Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ThereRoseaLamb

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So why does them buying things bother you so?
Obtuse.


The US has had for a very long time, and still has, churches that refuse to marry interracial couples, yet the government hasn't forced them to change, because doing so would be an obvious infringement on their freedom of religion. The same holds true for gay marriages.
Well the first one is racism, I don't know how that's allowed. The gay marriage issue will change. Wait and see.

And sadly, it seems you have made that deal.
Ok last of the troll food here. You haven't listened to anything said, you've twisted words and played obtuse. You don't know anything about me. Patience for nonsense has run it's limit. We're done.
 

JayBird

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Well the first one is racism, I don't know how that's allowed.

Because of freedom of religion.

The gay marriage issue will change. Wait and see.
I remember back in 2015 after same sex marriage was legalized, and all the predictions about how it would be the end of opposite sex marriage, the end of western society, and the collapse of civilization.


None of it happened, so you'll understand my skepticism.
 

ZNP

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PennEd

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I cannot even imagine taking a photo like that with my father, triple cringe!!!
Disgraceful, and disgusting that you think it's "triple cringe" that a father hugs and kisses his child.

Myself, and MILLIONS of other father's continuously show love in this manner to our children.

Perhaps it explains your harshness that you did not receive any.
 

Smoke

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Explains why he waited so long to run for office, he needed to put a lot of distance between himself and his sordid past.

I cannot even imagine taking a photo like that with my father, triple cringe!!!
You're only allowed to say it's cringe when Biden does cringe things. :censored:

This is how I would hold my significant other while watching a movie honestly. :oops:
 

PennEd

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You're only allowed to say it's cringe when Biden does cringe things. :censored:

This is how I would hold my significant other while watching a movie honestly. :oops:
Do you even have kids?
 

Smoke

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Disgraceful, and disgusting that you think it's "triple cringe" that a father hugs and kisses his child.

Myself, and MILLIONS of other father's continuously show love in this manner to our children.

Perhaps it explains your harshness that you did not receive any.
Trump: “I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”

If this was a one-off picture and Trump never "joked" about dating his daughter, I wouldn't think it was overly cringe even considering Ivanka is a teenager in this picture. JD Vance is on record saying it was "weird" too. We can concede it's not as disturbing as Biden taking a shower with a preteen daughter, but it's objectively weird to many people nonetheless.
 

PennEd

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Trump: “I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”

If this was a one-off picture and Trump never "joked" about dating his daughter, I wouldn't think it was overly cringe even considering Ivanka is a teenager in this picture. JD Vance is on record saying it was "weird" too. We can concede it's not as disturbing as Biden taking a shower with a preteen daughter, but it's objectively weird to many people nonetheless.
I'll take that as a no on kids.
 

Smoke

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Do you even have kids?
My having kids or not is irrelevant to finding it a bit weird when we consider other things Trump has said. I'm sure Biden would use some of your points about simply being a loving father to justify taking a shower with his step-daughter. My having kids or not wouldn't change that most people find that absurdly weird, if not illegal.
 

Smoke

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I'll take that as a no on kids.
I would rather not disclose my personal life as it has nothing to do with finding this weird or not. If you have a daughter and would "joke" about dating her and hold her like she was your wife, you're free to do so. Just don't be surprised if people who have kids and people who don't have kids find it a bit weird.
 

PennEd

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My having kids or not is irrelevant to finding it a bit weird when we consider other things Trump has said. I'm sure Biden would use some of your points about simply being a loving father to justify taking a shower with his step-daughter. My having kids or not wouldn't change that most people find that absurdly weird, if not illegal.
What the H**l is wrong with you people!?

How can you compare a father showering with his daughter, to a father hugging and kissing his daughter on the head, in public?

I can list a half dozen friends, including our Pastor, that regularly wrap and hug and kiss their kids in public, as a sign of affection and love to them.

I find it disturbing and telling that others make it into something dirty and sexual.
 

HeIsHere

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You're only allowed to say it's cringe when Biden does cringe things. :censored:

This is how I would hold my significant other while watching a movie honestly. :oops:
The adulation and respect Christians afford him is so misplaced.
 

HeIsHere

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My having kids or not is irrelevant to finding it a bit weird when we consider other things Trump has said. I'm sure Biden would use some of your points about simply being a loving father to justify taking a shower with his step-daughter. My having kids or not wouldn't change that most people find that absurdly weird, if not illegal.
Exactly .. it all his statements along with his behaviour.
 

Smoke

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What the H**l is wrong with you people!?

How can you compare a father showering with his daughter, to a father hugging and kissing his daughter on the head, in public?

I can list a half dozen friends, including our Pastor, that regularly wrap and hug and kiss their kids in public, as a sign of affection and love to them.

I find it disturbing and telling that others make it into something dirty and sexual.
I compared them in so much as to say it's MORE weird, possibly illegal (not sure), about Joe showering with his step-daughter. You're somehow interpretting that as if I am equating their acts. Perhaps you missed this point? No one put them on par.

Nevertheless, both are weird. It's also not a defense to point out what Joe did... For this reason, I pre-emptively pointed it out as to defuse any sort of "whatabout'ism" defense to deflect how weird the picture and the quote of dating his daughter is.

Let's try to find common ground on this. I said if Trump never commented about how he would date his daughter (and never calling her "sexy"), then the picture posted wouldn't be overly weird for me. For me personally, it's the picture with his comments about his daughter that make it weird. Do you think it's weird to joke about dating your daughter if she wasn't your biological daughter? Do you think it's weird to call your daughter "sexy"?
 

HeIsHere

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#7 I like golf. We both like sex
#6: ‘If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her’
#5: ‘She has the ‘best body’ — and I created her’
#4: Who needs the First Lady when you have a First Daughter
#3: ‘If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father’
#2: ‘Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife’?

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