will never ever wash my feet!"
Jesus replied, "Unless I wash you, you won't belong to me."
Yeshua was speaking of more than washing Peter's feet. As we should know that we are washed in the blood of Yeshua, or more to the point, Yeshua washes away our past sins. It is His blood that frees us from our past, and makes us. Now keep in mind that once free of our past, we are not some how made so perfect that we never sin again. That is why we must pray for forgiveness continually. We came across something form the Sages, that is to the point on this. It goes as follows,
" Even the most rightouse of men sin 3 times a day. " Be it known or unknown to us. So let us all be willing to let Yeshua wash us everyday, and in return, give Him to glory for His mighty work.
Jhn 13:9Simon Peter exclaimed, "Then wash my hands and head as well, Lord, not just my feet!"
Jhn 13:10Jesus replied, "A person who has bathed all over does not need to wash, except for the feet, to be entirely clean. And you disciples are clean, but not all of you."
When we look back at the laws pertaining to the High priest we find that they to wash their hands and feet, before entering the Temple. You see they went through a mikvah. This may be where what we know as baptism comes from. As Yeshua made clear once you have washed your body, there is no need to repeat the act. Now don't go around unwashed from now on, or others will start to avoid you like covid. LOL When speaking of this and others like it, we must keep in mind it speaking of the spiritual not the physical.
Jhn 13:11For Jesus knew who would betray him. That is what he meant when he said, "Not all of you are clean."
Jhn 13:12After washing their feet, he put on his robe again and sat down and asked, "Do you understand what I was doing?
Jhn 13:13You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord,' and you are right, because that's what I am.
Jhn 13:14And since I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you ought to wash each other's feet.
Just as we would tell our blood sisters and brothers when they do something wrong, we must also do so for our spiritual family. If we see sin some ones life, we are to let it be known. If they are unwilling to change their life, and turn back to Yeshua, and walk in all that HaShem has commanded us, they are cut off. We should distance ourselves from them. That may sound wrong to many of you, however as Torah makes clear, we do so to avoid being lead down the wrong road. Does this mean stop praying for them, not at all. Does it mean to stop making known their sin, no, it simply means we should not make a point of not being around their sin.
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Jhn 13:15I have given you an example to follow. Do as I have done to you.
Jhn 13:16I tell you the truth, slaves are not greater than their master. Nor is the messenger more important than the one who sends the message.
It is sad that when it comes to Yeshua, He is often seen as less than Paul. Yet Paul is nothing more than a messenger, and the message he brings comes from Yeshua. So why is it that when we try to place the focus on Yeshua, some simply can't find their way to keep it there? I once asked someone if Paul had more authority that Yeshua, and sadly I got a YES kind of answer.
Jhn 13:17Now that you know these things, God will bless you for doing them.
Doing what? Oddly Yeshua may have been speaking of all that He taught. In the way He lived, as well as His faith. Yet some say that it has to only with the washing of feet. Both do hold truth, as here Yeshua was speaking of His action at that time. Yet He also leaves us the idea that He is to be the example by which we must do our best to follow.
Jhn 13:18"I am not saying these things to all of you; I know the ones I have chosen. But this fulfills the Scripture that says, 'The one who eats my food has turned against me.
Jhn 13:19I tell you this beforehand, so that when it happens you will believe that I AM the Messiah.
Jhn 13:20I tell you the truth, anyone who welcomes my messenger is welcoming me, and anyone who welcomes me is welcoming the Father who sent me."
I understand that someone will come along and say that I don't welcome Paul, so that makes it clear I don't follow the teachings of Yeshua. That however is wrong. You see on this site you can find that we did an in depth study on Paul. What I don't welcome has always been the use of Paul to negate the teachings of Yeshua. As I am sure anyone following this thread has seen.
Jhn 13:21Now Jesus was deeply troubled, and he exclaimed, "I tell you the truth, one of you will betray me!"
Jhn 13:22The disciples looked at each other, wondering whom he could mean.
Jhn 13:23The disciple Jesus loved was sitting next to Jesus at the table.
Jhn 13:24Simon Peter motioned to him to ask, "Who's he talking about?"
Jhn 13:25So that disciple leaned over to Jesus and asked, "Lord, who is it?"
Jhn 13:26Jesus responded, "It is the one to whom I give the bread I dip in the bowl." And when he had dipped it, he gave it to Judas, son of Simon Iscariot.
Jhn 13:27When Judas had eaten the bread, Satan entered into him. Then Jesus told him, "Hurry and do what you're going to do."
Jhn 13:28None of the others at the table knew what Jesus meant.
As is made clear here, even though the disciples were right there, and had just heard that the one Yeshua gave the bread to was the one, they still didn't understand. Yet in all our pride and desire to be right at all cost, some act as though they hold all the answers. This is the reason we try to remind others that what we THINK we know, can be wrong. If we don't remain humble, and understand that we don't know it all, we lose.
many times in life, we think we know something, and find out later that we really had no idea. Yet when it comes to things we thought we once understood, then learned that it was wrong, it is almost imposable to drag that person back into ideas they have left behind. I know this first hand, as I was once a follower of the Paulin doctrine. I thought that Paul did teach against the Law, and even corrected some of the things Yeshua had said. It is easy to go down that path if one doesn't take time to learn about the teachings of Yeshua.
As I learned more about the teachings of Yeshua, it became clear that to really understand Paul, one must first understand Yeshua. To do that, one must really open their hearts to sunding His teachings, and actions. Though I have placed limits on us in this study, one can still get a better understanding of His, His life, and teachings. Though if one really wants to open their understanding, they must first get a little understanding of Torah.
Jhn 13:16I tell you the truth, slaves are not greater than their master. Nor is the messenger more important than the one who sends the message.
It is sad that when it comes to Yeshua, He is often seen as less than Paul. Yet Paul is nothing more than a messenger, and the message he brings comes from Yeshua. So why is it that when we try to place the focus on Yeshua, some simply can't find their way to keep it there? I once asked someone if Paul had more authority that Yeshua, and sadly I got a YES kind of answer.
Jhn 13:17Now that you know these things, God will bless you for doing them.
Doing what? Oddly Yeshua may have been speaking of all that He taught. In the way He lived, as well as His faith. Yet some say that it has to only with the washing of feet. Both do hold truth, as here Yeshua was speaking of His action at that time. Yet He also leaves us the idea that He is to be the example by which we must do our best to follow.
Jhn 13:18"I am not saying these things to all of you; I know the ones I have chosen. But this fulfills the Scripture that says, 'The one who eats my food has turned against me.
Jhn 13:19I tell you this beforehand, so that when it happens you will believe that I AM the Messiah.
Jhn 13:20I tell you the truth, anyone who welcomes my messenger is welcoming me, and anyone who welcomes me is welcoming the Father who sent me."
I understand that someone will come along and say that I don't welcome Paul, so that makes it clear I don't follow the teachings of Yeshua. That however is wrong. You see on this site you can find that we did an in depth study on Paul. What I don't welcome has always been the use of Paul to negate the teachings of Yeshua. As I am sure anyone following this thread has seen.
Jhn 13:21Now Jesus was deeply troubled, and he exclaimed, "I tell you the truth, one of you will betray me!"
Jhn 13:22The disciples looked at each other, wondering whom he could mean.
Jhn 13:23The disciple Jesus loved was sitting next to Jesus at the table.
Jhn 13:24Simon Peter motioned to him to ask, "Who's he talking about?"
Jhn 13:25So that disciple leaned over to Jesus and asked, "Lord, who is it?"
Jhn 13:26Jesus responded, "It is the one to whom I give the bread I dip in the bowl." And when he had dipped it, he gave it to Judas, son of Simon Iscariot.
Jhn 13:27When Judas had eaten the bread, Satan entered into him. Then Jesus told him, "Hurry and do what you're going to do."
Jhn 13:28None of the others at the table knew what Jesus meant.
As is made clear here, even though the disciples were right there, and had just heard that the one Yeshua gave the bread to was the one, they still didn't understand. Yet in all our pride and desire to be right at all cost, some act as though they hold all the answers. This is the reason we try to remind others that what we THINK we know, can be wrong. If we don't remain humble, and understand that we don't know it all, we lose.
many times in life, we think we know something, and find out later that we really had no idea. Yet when it comes to things we thought we once understood, then learned that it was wrong, it is almost imposable to drag that person back into ideas they have left behind. I know this first hand, as I was once a follower of the Paulin doctrine. I thought that Paul did teach against the Law, and even corrected some of the things Yeshua had said. It is easy to go down that path if one doesn't take time to learn about the teachings of Yeshua.
As I learned more about the teachings of Yeshua, it became clear that to really understand Paul, one must first understand Yeshua. To do that, one must really open their hearts to sunding His teachings, and actions. Though I have placed limits on us in this study, one can still get a better understanding of His, His life, and teachings. Though if one really wants to open their understanding, they must first get a little understanding of Torah.
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Wow, really, I guess others can put others in front of others. I do not see God Father ever doing that, being a no respecter of persons.
to me, God Father and Son are equals. We =, those that are born again are equals too. Once new life comes through. It is not robbery to be equal with God by Son for us, that began at the crucifixion, made real inthe resurrection.
Paul and Son with Father are not against each other. Made equals as born again by God Father, now our Father as said to Mary in John 20
thank you for being clearer in the belief given you to see the truth of the Law is God’s love of 1 Cor 13:4-7,to me, that Father to me inputs to who he chooses too impute, knowing each persons motive
to me, God Father and Son are equals. We =, those that are born again are equals too. Once new life comes through. It is not robbery to be equal with God by Son for us, that began at the crucifixion, made real inthe resurrection.
Paul and Son with Father are not against each other. Made equals as born again by God Father, now our Father as said to Mary in John 20
thank you for being clearer in the belief given you to see the truth of the Law is God’s love of 1 Cor 13:4-7,to me, that Father to me inputs to who he chooses too impute, knowing each persons motive
Agreed, I am, yet made his Son, as you are as well, by his Son as risen, where new life is given, not ever earned. Learning new daily, standing in trust. Col. 1:21-23 God does simply continue to love us all. Not always seen as such, yet that remains true to me, even though I have gone through troubles too, as I bet you have too
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Jhn 13:28None of the others at the table knew what Jesus meant.
Jhn 13:29Since Judas was their treasurer, some thought Jesus was telling him to go and pay for the food or to give some money to the poor.
Jhn 13:30So Judas left at once, going out into the night.
As we can see, the hearts of the 11 disciples seem to have had a bad thought about Judas. This should place in our minds a pure heart, and mind. Where as to day, there would be lots of bad things through the minds of most. That has more to do with the way we see things. Like anyone, we live what we learn from our mom and dad. That is until we find a better way, and find a fuller understanding. Don't get me wrong, if we walk around blind to the evil in this world, we may find our selves in a bad place.
Jhn 13:31As soon as Judas left the room, Jesus said, "The time has come for the Son of Man to enter into his glory, and God will be glorified because of him.
Jhn 13:32And since God receives glory because of the Son, he will soon give glory to the Son.
What is the glory that Yeshua will be given? There are a lot of answers to this, yet not one person can say they are 100% correct. That said, we feel that His glory will be His reign over all the earth. As well as Him being the high priest forever. Both will be a great honor.
Jhn 13:33Dear children, I will be with you only a little longer. And as I told the Jewish leaders, you will search for me, but you can't come where I am going.
Jhn 13:34So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other.
Although some say this isn't a new commandment, it is. You see in the Torah we are told love our neighbors as we love our selves. Here we are told to love one another as Yeshua loved us. As we know from His teachings there is no greater love than one who lays down his life for a friend. However with this new commandment I ask, would you lay down your life for a stranger?
Jhn 13:36Simon Peter asked, "Lord, where are you going?"
And Jesus replied, "You can't go with me now, but you will follow me later."
Jhn 13:37"But why can't I come now, Lord?" he asked. "I'm ready to die for you."
Jhn 13:38Jesus answered, "Die for me? I tell you the truth, Peter—before the rooster crows tomorrow morning, you will deny three times that you even know me.
As we see Peter was told of his failure before it came about. However as we seek to understand this, we face some challenges.
First, we know that Yeshua said, "If we deny Him, He will also deny us. So will Yeshua deny Peter? Odds are that is a sound NO.
Second, Why is it that one may think Peter will not be denied? Is there something about Peter that the rest don't have? Again NO. Peter simply asked forgiveness, and went on to do Yeshua's work. Just as we must find in our own way how we are called to do His work. Before one can do that, they must understand the word, and put it's pricabils to work in our own lives. Please note, we can't be about HIs will, if we flatly refuse to except the teachings of Yeshua, as well as His faith, and way of life. If we think that teaching, as many do, that one passage has the power to negate another, we have missed the true teachings of the Word.
Jhn 13:29Since Judas was their treasurer, some thought Jesus was telling him to go and pay for the food or to give some money to the poor.
Jhn 13:30So Judas left at once, going out into the night.
As we can see, the hearts of the 11 disciples seem to have had a bad thought about Judas. This should place in our minds a pure heart, and mind. Where as to day, there would be lots of bad things through the minds of most. That has more to do with the way we see things. Like anyone, we live what we learn from our mom and dad. That is until we find a better way, and find a fuller understanding. Don't get me wrong, if we walk around blind to the evil in this world, we may find our selves in a bad place.
Jhn 13:31As soon as Judas left the room, Jesus said, "The time has come for the Son of Man to enter into his glory, and God will be glorified because of him.
Jhn 13:32And since God receives glory because of the Son, he will soon give glory to the Son.
What is the glory that Yeshua will be given? There are a lot of answers to this, yet not one person can say they are 100% correct. That said, we feel that His glory will be His reign over all the earth. As well as Him being the high priest forever. Both will be a great honor.
Jhn 13:33Dear children, I will be with you only a little longer. And as I told the Jewish leaders, you will search for me, but you can't come where I am going.
Jhn 13:34So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other.
Although some say this isn't a new commandment, it is. You see in the Torah we are told love our neighbors as we love our selves. Here we are told to love one another as Yeshua loved us. As we know from His teachings there is no greater love than one who lays down his life for a friend. However with this new commandment I ask, would you lay down your life for a stranger?
Jhn 13:36Simon Peter asked, "Lord, where are you going?"
And Jesus replied, "You can't go with me now, but you will follow me later."
Jhn 13:37"But why can't I come now, Lord?" he asked. "I'm ready to die for you."
Jhn 13:38Jesus answered, "Die for me? I tell you the truth, Peter—before the rooster crows tomorrow morning, you will deny three times that you even know me.
As we see Peter was told of his failure before it came about. However as we seek to understand this, we face some challenges.
First, we know that Yeshua said, "If we deny Him, He will also deny us. So will Yeshua deny Peter? Odds are that is a sound NO.
Second, Why is it that one may think Peter will not be denied? Is there something about Peter that the rest don't have? Again NO. Peter simply asked forgiveness, and went on to do Yeshua's work. Just as we must find in our own way how we are called to do His work. Before one can do that, they must understand the word, and put it's pricabils to work in our own lives. Please note, we can't be about HIs will, if we flatly refuse to except the teachings of Yeshua, as well as His faith, and way of life. If we think that teaching, as many do, that one passage has the power to negate another, we have missed the true teachings of the Word.
If has became clear that many simply don't understand Paul's teachings. So the purpose of this thread, Paul is being excluded. You see, once one finds they can't back their ideas with only Yeshua as the primary teacher, they may find the need to rethink what they think know about Paul. So I will not entertain Paul. In other words, I won't let Paul be used to discrete the teachings of Yeshua.
Agreed, me, I have died numerous times. I would not deny God and to this day will not, I can not explain it, I just stand in this trust to God, loves us all. proven to me in Son as risen, that is revealed to me to stand in, no matter what troubles come, as I see you doing this too
Thank you, ultimately to God and for your posts God leads you to post
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