Climate Change

[Nehemiah6]

Why is this in the Bible Discussion Forum?

Yes. I was hoping the mods would move it to the Conspiracy ans Coruption Forum. Climate Alarmism is a conspiracy to destroy everything and everyone. But since it here, let's look at some more actual data that refutes and debunks Climate Change and Climate Alarmism.

Temperature Data Refutes Global Warming Claims — Government Data (infowars.com)
An analysis conducted by Chris Martz and reported by Climate Depot using temperature data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has found insignificant increases in global average temperatures between 1895 and 2023.

When you view the chart the temperate has fluctuated only between 50 F and 55 F over a period of 125 years.

 

[Burn1986]

The crazy thing about the climate changers is that they believe the earth is trillions of years old and in the last little sliver of our time. All the sudden there is catastrophic global warming…

 

[Omegatime]

The crazy thing about the climate changers is that they believe the earth is trillions of years old and in the last little sliver of our time. All the sudden there is catastrophic global warming…

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Why I started this thread. So many try to remove our Lord from the environmental events on earth.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Why I started this thread. So many try to remove our Lord from the environmental events on earth.

All Christians understand that God controls nature, including the environment. Perhaps unbelievers do not acknowledge this. But God rejects Climate Alarmism. The atmospheric temperature of the globe for the last 125 years has remained between 50 degrees F and 55 degrees F. So "Climate change" is one big hoax promoted by the globalist elites for their own benefit.

 

[gb9]

All Christians understand that God controls nature, including the environment. Perhaps unbelievers do not acknowledge this. But God rejects Climate Alarmism. The atmospheric temperature of the globe for the last 125 years has remained between 50 degrees F and 55 degrees F. So "Climate change" is one big hoax promoted by the globalist elites for their own benefit.

yes, it is God's planet, He made it, and made the weather for it.

remember, when the global elites talk about controlling carbon, WE are the carbon that they want to control..

 

[Squigglylines]

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Why I started this thread. So many try to remove our Lord from the environmental events on earth.

I didn't agree with the part about all climate changers believing the earth was trillions of years old. I believe the earth is almost six thousand years from the creation but I also believe the climate is changing. In Genesis 41 Joseph explains there were coming seven good years and after that seven that would eat up the seven good years. Climate Scientist refer to this as El Nino and La Nina which seems to be what Genesis 41 is speaking of, but what seems to be happening at present is that the cycle of seven years is no longer following that seven year pattern.

 

[Nehemiah6]

but I also believe the climate is changing.

Actual data on global temperatures for the last 125 years shows that it is not. The temperature remained constant between 50 degrees F and 55 degrees F. And all the fear-mongering has been debunked by actual studies.

So why was Climate Alarmism created and promoted? It is a part of the New World Order agenda which is to decimate populations by any and all means. So if you wipe out food production, oil and gas production, nuclear and coal energy production, people cannot survive. Then you promote very expensive useless and dangerous electric vehicles so that transportation comes to a halt. Then you introduce one pandemic after another to kill off or maim more people. Then you introduce lockdowns so that children and others lose everything. Then you begin wars for no reason to further decimate economies and people. Then you print insane amount of money to increase inflation and make staples unaffordable. And you keep up the fear-mongering because that in itself will destroy people.

 

[SavedByBlood]

I live in North Central PA. The summers are can reach into the 100's and winters can dip to -10 lower with wind chill. I've seen climate change 4 times a year every year for 60 years now. I'm not concerned.

I lived through 3 floods, multiple blizzards that have cut the state down and 1 earthquake in I think 2010 or 11.

Yep! Climates changing every year.

 

[Squigglylines]

Actual data on global temperatures for the last 125 years shows that it is not. The temperature remained constant between 50 degrees F and 55 degrees F. And all the fear-mongering has been debunked by actual studies.

So why was Climate Alarmism created and promoted? It is a part of the New World Order agenda which is to decimate populations by any and all means. So if you wipe out food production, oil and gas production, nuclear and coal energy production, people cannot survive. Then you promote very expensive useless and dangerous electric vehicles so that transportation comes to a halt. Then you introduce one pandemic after another to kill off or maim more people. Then you introduce lockdowns so that children and others lose everything. Then you begin wars for no reason to further decimate economies and people. Then you print insane amount of money to increase inflation and make staples unaffordable. And you keep up the fear-mongering because that in itself will destroy people.

I'm not even sure how you went from Global warming to Climate change and got pandemics, shutdowns and all the other stuff. I would just start by looking up both terms "Climate Change" and "Global Warming" which are two different things and see what the difference is between the two.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I'm not even sure how you went from Global warming to Climate change and got pandemics, shutdowns and all the other stuff. I would just start by looking up both terms "Climate Change" and "Global Warming" which are two different things and see what the difference is between the two.

The Climate Change nonsense began with "Global Warming" if you will recall. When that hoax was exposed it went to "Climate Change". When that did not create enough panic it went to "Climate Emergency". When that did not have a sufficient impact it went to "The Greatest Threat to Humanity".

But all that I mentioned is a part of one evil agenda -- depopulate the planet and destroy every nation. Which also includes the migrant invasion of the West, the destruction of national borders, the conversion of police forces into Gestapo, shutting down free speech, calling Christians terrorists, etc. Also godless Communism is being revived in many countries, including the USA. Not too many people are connecting the dots, but this is Satan's agenda. And Christians should be able to see this. It is all about STEAL, KILL, AND DESTROY.

 

[Squigglylines]

The Climate Change nonsense began with "Global Warming" if you will recall. When that hoax was exposed it went to "Climate Change". When that did not create enough panic it went to "Climate Emergency". When that did not have a sufficient impact it went to "The Greatest Threat to Humanity".

But all that I mentioned is a part of one evil agenda -- depopulate the planet and destroy every nation. Which also includes the migrant invasion of the West, the destruction of national borders, the conversion of police forces into Gestapo, shutting down free speech, calling Christians terrorists, etc. Also godless Communism is being revived in many countries, including the USA. Not too many people are connecting the dots, but this is Satan's agenda. And Christians should be able to see this. It is all about STEAL, KILL, AND DESTROY.

There's a short term weather forecast where they give you what they think the weather will be tomorrow or a seven day forecast but that's short term. Then there's a long term climate forecast that could be or for a year or decade or several decades. In a long term climate forecast they are looking at precipitation, Temperature and wind. Temperature is one of the three and they are predicting that it will warm instead of becoming colder or staying normal, aka global "warming". The reason is the jet stream is not where it should be and so if it rains it will rain a lot or if it's dry it will be real dry. Global warming means a warming trend instead of a cooling trend is expected. No need to worry though until you reach about 104 degree average days because until then you can stay inside in the AC after average 104 degree days the animals you eat and the plants will die and then we will starve sitting in the AC.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Yep! Climates changing every year.

Weather patterns are constantly changing, but that is nothing to be alarmed about. You take things as they come. But what happened a few decades ago is that CO2 -- which is actually beneficial and necessary for plant life -- was made into a bogeyman in order to promote a specific agenda created by the Western elites (China, India, and Russia do not give a hoot about Climate Change).

So the nonsense about "greenhouse gases" and "fossil fuels" (which do not come from fossils) began to be promoted, and bogus studies began to be published (which have all been debunked). Greenhouses are beneficial to produce food when the climate is too severe, so why would greenhouse gases be harmful? Yet no one stopped to ask this simple question.

And CO2 is used by plants which then release oxygen, which is beneficial to humans.
"Photosynthesis, the process by which green plants and certain other organisms transform light energy into chemical energy. During photosynthesis in green plants, light energy is captured and used to convert water, carbon dioxide, and minerals into oxygen and energy-rich organic compounds." -- Britannica This was God's

But the total C02 content of the earth's atmosphere is only 0.04%, (up from 0.02%). And there is no hard data to prove that this increase has harmed anything. Actually vegetation has flourished.

As to so-called "fossil fuels", they cannot be obtained strictly from fossils. But God had placed layers of oil deep down under the surface of the earth, and that is what is being pumped out. With improvements in technology, vehicles are not releasing a lot of harmful gases, and the use of coal has been improved to reduce CO2 emissions.

But how do you control people and take away their freedoms? By fear-mongering. The COVID19 "pandemic" was all about fear-mongering, because had HCQ and Ivermectin been freely available, not one person would have died. So the governments and the medical establishments sabotages these early treatments and substituted lethal mRNA bioweapons instead. All of this ties together.

Temperature is one of the three and they are predicting that it will warm instead of becoming colder or staying normal,

Less than one degree rises in global temperatures are SIGNIFICANT? That is highly doubtful. Had temperatures increased by 5 to 10 degrees that might have been significant. "On paleoclimate time scales, however, the cause-effect direction is reversed: temperature changes cause subsequent CO2/CH4 changes." On the causal structure between CO2 and global temperature | Scientific Reports (nature.com) Paleoclimate means over tens of thousands of years.

Anyway, I need to start a thread on the Net Zero Hoax.

 

[Squigglylines]

Weather patterns are constantly changing, but that is nothing to be alarmed about. You take things as they come. But what happened a few decades ago is that CO2 -- which is actually beneficial and necessary for plant life -- was made into a bogeyman in order to promote a specific agenda created by the Western elites (China, India, and Russia do not give a hoot about Climate Change).

So the nonsense about "greenhouse gases" and "fossil fuels" (which do not come from fossils) began to be promoted, and bogus studies began to be published (which have all been debunked). Greenhouses are beneficial to produce food when the climate is too severe, so why would greenhouse gases be harmful? Yet no one stopped to ask this simple question.

And CO2 is used by plants which then release oxygen, which is beneficial to humans.
"Photosynthesis, the process by which green plants and certain other organisms transform light energy into chemical energy. During photosynthesis in green plants, light energy is captured and used to convert water, carbon dioxide, and minerals into oxygen and energy-rich organic compounds." -- Britannica This was God's

But the total C02 content of the earth's atmosphere is only 0.04%, (up from 0.02%). And there is no hard data to prove that this increase has harmed anything. Actually vegetation has flourished.

As to so-called "fossil fuels", they cannot be obtained strictly from fossils. But God had placed layers of oil deep down under the surface of the earth, and that is what is being pumped out. With improvements in technology, vehicles are not releasing a lot of harmful gases, and the use of coal has been improved to reduce CO2 emissions.

But how do you control people and take away their freedoms? By fear-mongering. The COVID19 "pandemic" was all about fear-mongering, because had HCQ and Ivermectin been freely available, not one person would have died. So the governments and the medical establishments sabotages these early treatments and substituted lethal mRNA bioweapons instead. All of this ties together.

Less than one degree rises in global temperatures are SIGNIFICANT? That is highly doubtful. Had temperatures increased by 5 to 10 degrees that might have been significant. "On paleoclimate time scales, however, the cause-effect direction is reversed: temperature changes cause subsequent CO2/CH4 changes." On the causal structure between CO2 and global temperature | Scientific Reports (nature.com) Paleoclimate means over tens of thousands of years.

Anyway, I need to start a thread on the Net Zero Hoax.

It is all about a hoax.To me though I see it as an Oil-a-Gark funded campaign to discredit and talk as many people into helping discredit certain things as possible. I can see their concern though because if they were to teach kids in shop class how to build an SSG(school girl) type Bendini(John Bendini) motor/Generator then most near everything by now would be electric and the Electric Co,Oil trillion-airs and others would be out of business.
So I can see their concern because it's a fight for their very survival. The ones that will be the hardest to convince will be the younger people who will be here thirty years form now after all the Oil-a-Gark's and their promoters are dead from old age. I know the kids are being taught not to think for themselves but they will end up figuring it out. At some point in the near future the largest part of the US will end up realizing that they will either make the shift or risk having their enemy nations getting the jump on them in it.

 

[Magenta]

In a long term climate forecast they are looking at precipitation, Temperature and wind. Temperature is one of the three and they are predicting that it will warm instead of becoming colder or staying normal, aka global "warming"

Global warming also refers to what is happening at the poles, with so much ice loss due to rising temperatures,
ice loss which then accelerates global temperature rises because ice reflects sunlight while the sea absorbs it.
Greenland's permafrost melting is a sure sign of this. .. Did you watch the documentary I posted? .

Researchers have discovered coral beds off the coast of Hawaii that are more
than 4,200 years old, making them among the oldest living creatures on Earth.

 

[Squigglylines]

Global warming also refers to what is happening at the poles, with so much ice loss due to rising temperatures,
ice loss which then accelerates global temperature rises because ice reflects sunlight while the sea absorbs it.
Greenland's permafrost melting is a sure sign of this. .. Did you watch the documentary I posted? .

Researchers have discovered coral beds off the coast of Hawaii that are more
than 4,200 years old, making them among the oldest living creatures on Earth.

Yes I had already watched it a year or two ago actually it's marvelous to see the colors of corals and shocking to see them bleached. The Global temperature you mentioned is what throws many off because they look at this local instead of global. They say all the time things like, but it's snowing in ND instead of seeing it as a two or three degree global issue.

 

[Inquisitor]

Weather patterns are constantly changing, but that is nothing to be alarmed about. You take things as they come. But what happened a few decades ago is that CO2 -- which is actually beneficial and necessary for plant life -- was made into a bogeyman in order to promote a specific agenda created by the Western elites (China, India, and Russia do not give a hoot about Climate Change).

So the nonsense about "greenhouse gases" and "fossil fuels" (which do not come from fossils) began to be promoted, and bogus studies began to be published (which have all been debunked). Greenhouses are beneficial to produce food when the climate is too severe, so why would greenhouse gases be harmful? Yet no one stopped to ask this simple question.

And CO2 is used by plants which then release oxygen, which is beneficial to humans.
"Photosynthesis, the process by which green plants and certain other organisms transform light energy into chemical energy. During photosynthesis in green plants, light energy is captured and used to convert water, carbon dioxide, and minerals into oxygen and energy-rich organic compounds." -- Britannica This was God's

But the total C02 content of the earth's atmosphere is only 0.04%, (up from 0.02%). And there is no hard data to prove that this increase has harmed anything. Actually vegetation has flourished.

As to so-called "fossil fuels", they cannot be obtained strictly from fossils. But God had placed layers of oil deep down under the surface of the earth, and that is what is being pumped out. With improvements in technology, vehicles are not releasing a lot of harmful gases, and the use of coal has been improved to reduce CO2 emissions.

But how do you control people and take away their freedoms? By fear-mongering. The COVID19 "pandemic" was all about fear-mongering, because had HCQ and Ivermectin been freely available, not one person would have died. So the governments and the medical establishments sabotages these early treatments and substituted lethal mRNA bioweapons instead. All of this ties together.

Less than one degree rises in global temperatures are SIGNIFICANT? That is highly doubtful. Had temperatures increased by 5 to 10 degrees that might have been significant. "On paleoclimate time scales, however, the cause-effect direction is reversed: temperature changes cause subsequent CO2/CH4 changes." On the causal structure between CO2 and global temperature | Scientific Reports (nature.com) Paleoclimate means over tens of thousands of years.

Anyway, I need to start a thread on the Net Zero Hoax.

If temperature increased by 5 to 10 degrees Celsius you would have an extinction event.

Five to ten degrees for cold countries would not mean extinction.

But for the most populated countries on earth it would be an extinction event.

There are 125 countries in the tropical and subtropical regions.

Billions of people would have to move to the colder climate countries.

Five to ten degrees is a huge increase in the average temperature.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Five to ten degrees is a huge increase in the average temperature.

Exactly. and that was my whole point. Total global temperature increase since 1880 was 1.1 degree C.

 

[Squigglylines]

And how much is 1.1 degrees Celsius to Fahrenheit?

 

[Nehemiah6]

And how much is 1.1 degrees Celsius to Fahrenheit?

The ratio is 1.9 F. But 1.1 C is only about 34 F. That is cold weather since 32 F is freezing temperature.

 

[Squigglylines]

The ratio is 1.9 F. But 1.1 C is only about 34 F. That is cold weather since 32 F is freezing temperature.

Your starting from freezing but if you begin from the average high temperature in 1880 a 1.1 c. degree rise would be ~ 2.7 degree rise in temperature in Fahrenheit since 1880.