Paris Christians arrested for protesting Anti-Christian attacks.

[Eli1]

Hi @Eli1

Is that what you think I'm saying in talking about your example? Yeah, I can see where you have difficulties in understanding. No, I was pointing out how Paul, as I've been saying, didn't go around condemning people for sin... unless they were a part of the fellowship. And in your example that's exactly what Paul didn't do. He did not condemn them for their sin. He merely said that their understanding was from ignorance and he was going to explain the gospel to them that they might be saved. Didn't say a word about how offending it is to God that they're bowing down before false gods. Never said a thing about any condemnation for some sin. Just explained that they were ignorant and told them the truth.

Are you now able to understand? I was using your example to show that you were wrong in your understanding of what this specific and particular example of his teaching was to be taken by us. It is not any justification that believers now 2,000 years later can go around condemning the lost for their sin. Sure, if you want to go around and tell someone that what they are doing is out of ignorance of not knowing the one true and living Savior, that's fine. Have at it.

Then teach them about Jesus, just as Paul did.

You really didn't get any of that?

God bless,
Ted

Ah okay so this tells me more about you now and why you think that the Earth is 6000 years old.
You want things spelled out when it suits you but you want them vague when it doesn't suit you, like talking to sinners with gentle truth.
This is why we have different denominations Ted because you read one page and reach one conclusion and i read the same page and reach a "slightly" different conclusion.
Somehow, you think that Paul didn't point out the Truth here and telling them that they were sinning. Paul's goal and God's goal was to discuss philosophy with the Greeks not to point out their sin in the brilliant manner that Paul did.
Okay, at this point we have reached a conclusion which takes us in different paths based on free-will, so you can go ahead and communicate to the LGBT brigade in a manner that you understand when they are trying to show their lifestyle anywhere in your face and try to force you how to speak while you try to find your words to communicate with them.

 

[tedincarolina]

Ah okay so this tells me more about you now and why you think that the Earth is 6000 years old.
You want things spelled out when it suits you but you want them vague when it doesn't suit you, like talking to sinners with gentle truth.

Hey @Eli1

Wasn't it you that I responded to earlier asking if you ever thought about the things that you post? If not, it should have been. So, you believe that my understanding of Paul in this is explained by my belief in a 6,000 year old creation? Ok. And could you please explain, add some real information to what you're saying, that I want things spelled out or vague. What is that I have wanted spelled out, but left vague somewhere else.

Do you think when you write your posts?

God bless,
Ted

 

[Eli1]

Hey @Eli1

Wasn't it you that I responded to earlier asking if you ever thought about the things that you post? If not, it should have been. So, you believe that my understanding of Paul in this is explained by my belief in a 6,000 year old creation? Ok. And could you please explain, add some real information to what you're saying, that I want things spelled out or vague. What is that I have wanted spelled out, but left vague somewhere else.

Do you think when you write your posts?

God bless,
Ted

Yes, in your case you love the fact when you see 6 days in Creation since it's spelled out perfectly but you don't love the fact that Paul is pointing out sin in Greece because the word 'sin' is not in there.
So, i'm not sure what else is there to say or if you have further ideas to add, but the conclusion is that you have your way of talking to the LGBT community i guess and everybody else is wrong. This is after i pointed out to you the extremes of both sides but you still are not able to see beyond your choice.
Maybe you can teach me how to address this scenario:
A man in a dress wants me to call him a woman.
What do i do?

 

[Smoke]

Hey @Eli1

Wasn't it you that I responded to earlier asking if you ever thought about the things that you post? If not, it should have been. So, you believe that my understanding of Paul in this is explained by my belief in a 6,000 year old creation? Ok. And could you please explain, add some real information to what you're saying, that I want things spelled out or vague. What is that I have wanted spelled out, but left vague somewhere else.

Do you think when you write your posts?

God bless,
Ted

Hi Brother Ted, I was hoping you'd comment on my response to you. I showed the two different paintings. Thank you...

God bless,
Smoke

 

[tedincarolina]

Greece because the word 'sin' is not in there.

Hi @Eli1

Really? You're right the word sin is not in the passage in question. Paul merely accused them of being ignorant in their understanding. Now, yes, the worship of false gods and idols is a sin before the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. But Paul didn't call it that, unless we have some really bad translators. And I'm telling you that your example of Paul calling out sin is a false accusation. He didn't. He merely accused them of being ignorant in what they believed and went on to proclaim to them that which they did not understand by proclaiming Jesus to them.

Now look, if you need to write 'sin' in the margin of your copy of the Scriptures, because you're just jumpin' up and down sure that Paul meant to be accusing them of sin, then go ahead. But if our translators are correct, that's not how Paul addressed their false god worship, but it is how God asks His children to interact with the lost and dying world as concerns telling them about His Son.

Now, I'm sorry, and I'm sure you don't understand a word of this difference that I'm pointing out. And if it makes you feel right about yourself to accuse me of not understsanding what Paul is teaching believers by recording this interaction that he had with some pretty lost people, then I can't help you. But the Holy Spirit can. He is the one who is responsible for revealing to God's children all sin and righteousness.

Are you a child of His? If so, wisdom is available to you. James, the very brother of Jesus, tells us that if any of us lacks wisdom, then we should ask God and He will give it to us. You don't have to walk around the rest of your life not understanding the things of God. You don't have to write in words in your margins because the words the translators used don't happen to fit your understanding of what Paul wrote on this matter here in preaching to a lost group of people who were steeped in sin. Yet he never once condemned them of any wrong. Just ignorance of this god that they were wanting to worship, but didn't have any understanding of. An unknown, to them, God.

God bless you and I do hope that you'll vote wisely in November. Try asking for the Holy Spirit's wisdom on the matter. I do.
Ted

 

[tedincarolina]

Hi Brother Ted, I was hoping you'd comment on my response to you. I showed the two different paintings. Thank you...

God bless,
Smoke

Hey @Smoke

Yeah, I started to, but then I kind of threw up my hands, so to speak, and decried, "What's the use?"

But what I was going to respond is that neither of the paintings resemble what we saw at the Olympic opening nor do they represent anything depicted in Da Vinci's Last Supper. The performance was a ceremonial nod to the ancient Grecian practices of wine and revelry that always symbolized the starting of the games on Mt. Olympus.

Hey, do you really believe that there are minotaurs? I mean, that's what's in one of the paintings that you brought in as your evidence of something, I'm not clear on exactly what. Yeah, neither one of your pictures really made a point of what, I'm sure, you were trying to make.

There was nothing in that performance on the opening night that resembled Da Vinci's painting, which I've already posted up in an earlier thread.

God bless,
Ted

 

[Eli1]

Hi @Eli1

Really? You're right the word sin is not in the passage in question. Paul merely accused them of being ignorant in their understanding. Now, yes, the worship of false gods and idols is a sin before the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. But Paul didn't call it that, unless we have some really bad translators. And I'm telling you that your example of Paul calling out sin is a false accusation. He didn't. He merely accused them of being ignorant in what they believed and went on to proclaim to them that which they did not understand by proclaiming Jesus to them.

Now look, if you need to write 'sin' in the margin of your copy of the Scriptures, because you're just jumpin' up and down sure that Paul meant to be accusing them of sin, then go ahead. But if our translators are correct, that's not how Paul addressed their false god worship, but it is how God asks His children to interact with the lost and dying world as concerns telling them about His Son.

Now, I'm sorry, and I'm sure you don't understand a word of this difference that I'm pointing out. And if it makes you feel right about yourself to accuse me of not understsanding what Paul is teaching believers by recording this interaction that he had with some pretty lost people, then I can't help you. But the Holy Spirit can. He is the one who is responsible for revealing to God's children all sin and righteousness.

Are you a child of His? If so, wisdom is available to you. James, the very brother of Jesus, tells us that if any of us lacks wisdom, then we should ask God and He will give it to us. You don't have to walk around the rest of your life not understanding the things of God. You don't have to write in words in your margins because the words the translators used don't happen to fit your understanding of what Paul wrote on this matter here in preaching to a lost group of people who were steeped in sin. Yet he never once condemned them of any wrong. Just ignorance of this god that they were wanting to worship, but didn't have any understanding of. An unknown, to them, God.

God bless you and I do hope that you'll vote wisely in November. Try asking for the Holy Spirit's wisdom on the matter. I do.
Ted

So no wisdom from you on how to address my question of the deluded man in a dress eh?
Okay, well I brought some hazelnut coffee today so let’s enjoy.

 

[Smoke]

Hey @Smoke

Yeah, I started to, but then I kind of threw up my hands, so to speak, and decried, "What's the use?"

But what I was going to respond is that neither of the paintings resemble what we saw at the Olympic opening nor do they represent anything depicted in Da Vinci's Last Supper. The performance was a ceremonial nod to the ancient Grecian practices of wine and revelry that always symbolized the starting of the games on Mt. Olympus.

Hey, do you really believe that there are minotaurs? I mean, that's what's in one of the paintings that you brought in as your evidence of something, I'm not clear on exactly what. Yeah, neither one of your pictures really made a point of what, I'm sure, you were trying to make.

There was nothing in that performance on the opening night that resembled Da Vinci's painting, which I've already posted up in an earlier thread.

God bless,
Ted

I appreciate you at least not arguing the ceremony looked like either painting as the committee initially said. Objectively speaking, if we had to say it looked like one of the three paintings, it would clearly be the Last Supper though, aye? You do realize it was reported that at least two people that was a part of the ceremony stated it was inspired by the Last Supper? The New York Post didn't reveal the person's name/source... There seem to be a lot of coincidences though...