Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

[tedincarolina]

Do you follow Eschatology?

Where do you think we are in reference to the soon coming Tribulation and Rapture?

Hey @FollowerofShiloh

Well, I'm of course not going to say any day or date, but...

I wouldn't be surprised if Jesus were to return to collect those who belong to HIs Father within the next 30 years. There are a lot of considerations though and some would point to a slightly longer timeframe.

For example: The Hebrew Calander says we're in the year 5784 supposedly calculated from the week of creation. Now, if there is any substance to the thinking that the earth's existence will be akin to the sabbath week...albeit in millenniums instead of days, that would infer that we have maybe a couple of hundred years until we get to that 6,000 year, beginning the 7th millennia. Obviously, I would expect the rapture to occur at that time which would mean that the final week of Daniel tribulation would have started sometime in the previous 7 years.

But the world is getting to be a very restless place, and we are certainly hearing of wars and rumors of wars. We are certainly seeing earthquakes and other catastrophic geologic and meteorologic events in diverse places. But Jesus explained those things as being the birth pains. Those are the indications to the mother that she better get to the hospital because little johnnie is about to fall on the floor. But little johnnie hasn't come yet. How bad can it or will it get.

We see all of this anxiety over immoral sex and hate and anger and division that is just tearing people apart from being able to even live side by side with one another. Jesus said that the love of most will grow cold. Paul wrote of some pretty wicked things going on in a great abundance as we move closer to Jesus' return. But how bad will it get?

So, I see the signs and the prophecies fulfilling. I see the world and its people moving into that day of great deception and great fear and sorrow and pain for the believers, that Jesus said would be coming upon us. Days of great tribulation as has never been seen before nor ever will be. I judge that to be a pretty bad time of tribulation.

But how close are we to Jesus' return? Like I say, I see indications that it could be in the 30-50 years, and I see indication that it may yet be a couple of hundred years. I'm more of the sooner than that mind myself, but it isn't in my time. I can only watch and see. Ticking off prophecies as they are fulfilled. Right now, the greatest prophecy of recent specificity is the return of Israel to their land in 1948. There is a prophecy yet to come that all the nations will rise up against Israel. That's not here yet, but is certainly now a possibility if they unleash a war in the middle east that they can't control.

What are your thoughts on the matter, brother?
Ted

 

[ZNP]

Do you follow Eschatology?

Where do you think we are in reference to the soon coming Tribulation and Rapture?

I realize this was directed to Ted, but I would like to Chime in.

August of 2017 to April of 2024 we had three solar eclipses that crossed the US continent from one sea to another. Generally one such solar eclipse would take place about every hundred years (crossing an entire continent), to have three in a seven year period was certainly rare and perhaps the first time this has happened over the continental US in human history. What made it stranger is the three lines it traced out spelled "Aleph Tav" or "Alpha Omega", the initials of the Lord Jesus (in Revelation He said He was the Alpha and Omega) and for non Hebrew speakers that was a window into the Bible. Sixty times in the OT they had Aleph Tav in the text which was not translated. It is like a legal document where you are told to initial here, and here and here. That was the Lord initially the Covenant in sixty places. I think many agree that this was a sign in the heavens that was very significant. It pointed directly to the Days of Noah, and to the sign of Jonah and to the tribulation and rapture. There are a number of videos which will explain all that on Youtube. But one point, in the 2017 eclipse, August 21, it went over 7 cities names Salem, a Hebrew derivative meaning peace. The interpretation was that the US would have seven years of peace.

Interestingly there is a second completely unrelated sign of Jonah that also points to the destruction of the US in August of 2024. Dumitri Duduman arrived in the US in July of 1984. His ministry was similar to Jonah's in several ways. First the Russians tried to kill him on the electric chair twice, the second time killed the commanding officer and so they stopped and instead sent him to the US. He was spit up on the shore of the west coast of the US in July of 1984 and began a ministry warning the US that they would be destroyed as Nineveh was. He travelled throughout the US with the message that the US had become Sodom and Gomorrah. Jonah warned that after 40 days Nineveh would be destroyed. They repented, God relented, but later Nineveh was destroyed. Anyway that 40 year warning ends this August and the US has clearly not repented.

We also had the Revelation 12 sign in September of 2017, a sign that has only occurred once before in the last six thousand years at the time of Adam and Eve. That sign depicts a child (not a baby or infant but a young child around 6-7) being caught up to heaven followed by a flood (similar to Noah's flood) trying to destroy the woman that gave birth to this child. So you do have three signs that no human could do or imitate all pointing to destruction in the US this summer, rapture and the tribulation.

On the Feast of Trumpets in 2020 the world began shutting down the economy in response to Covid pandemic. On the Feast of Trumpets in 2021 they began mandating an illegal vaccine. These two events are prophesied in Joel as indicating the Day of the Lord is at hand. The Feast of Trumpets is ten days before the day of Judgement and those ten days are called Jacob's trouble. Meanwhile the Feast of Trumpets is called the Longest day. I would say that as of 2021 we are in Jacob's trouble and ten years from now in 2031 we'll see the day of Judgment. On the day of judgement in 2022 Putin approved the annexation of Ukraine. On the Feast of Trumpets in 2023 the UN approved Agenda 2030. This is a seven year covenant with all the nations to deal with climate change. This may be the only seven year covenant that the UN has ever approved. The mastermind of this covenant is King Charles. They built a statue to him because he "saved this deal". It is a winged statue depicting King Charles, it is ten cubits tall and it is called "The Savior of the World". The reason it is ten cubits tall is because they want to put it into the Holy of Holies of the Jews when that is raised again (Either the Tabernacle of David or a new temple, I think the prophecies say it will be the Tabernacle of David). Daniel talks about the overspread of abominations, but the word "overspreading" could also be translated "winged" and the word "abominations" could also be translated "idol".

Now the prophecy does not say that the Antichrist makes the covenant, rather it says he "strengthens the covenant with the many". The problem with Agenda 2030 is that no one keeps it. They sign it because if others keep it that will be good for them. However, if you were going to enforce it to make sure it is kept you would have to control what everyone on earth can buy and sell. So if Antichrist wants to strengthen this covenant he would need to institute the mark of the beast. Then on October 7, 2023 Hamas attacked Israel to keep them from sacrificing the red heifers and beginning the oblations and sacrifices again. Those red heifers are ready to be sacrificed and they must be sacrificed before you can begin the oblations and sacrifices. It is rare to have a certified red heifer, only happened ten times in all of Israel's history.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Hey @FollowerofShiloh

Well, I'm of course not going to say any day or date, but...

I wouldn't be surprised if Jesus were to return to collect those who belong to HIs Father within the next 30 years. There are a lot of considerations though and some would point to a slightly longer timeframe.

For example: The Hebrew Calander says we're in the year 5784 supposedly calculated from the week of creation. Now, if there is any substance to the thinking that the earth's existence will be akin to the sabbath week...albeit in millenniums instead of days, that would infer that we have maybe a couple of hundred years until we get to that 6,000 year, beginning the 7th millennia. Obviously, I would expect the rapture to occur at that time which would mean that the final week of Daniel tribulation would have started sometime in the previous 7 years.

But the world is getting to be a very restless place, and we are certainly hearing of wars and rumors of wars. We are certainly seeing earthquakes and other catastrophic geologic and meteorologic events in diverse places. But Jesus explained those things as being the birth pains. Those are the indications to the mother that she better get to the hospital because little johnnie is about to fall on the floor. But little johnnie hasn't come yet. How bad can it or will it get.

We see all of this anxiety over immoral sex and hate and anger and division that is just tearing people apart from being able to even live side by side with one another. Jesus said that the love of most will grow cold. Paul wrote of some pretty wicked things going on in a great abundance as we move closer to Jesus' return. But how bad will it get?

So, I see the signs and the prophecies fulfilling. I see the world and its people moving into that day of great deception and great fear and sorrow and pain for the believers, that Jesus said would be coming upon us. Days of great tribulation as has never been seen before nor ever will be. I judge that to be a pretty bad time of tribulation.

But how close are we to Jesus' return? Like I say, I see indications that it could be in the 30-50 years, and I see indication that it may yet be a couple of hundred years. I'm more of the sooner than that mind myself, but it isn't in my time. I can only watch and see. Ticking off prophecies as they are fulfilled. Right now, the greatest prophecy of recent specificity is the return of Israel to their land in 1948. There is a prophecy yet to come that all the nations will rise up against Israel. That's not here yet, but is certainly now a possibility if they unleash a war in the middle east that they can't control.

What are your thoughts on the matter, brother?
Ted

As a Jew I am well aware of the Calendar + well aware that many Rabbi's believe it's possible were missing a span of 200 years or more. If we put that into play we are literally reaching that 5,993 mark which the last 7 for Tribulation = 6,000 years. And we know in the Bible we have access to there's literally only the State of Israel Prophesies left to fulfill before we get into Tribulation itself.

Now when we look at Israel and HAMAS, we see 4 of the Nations listed in Psalms 83 and Ezekiel 37-39 and then we add Hezbollah there's another 3 and we have another 1 being Iran [ancient Persia/Babylon] and we're on the brink of an outright War that brings us a Peace Treaty aligned by the antichrist.

So essentially speaking, we are more like a handful of years away.

My thinking then is this Election could be the one that selects the Leader who will place the USA into the one world system and align us with Satan. And between the 2 Candidates at hand, the marriage between the Jew + Hindu [Harris] seems more likely to give us over to Satan than Trump.

But here's something if you would permit me the time to watch. It might just be something for you to consider.

 

[tedincarolina]

As a Jew I am well aware of the Calendar + well aware that many Rabbi's believe it's possible were missing a span of 200 years or more. If we put that into play we are literally reaching that 5,993 mark which the last 7 for Tribulation = 6,000 years.

Hey @FollowerofShiloh

Yes, I had also heard that and that's one of the reasons that I'm a bit wishy washy on the 200 years expectation based on the Jewish Calander. That would put us literally right at the door! Which is an exciting thing to consider. That Jesus could still return in my lifetime. But again, I try to be overly cautious on making any claims that might be too specific concerning a day and date. What do you think will be the last prophecy to be fulfilled before the Lord's return. I'm assuming that you are Jewish by heritage and your relationship with God is through His Son, right?

But eschatology is an exciting study for me. As I say, I see the things going on in the world and I can see God's hand in it, according to His prophecies. Look at Putin rattling his armor. The king of the north? I have for quite a while now, understood that it's very likely that the U.S. is the beast out of the sea. The one which rises up and all the people's are in awe and say, "Who can make war with the beast?" Everyone follows after the beast. I mean, if Jesus is going to return in the next 30 years or so, I don't see how any other nation can qualify for that description.

God bless,
Ted

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Hey @FollowerofShiloh

Yes, I had also heard that and that's one of the reasons that I'm a bit wishy washy on the 200 years expectation based on the Jewish Calander. That would put us literally right at the door! Which is an exciting thing to consider. That Jesus could still return in my lifetime. But again, I try to be overly cautious on making any claims that might be too specific concerning a day and date. What do you think will be the last prophecy to be fulfilled before the Lord's return. I'm assuming that you are Jewish by heritage and your relationship with God is through His Son, right?

But eschatology is an exciting study for me. As I say, I see the things going on in the world and I can see God's hand in it, according to His prophecies. Look at Putin rattling his armor. The king of the north? I have for quite a while now, understood that it's very likely that the U.S. is the beast out of the sea. The one which rises up and all the people's are in awe and say, "Who can make war with the beast?" Everyone follows after the beast. I mean, if Jesus is going to return in the next 30 years or so, I don't see how any other nation can qualify for that description.

God bless,
Ted

As a Jew who has made Jesus my Lord, God, and Savior, I see many things my Jewish family and friends and synagogues I am familiar with do not. And according to Christian data keeping we have that 200 years accounted for. So from my viewpoint compared to my Jewish brothers/sisters/acquaintances I think this election is more important that anyone realizes. And I firmly believe Israel will be in a War and the USA will be there + protecting Taiwan. That will place 7 major Nations involved. That constitutes World War.

Harris said in many of the final decisions made she was either the one who approved or made the choice herself. She BOTCHED Afghanistan and got my military brothers killed. There's NO WAY she can handle a War. We're in serious trouble here.

And then add her with a Jewish husband who doesn't follow Jesus but waiting for his Messiah which is the antichrist + her being Hindu = we're going to end up merged with Satan.

That's how I vote.

And I want God to know I did not vote for someone aligning us with God's number one Enemy!

 

[Nehemiah6]

And I want God to know I did not vote for someone aligning us with God's number one Enemy!

That is what every Christian (or non-Christian) will be doing by voting for liar Kamala Harris. Indeed how can any sane person cast a vote for her. So it boils down to the insanity of Trump Derangement Syndrome. The entire Democratic agenda is a Satanic agenda, and she made abortion -- infanticide -- her top priority. Biden and Harris were going to ensure that tips were taxed to the hilt, but now she stole Trump's proposal to make her look good.

 

[tedincarolina]

As a Jew who has made Jesus my Lord, God, and Savior, I see many things my Jewish family and friends and synagogues I am familiar with do not. And according to Christian data keeping we have that 200 years accounted for. So from my viewpoint compared to my Jewish brothers/sisters/acquaintances I think this election is more important that anyone realizes. And I firmly believe Israel will be in a War and the USA will be there + protecting Taiwan. That will place 7 major Nations involved. That constitutes World War.

Harris said in many of the final decisions made she was either the one who approved or made the choice herself. She BOTCHED Afghanistan and got my military brothers killed. There's NO WAY she can handle a War. We're in serious trouble here.

And then add her with a Jewish husband who doesn't follow Jesus but waiting for his Messiah which is the antichrist + her being Hindu = we're going to end up merged with Satan.

That's how I vote.

And I want God to know I did not vote for someone aligning us with God's number one Enemy!

Hey @FollowerofShiloh

Well, we're definitely not on the same page on that issue. I doubt that VP had much to do with any final decisions about anything as regards what? The Afghan pull out? The border issue? What exactly are some of the final issues that you've heard that she claims to have made?

But for me, it's more about the person, and as I've said, I don't hold the U.S. in quite the high regard as you seem to as regards its place in the Scriptures. As I wrote above, when I read the descriptors that tell us about this beast that rises up out of the sea that everyone follows and whom no one wants to make war against, I find that right now at this time on the earth, that would be the U.S.

We are a nation of people who 'rose up out of the sea' of people, which is what most theologians agree that 'the sea' is referring to here. The sea is all the people and nations of the earth. The U.S. is the only nation on the face of the earth today that most other nations would not want to go to war with. The U.S. is the political system that the whole world is following.

Now, don't misunderstand, I like my place here, but I don't let my personal love or emotional connection color my understanding of the Scriptures. I'm perfectly comfortable if it does turn out that the U.S. is the beast out of the sea. It doesn't bring any condemnation upon me. And as far as I can tell at this point, what other nation could it refer to? And let's do consider that beasts are generally nations according to all of Daniel's prophetic beasts.

That's something that with your Jewish roots you'd likely understand about the use of 'beasts' in God's Scriptures. I'm sure you've covered Daniel's prophecies and all of the beasts that he mentions and how they are nations and we have seen those nations rise and fall.

What are your thoughts on the identity of the beast rising up out of the sea?

God bless,
Ted

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Hey @FollowerofShiloh

Well, we're definitely not on the same page on that issue. I doubt that VP had much to do with any final decisions about anything as regards what? The Afghan pull out? The border issue? What exactly are some of the final issues that you've heard that she claims to have made?

But for me, it's more about the person, and as I've said, I don't hold the U.S. in quite the high regard as you seem to as regards its place in the Scriptures. As I wrote above, when I read the descriptors that tell us about this beast that rises up out of the sea that everyone follows and whom no one wants to make war against, I find that right now at this time on the earth, that would be the U.S.

We are a nation of people who 'rose up out of the sea' of people, which is what most theologians agree that 'the sea' is referring to here. The sea is all the people and nations of the earth. The U.S. is the only nation on the face of the earth today that most other nations would not want to go to war with. The U.S. is the political system that the whole world is following.

Now, don't misunderstand, I like my place here, but I don't let my personal love or emotional connection color my understanding of the Scriptures. I'm perfectly comfortable if it does turn out that the U.S. is the beast out of the sea. It doesn't bring any condemnation upon me. And as far as I can tell at this point, what other nation could it refer to? And let's do consider that beasts are generally nations according to all of Daniel's prophetic beasts.

That's something that with your Jewish roots you'd likely understand about the use of 'beasts' in God's Scriptures. I'm sure you've covered Daniel's prophecies and all of the beasts that he mentions and how they are nations and we have seen those nations rise and fall.

What are your thoughts on the identity of the beast rising up out of the sea?

God bless,
Ted

Aug 18, 2021 — The vice president says she was the last person in the room to advise President Biden when he decided earlier this year to pull out from Afghanistan
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That tells me she is as clueless as Biden was.


We know the Beast coming is a man who will look just like you and myself. But the most important thing we must remember is this man has to appeal to the Jews in order for them to accept him as their Messiah. Immediately, that means he must be Jewish. He doesn't have to be born in Israel, which he wont be, but he must be a descendant of Jewish heritage. No Jew is going to follow a non Jew as Messiah in any lifetime.

But secondly he must also be accepted by the Muslims. So I believe he will be born in a Muslim nation.

 

[tedincarolina]

Hey @FollowerofShiloh

I'm not sure why that would tell you that she's clueless as Biden was. I didn't really understand him as being clueless. He got us pulled out of Afghanistan after 20 years of fighting. I saw it as a pretty good thing. The entire campaign going back over the whole 20 years was likely always going to fail, just like Vietnam.

But people see current political issues differently. Do you feel that there's some possible link to some prophecy of the Scriptures in that?

God bless,
Ted

 

[Nehemiah6]

Nikki Haley Tells Fox News To ‘Quit Complaining’ That Kamala Dodges The Media

Nikki Haley was a Democrat at heart, and abused her Republican membership all the time. She went to the Republican convention recently to scam the Republicans that she was now 100% behind Trump, but now Haley thinks its OK to run a Kamala campaign and dodge the media. That is being two-faced.

Almost all her support against Trump came from Democrats, but she does not have the integrity to go and join them. And she would not quit until she was forced to do so. That is how despicable she is. Tulsi Gabbard left the Communists for good reason, and now they are calling her a terrorist.

 

[tedincarolina]

I wonder. Are they're DINOs? It's not something I hear about, like the MAGA seems to want to judge their entire party of people, in democratic circles. I guess that's because they're liberal and will accept anyone that believes anything. Republicans, on the other hand, have to swear to an allegiance of an entire worldview or they're not of the uh, quality... caliber... right stuff, to be a 'real' republican. It's almost like they're starting their own little church and putting out of their fellowship anyone who doesn't buy into the GOP contender is a demagogue shtick.

God bless and vote wisely,
Ted

 

[Texan18]

1. I don't think Trump is the only one that could get us back on track
2. Obviously the administration in now wants to destroy us.
3.Where is Geronimo when you need him?

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Hey @FollowerofShiloh

I'm not sure why that would tell you that she's clueless as Biden was. I didn't really understand him as being clueless. He got us pulled out of Afghanistan after 20 years of fighting. I saw it as a pretty good thing. The entire campaign going back over the whole 20 years was likely always going to fail, just like Vietnam.

But people see current political issues differently. Do you feel that there's some possible link to some prophecy of the Scriptures in that?

God bless,
Ted

In theory us leaving Afghanistan was a great idea. But in reality everything we accomplished, especially women being taught to read/write/have an education/be an equal human in status with men/etc all went down the drain by handing it over to Muslim control. There were docu series about these poor liberated women and as soon as we departed became back to slaves and property of men.

So besides the military lost during the actual evac + the freedoms many people had under USA control went down the drain it was botched horrifically.

Think about it for a moment here. Even Obama would not evac us from there because of these reasons. So Biden/Harris did what even Obama said we should not do. Kind of shows the true colors of who is running now for President.

 

[mailmandan]

In theory us leaving Afghanistan was a great idea. But in reality everything we accomplished, especially women being taught to read/write/have an education/be an equal human in status with men/etc all went down the drain by handing it over to Muslim control. There were docu series about these poor liberated women and as soon as we departed became back to slaves and property of men.

So besides the military lost during the actual evac + the freedoms many people had under USA control went down the drain it was botched horrifically.

Think about it for a moment here. Even Obama would not evac us from there because of these reasons. So Biden/Harris did what even Obama said we should not do. Kind of shows the true colors of who is running now for President.

Kamala’s Legacy: Taliban Holds Massive Military Parade With U.S. Military Equipment Celebrating Third Anniversary of Ruling Afghanistan – She was Last One in Room Before Biden’s Withdrawal Decision

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/kamalas-legacy-taliban-holds-massive-military-parade-u/

 

[tedincarolina]

In theory us leaving Afghanistan was a great idea. But in reality everything we accomplished, especially women being taught to read/write/have an education/be an equal human in status with men/etc all went down the drain by handing it over to Muslim control. There were docu series about these poor liberated women and as soon as we departed became back to slaves and property of men.

Hey @FollowerofShiloh

We both agree on that. We were never gonna get out of Afghanistan with honor and neither has any other army since the nation was created. We left Vietnam without honor, also. But you know what? There's a reality that has to be dealt with in the moment that decisions like this are made.

President Bush got us involved in Afghanistan as a result of 9/11. I don't fault him for that at all. We were hurting and Americans wanted blood for the reality that a foreign force had killed over 2,000 people on our own soil. By 2021, when we pulled out of Afghanistan, we had to understand that the war was going on and had been for 20 years and we weren't making any progress, just like Vietnam. We came to the conclusion that we had gotten vengeance for 9/11 and killed quite a few of the players and hoped that our attempts to institute democratic style changes and giving rights to women to that little girls could go to school.

So come 2019, Pres. Trump began working on a 'leave with our tails between our lives, but not look like it' withdrawal. He sat down with the powers in Afghanistan and told them that we were going to leave. He established a date, but the first date didn't work. Then we had an election and the administration changed, but everyone still thought that getting out of Afghanistan was a good idea and so the plan was allowed to continue. Yes, it was sloppy and a few more people were killed in the process, but it is war, after all. Now we're out and it's a done deal. We can cry and scream and yell and thump our fists all about how poorly it was handled, but it was handled and I'm confident that it would have been just as sloppy and deadly if the former president had been able to keep his initial plan and timeline. But instead, it was allowed to carry over to the new administration and it was just as messy as it would have been 6 months earlier.

But yes, all of the work for 20 years to try and establish for democratic principles within their government failed. Sure did! No argument there. But we got out of Afghanistan didn't we?

God bless,
Ted