Stars, Dust & Sand

[CS1]

aah ... the old "it's a mystery" just accept it. Nah

correct it is a Mystery amen, yet one can say Jesus is all three and has modes or three manifestations of Jesus.

Yes, indeed, a Mystery; however, God the Father is seen in the word of God. The Father Acknowledges the Son, and the Son acknowledges the Spirit. We see this in the word of God. Jesus Acknowledges the Father. All are God yet one. It is a Mystery because human beings can't fully understand all there is to know About God's Divine Nature. limitation.

 

[RR]

correct it is a Mystery amen, yet one can say Jesus is all three and has modes or three manifestations of Jesus.

Yes, indeed, a Mystery; however, God the Father is seen in the word of God. The Father Acknowledges the Son, and the Son acknowledges the Spirit. We see this in the word of God. Jesus Acknowledges the Father. All are God yet one. It is a Mystery because human beings can't fully understand all there is to know About God's Divine Nature. limitation.

There are a few MYSTERIES mentioned in scriptures
Mystery of the Kingdom - Mark 4:11
The blindness of Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles - Romans 11:25
The mystery of the resurrection - 1 Corinthians 15:51
The Mystery of the Gospel of Christ - Ephesians 3
The Mystery of the Church - Ephesians 5:32
The mystery of Revelation - Revelation 3

Hmmm ... no mystery of a triune god.

 

[RR]

The Bible says Adam and Eve were created perfect

They were created perfect and with free will. It was not until they disobeyed God they became sinners which means they were not good. How long after they were created sinless until they disobeyed God is unknown.

Exactly my point, they were created perfect, sinless, until they sinned and were no longer perfect.

 

[RR]

I don't know what Bible you use, but the King James Bible answers your question in the very first chapter.
To repeat Magenta's reference.
What is the issue sir?

27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

And I'll ask YOU the same question I asked Magenta.

Adam and Eve were created in the Garden of Eden. They were without sin. Because of that, they were perfect and flawless. If we presume they weren't perfect, then we have to see that God created them with imperfections. If God created them as imperfect, wouldn't that mean that by creating us this way he caused us to sin? Being omniscient, he knew full well that if he created us to sin then we would sin. Therefore wouldn't his act of creation be the cause of the sin? If he created us to sin, can God be held accountable for this sin?

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

And I'll ask YOU the same question I asked Magenta.

Adam and Eve were created in the Garden of Eden. They were without sin. Because of that, they were perfect and flawless. If we presume they weren't perfect, then we have to see that God created them with imperfections. If God created them as imperfect, wouldn't that mean that by creating us this way he caused us to sin? Being omniscient, he knew full well that if he created us to sin then we would sin. Therefore wouldn't his act of creation be the cause of the sin? If he created us to sin, can God be held accountable for this sin?

Of course they were good and perfect.
They chose to sin, just as you and I do sir.

For the wages of sin is death.

God is righteous.

Okay, can you show me a verse that say Adam and Eve were created "good"?

You don't have to read far to find your answer.

They ceased to be good or perfect when they sinned.

Here's the practical dilemma.
How are you getting to heaven when you die?

 

[CS1]

There are a few MYSTERIES mentioned in scriptures
Mystery of the Kingdom - Mark 4:11
The blindness of Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles - Romans 11:25
The mystery of the resurrection - 1 Corinthians 15:51
The Mystery of the Gospel of Christ - Ephesians 3
The Mystery of the Church - Ephesians 5:32
The mystery of Revelation - Revelation 3

Hmmm ... no mystery of a triune god.

So, you know all there is to God and his Divine Nature? Ok, what does HE look LIKE? Assuming you have seen him.

Let's put one more Mystery given to John by the Holy Spirit, which he recorded in scripture that you missed.

1john 3:2
2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

That is A MYSTERY that we will not know until we have seen HIM.

1Corthians 13:12

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
This, too, is a Mystery.

But you know all, please share.

 

[CS1]

There are a few MYSTERIES mentioned in scriptures
Mystery of the Kingdom - Mark 4:11
The blindness of Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles - Romans 11:25
The mystery of the resurrection - 1 Corinthians 15:51
The Mystery of the Gospel of Christ - Ephesians 3
The Mystery of the Church - Ephesians 5:32
The mystery of Revelation - Revelation 3

Hmmm ... no mystery of a triune god.

You can see the Father without the Son. You can't know the Son without the Holy Spirit leading you. Yet you have nor seen any of them, but there work is clearly seen John 3:8

8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

 

[RR]

You can see the Father without the Son. You can't know the Son without the Holy Spirit leading you. Yet you have nor seen any of them, but there work is clearly seen John 3:8

8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

I know the Father, because the Son drew me to him via holy Spirit.

 

[RR]

So, you know all there is to God and his Divine Nature? Ok, what does HE look LIKE? Assuming you have seen him.

"No one has ever seen God. The One and Only Son— the One who is at the Father’s side— He has revealed Him." - John 1:18

Let's put one more Mystery given to John by the Holy Spirit, which he recorded in scripture that you missed.

1john 3:2
2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

That is A MYSTERY that we will not know until we have seen HIM.

1Corthians 13:12

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
This, too, is a Mystery.

That would fall under the "mystery of the resurrection" when we are raised in the spirit.

 

[UnoiAmarah]

Angels aren't men

In the OT Book of Judges, when the angel of the LORD appeared unto the woman and said unto her, For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God and the angel of the LORD appeared unto the husband who asked the man if he was the one who spoke to his wife, the angel of the LORD said, I am."

So why aren't angels men?

 

[CS1]

I know the Father, because the Son drew me to him via holy Spirit.

You don't know ALL, be arrogant all you want.

 

[SaysWhat]

Adam and Eve were created in the Garden of Eden.

Eve could be debated but Adam was definitely not created in the Garden, he was placed there.

 

[Magenta]

There are a few MYSTERIES mentioned in scriptures
Mystery of the Kingdom - Mark 4:11 // The blindness of Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles - Romans 11:25
The mystery of the resurrection - 1 Corinthians 15:51 // The Mystery of the Gospel of Christ - Ephesians 3
The Mystery of the Church - Ephesians 5:32 // The mystery of Revelation - Revelation 3

Hmmm ... no mystery of a triune god.

1 Timothy 3:16