IF the Spirit Dwells In You...
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My point is there is no need to tell someone to ask for the Holy Ghost if in fact they become indwelt upon belief. Paul's question in Acts 19 along with the Samaritan record indicate people do not automatically become indwelt with the Holy Ghost at the point of belief. And both accounts confirm the experience does not happen upon submitting to water baptism either.
My point is there is no need to tell someone to ask for the Holy Ghost if in fact they become indwelt upon belief. Paul's question in Acts 19 along with the Samaritan record indicate people do not automatically become indwelt with the Holy Ghost at the point of belief. And both accounts confirm the experience does not happen upon submitting to water baptism either.
The power to witness is the result of the Holy Ghost taking up residence in the mortal body.
Luke 24:49
Jesus said He'd send the promise of the Father this occurred at Pentecost.
Acts 1:4
Apostle told to wait for the promise of the Father.
Acts 2:33
Peter explained that the promise was the Holy Ghost: Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he (Jesus) hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Acts 2:38-42
The Holy Ghost is promised to those who obey Jesus' commandments presented by the Apostle Peter.
Luke 24:49
Jesus said He'd send the promise of the Father this occurred at Pentecost.
Acts 1:4
Apostle told to wait for the promise of the Father.
Acts 2:33
Peter explained that the promise was the Holy Ghost: Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he (Jesus) hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Acts 2:38-42
The Holy Ghost is promised to those who obey Jesus' commandments presented by the Apostle Peter.
All individuals within every group received the Holy Ghost; Jews, Samaritans and Gentiles. The Acts 19 account, over 20 years later, again proves the experience is required for all individuals. Everything in God's Word is there for a reason. As such, there is relevance to the number of individuals being specifically being expressed in verse 7.
"...Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
7 And all the men were about twelve."
"...Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
7 And all the men were about twelve."
They had already believed. They didn't believe at the point of baptism. They were already called disciples before baptism. Apollos was mighty in the scriptures, and they were his learners.
Apollos was corrected in the right way.. of baptism. He had learned John's baptism.
This group were baptised unto John's baptism... which was not a New Testament baptism but a preparing for Jesus in the NT. Now with Jesus come and resurrected.. they were baptized the right way under the New Testament covenant.
Then with the right baptism.. they could receive the Spirit as a group and be a NT church.
Apollos was corrected in the right way.. of baptism. He had learned John's baptism.
This group were baptised unto John's baptism... which was not a New Testament baptism but a preparing for Jesus in the NT. Now with Jesus come and resurrected.. they were baptized the right way under the New Testament covenant.
Then with the right baptism.. they could receive the Spirit as a group and be a NT church.
It seems you are the one who has already made up their mind.
I am happy to answer questions on this issue, you are refusing to do the same.
This is a very important subject but you are simply tiptoeing around it.
I will ask the question again.
Would you accept the reasoning that you have presented in other subjects?
This is not a "trick" question but one you seem to not want to address.
If you prefer I will not ask again.
I am happy to answer questions on this issue, you are refusing to do the same.
This is a very important subject but you are simply tiptoeing around it.
I will ask the question again.
Would you accept the reasoning that you have presented in other subjects?
This is not a "trick" question but one you seem to not want to address.
If you prefer I will not ask again.
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