Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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It takes a special type of Leftist to criticize someone for wearing a bandage on your ear where you were shot after amazingly avoiding having your head blown off by an assassin.
We are looking at pure evil which now pervades the Democrats and the Leftists. Satan and his demons have taken control of them because they rejected God. Hatred for Trump and America originated with Satan.

Now Donald Trump needs to get truly saved, and then he needs to seek wisdom from on high. God spared him to bring him to repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. His "spiritual advisers" have all failed him, and so have his political advisers.
 

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BREAKING NOW: Jamie Raskin claims Congress will STOP TRUMP on J6, 2025 and create “civil war conditions.”

Will use the 14th Amendment..
 

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BREAKING NOW: Jamie Raskin claims Congress will STOP TRUMP on J6, 2025 and create “civil war conditions.”

Will use the 14th Amendment..
Well I am more interested in what God is claiming.
 

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We are looking at pure evil which now pervades the Democrats and the Leftists. Satan and his demons have taken control of them because they rejected God. Hatred for Trump and America originated with Satan.

Now Donald Trump needs to get truly saved, and then he needs to seek wisdom from on high. God spared him to bring him to repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. His "spiritual advisers" have all failed him, and so have his political advisers.
yes, he need to get on board, and stop being a person who believes in God, and put faith and trust in Christ....
 
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@ChuckCallesto BREAKING NOW: Jamie Raskin claims Congress will STOP TRUMP on J6, 2025 and create “civil war conditions.” Will use the 14th Amendment..
More evidence of pure evil. Now that they could not lock him up or assassinate him, they will abuse the Constitution to stop Trump.

Here is what Section 3 of the 14th Amendment says:
Section 3
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Did Trump engage in insurrection? Absolutely not. Even those patriots locked up in the DC Gulag did not engage in insurrection. And the whole phony narrative of Liz Cheney has already been exposed. So what do Raskin, Schumer and all those evil men think? Will the resurrect this lie to "get Trump"?

Did Trump engage in rebellion? Or was it Pence, Barr, and all the other enemies of Trump who engaged in rebellion against a legitimate president?

Did Trump give aid and comfort to the enemies of the USA or was it Joe Biden and Kamala Harris who engaged in this treason? Who is holding them accountable?

So now the Constitution is being used unconstitutional for attacking Trump while the Supreme Court stands by. Just like the government and the judiciary were weaponized against Trump. But God is still sovereign and He can take down evildoers at any time.
 
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That may be their ambition but it will not happen. If anything, the trend worldwide at present is Communistic Fascism (including the USA).

There is a huge movement in the UK right now by ordinary citizens to oppose mass illegal immigration. So how does the government respond?

UK REBELLION UNDERWAY: Government Declares War on Its Own Citizens Pushing Back Against UN’s Great Replacement Plan — Sunday Night Live
UK REBELLION UNDERWAY: Government Declares War on Its Own Citizens Pushing Back Against UN’s Great Replacement Plan — Sunday Night Live (infowars.com)

I'm not really sure how to take this because Biblically Paul describes in 2 Thess. 2 that that man of sin would sit in the Temple and claim to be God and to claim all that is worshiped showing himself to be God. So I cant see fascism or communism where they don't acknowledge God or the Creator similar to the things the Democrats are promoting as whats going to take place. Instead I think they will loose support at some point and type of religious one world religion and government taking over.
 
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Actually, I wouldn't know what SMM or NAR are without looking them up though I may have done so in the past. I did read and listen to Greg Bahnsen and some of his contemporaries, did a lot of reading on Law some time ago and had several online discussions re: Theonomy. The concept of "By What Standard" made sense to me and still does, but the discussions I was involved in came from the mindset that we would have an awful lot of work to do in trying to understand God's Law more comprehensively.

So, back to "By What Standard" - if not God's Law properly understood, then what are we left with?

Ive never heard of Greg Bahnsen but I looked him up and read a little after you mentioned him. I grew up going to Churches that were preterite Amil. but outgrew that and was baptized in Huntsville at a Pentecostal Church. I went also to the old Pearland Tabernacle in the 80's and Spring Tabernacle in Spring Texas. I don't think they are there anymore or they divided and are different now. My father passed away and so I just finished moving from Austin to East Texas and haven't looked for a Church yet to attend.
 
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I didn't really word that correctly, how I should have phrased it is....

... do you think (as you personally) believe this is a possible reality, that a small minority of Christians could install by force a government where Christians maintain a privileged position and exert the most power?
I believe they think Trump is the "arm" that can do the things they want to see done.
 
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The Latter Rain movement was a name from the 40's -70's or 80's but maybe even later today most refer to it as the Third Wave of the Holy Spirit. The Second Wave was the transition during the 60's to 80's.
Can you be more specific here? To say a Pentecostal Movement paints a very wide brush. But my Grandfather was the first Jew to convert to follow Christ within my Family and we've been Pentecostal ever since. And us Jews stick strictly to the connection of Yeshua to the Tanakh so no new thing like what you speak about has ever been discussed in my lifetime. Is their a specific Pentecostal Church that you are referring to here?
 
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Many Baptists left the Southern Baptist Convention when they left the word of God.
The ones I am friends with left because there's about 2,000 claims of Pastor sexual abuse with congregation and the SBC tried to hide it. It's now common knowledge that immediately is searchable if you Google the Topic.
 
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Can you be more specific here? To say a Pentecostal Movement paints a very wide brush. But my Grandfather was the first Jew to convert to follow Christ within my Family and we've been Pentecostal ever since. And us Jews stick strictly to the connection of Yeshua to the Tanakh so no new thing like what you speak about has ever been discussed in my lifetime. Is their a specific Pentecostal Church that you are referring to here?
No and Please don't misunderstand me. Although many charismatic type Church groups may be supporters of the New Apostolic Reformation or Seven Mountain Mandate type doctrines promoting Dominionism that does not mean that every Pentecostal(I don't) endorse it. They may not even be Pentecostal they may be non denominational Baptist or AOG but the term New Apostolic Reformation does not denote a certain denomination instead it is a movement within Christianity that believes that they are the third wave of Apostles and that God has told them to rise up and take "dominion" over the earth as in dominion over the earth in Genesis. In basic they see that they are in the third wave of the Holy Spirit being poured out and that just the same as in Acts 2 there are Apostles here now on earth and that they are to be over the Church deacons, teachers ect.(five fold min.) and the governments.
 
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https://narconnections.com/ if you look at this it explains who they see as the Apostles and who are the others.
Many of those Prophets claim to be MAGA Prophets like Johnny Enlow who has made hundreds of Prophesies and none have ever came true. He takes credit for Trump being elected in 2016 as one of his Prophesies but since then the dude couldn't guess it was raining if the clouds turned to rain clouds. There several more on that list. Are you connecting Trump to NAR?
 
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Many of those Prophets claim to be MAGA Prophets like Johnny Enlow who has made hundreds of Prophesies and none have ever came true. He takes credit for Trump being elected in 2016 as one of his Prophesies but since then the dude couldn't guess it was raining if the clouds turned to rain clouds. There several more on that list. Are you connecting Trump to NAR?

Well not actually NAR supports both parties sort of like looking for a mule strong enough to plow the whole field so Enlow saying this is like saying Trump seemed to be the mule to use. Listen to the very end of this NAR video and they even laugh that some supported Trump but others Obama. The issue to NAR is though that politics is nothing more than a horse to ride to town.
 

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Ive never heard of Greg Bahnsen but I looked him up and read a little after you mentioned him. I grew up going to Churches that were preterite Amil. but outgrew that and was baptized in Huntsville at a Pentecostal Church. I went also to the old Pearland Tabernacle in the 80's and Spring Tabernacle in Spring Texas. I don't think they are there anymore or they divided and are different now. My father passed away and so I just finished moving from Austin to East Texas and haven't looked for a Church yet to attend.
This is why we need to define or explain our words. Dominionism, for instance means, different things to different people. Honestly, I wouldn't want most or any of these groups in leadership any more than I want the lawless dems in the position.

Having observed the political arena enough over the past several decades while redeeming most of my time studying the Word, IMO we are in an advanced stage of judgment taking place. If I start with Bush Jr., it was evident to me that many were being turned over to their reprobate (of no value) minds. During obama it had advanced to lack of capacity for thought. Now it's pretty much full-blown insanity, madness, with evil in place of good.

IMO this is not man-solvable and we're watching the judgment of God taking place before our eyes. How bad it gets is the question.