A critical look at Harris

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JayBird said:
Trump told a room of oil and gas CEOs that if they give him a billion dollars, he'll shape government policy to what they want.

He gave mega corporations and billionaires the biggest tax break in history, and he's now campaigning to give them even more.

I hardly think that that main issue in the US right now is that billionaires and giant corporations don't have enough money.
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I dunno about that....
I have yet to see that on his platform anywhere.
His platform is available.
Your claims are somewhat more in line with propaganda than nuanced....which is what the truth always contains.

And when it comes to money....

Why does Verizon wireless have a 5 billion dollar loan with Farm Credit? It's supposed to support domestic food and farming production.

Farm Credit has been shutting down family farms and boosting a couple corporate farms and fewer food processing plants. (Centralizing food production is as dumb as it gets for big ideas) But that's been Farm Credit's operating procedures lately.

And considering that the WH appoints the board for Farm Credit....this is Obama and Biden's fault.
 
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JohnDB said:
I dunno about that....
I have yet to see that on his platform anywhere.
His platform is available.
Your claims are somewhat more in line with propaganda than nuanced....which is what the truth always contains.

And when it comes to money....

Why does Verizon wireless have a 5 billion dollar loan with Farm Credit? It's supposed to support domestic food and farming production.

Farm Credit has been shutting down family farms and boosting a couple corporate farms and fewer food processing plants. (Centralizing food production is as dumb as it gets for big ideas) But that's been Farm Credit's operating procedures lately.

And considering that the WH appoints the board for Farm Credit....this is Obama and Biden's fault.
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I've never looked into the Farm Credit program. I'll see what I can find and get back to you.
 
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JayBird said:
Amazing that you've never heard of price gouging during natural disasters, pandemics, etc.
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There are no natural disasters or pandemics at present. So why did you bring up these strawmen? I'll tell you why. You have no understanding of how businesses operate. So this is ignorance and deflection on your part.
 
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JohnDB said:
Why does Verizon wireless have a 5 billion dollar loan with Farm Credit? It's supposed to support domestic food and farming production.
Farm Credit has been shutting down family farms and boosting a couple corporate farms and fewer food processing plants. (Centralizing food production is as dumb as it gets for big ideas) But that's been Farm Credit's operating procedures lately.

And considering that the WH appoints the board for Farm Credit....this is Obama and Biden's fault.
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Do you know if there's any affiliation with the county Farm Bureaus?
There are Farmer Associations and those that call themselves Farm Bureaus who's members are farmers.
From what I see, they are led by County extension offices.
 
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HealthAndHappiness said:
Do you know if there's any affiliation with the county Farm Bureaus?
There are Farmer Associations and those that call themselves Farm Bureaus who's members are farmers.
From what I see, they are led by County extension offices.
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That sounds like insurance ....
This is non-conventional business loans subsidized by tax dollars to be low interest and often for 20 years or more. They are issued by private banks, approved by a board in DC, and issued to both farmers and food processing plants. This can be frozen peas, canned peaches, flour mills, chicken/poultry butchers or beef/pork plants. Basically anything agricultural food production. Farmers raise their crops by contract usually.

Processors work with USDA for quantities, quality standards and etc. Then issue directives to the growers for various quality concerns. Farm Credit, by extension of the loans tends to control the food prices and allows for people to make profits (not much).
America processes 60% of the world food supply due to our cleanliness standards. (Wacked eh?)

So now Farm Credit is telling processors to consolidate plants to larger ones. Calling due FarmCredit loans of farms when their contracts are dried up due to Farm Credit moving the processors. Then making them sell the farms for pennies on the dollar to foreign investors along with a gag agreement to keep them from telling anyone about it.

Getting the picture yet of all sorts of greed, control, price fixing, and general collusion?
 
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JohnDB said:
That sounds like insurance ....
This is non-conventional business loans subsidized by tax dollars to be low interest and often for 20 years or more. They are issued by private banks, approved by a board in DC, and issued to both farmers and food processing plants. This can be frozen peas, canned peaches, flour mills, chicken/poultry butchers or beef/pork plants. Basically anything agricultural food production. Farmers raise their crops by contract usually.

Processors work with USDA for quantities, quality standards and etc. Then issue directives to the growers for various quality concerns. Farm Credit, by extension of the loans tends to control the food prices and allows for people to make profits (not much).
America processes 60% of the world food supply due to our cleanliness standards. (Wacked eh?)

So now Farm Credit is telling processors to consolidate plants to larger ones. Calling due FarmCredit loans of farms when their contracts are dried up due to Farm Credit moving the processors. Then making them sell the farms for pennies on the dollar to foreign investors along with a gag agreement to keep them from telling anyone about it.

Getting the picture yet of all sorts of greed, control, price fixing, and general collusion?
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Now I know what that's about. You're pointing out that big ag and unrelated corporations are taking advantage of the low interest Farm loans. O k.
There's a lot of manipulation that must be behind the barn . I'll take a wild guess that there's a lot of manipulation through this to drive out the family farms that are left too.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
There are no natural disasters or pandemics at present. So why did you bring up these strawmen? I'll tell you why. You have no understanding of how businesses operate. So this is ignorance and deflection on your part.
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So we agree that price gouging can, and does indeed occur in capitalistic economies. Good.
 
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JayBird said:
So we agree that price gouging can, and does indeed occur in capitalistic economies. Good.
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That is not even the issue. So you are simply deflecting attention from the actual CURRENT false accusations of Biden and Harris. They want to blame businesses for their own sins. So talk about that. I don't believe I will be responding to any more of your false and misleading posts. You are simply trolling for Harris.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
That is not even the issue.
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Good! Some here were saying price gouging can't happen in a capitalist economy, but obviously that's not so.

I don't believe I will be responding to any more of your false and misleading posts. You are simply trolling for Harris.
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If you can't talk with people who see things differently than you, it's a reflection on you more than anything else.

It's ok, relax. There are 8 billion people on the planet, and I'm betting most of us disagree with each other on at least something. But we can still talk with each other.
 
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Big fat green "fact checked" checkmark on this one.....
And never forget: 10% for the Big Guy and a cut for his cronies who are engaged in the human trafficking syndicates.

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Yup.....RFK is opening the CIA/FBI election interference pandoras box.

Ian Carroll on X: "RFK finally said the quiet part out loud. The CIA interfered in the 2020 election in broad daylight and we all know it. Indisputably. Factually. Zero consequences. Zero accountability. https://t.co/p1lcYFqXW9" / X

DC_Draino on X: "TikTok just censored this video and here’s why 51 intelligence snakes lied during the 2020 election to cover up for the Hunter Biden laptop, which had evidence of pedophilic crimes and foreign bribe corruption Why? Because they controlled Biden and wanted him to win so he" / X
 
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tedincarolina said:
Hi @Susanna

P.S. I rather enjoyed the Obama years after the mortgage backed securities collapsed under Bush.
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LOL....By Bush you mean it just happened on his watch. However, the collapse had been set in motion by Clinton, Correct?

In 92 the CRA, Community Reinvestments Act revisions signed by Clinton. Clinton signed the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Improvement Act, which strengthened the CRA’s requirements for banks to meet local credit needs. This led to increased lending to underserved communities, including subprime borrowers.

He also that year pushed for the Housing Enterprise Asset Preservation Act, which required that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to dedicate 30% of their purchases to affordable housing. Latter to become 50%. Giving way to a large addition of subprime mortgages onto the market.

In 95 his HUD department wanted to increase even more home ownership to low income families. This strategy encouraged lenders to make more subprime loans, as it prioritized access to credit over prudent lending practices. Where whatever you put on the loan doc was taken as gospel as ninja, no income no job loans, became a thing.

Then in 99 Clinton led the charge and signed the repeal of sections 20 and 32 of the Glass Steagall Act. You have also the congress during those years and Robert Rubin his Sec of the Treasury that were involved. Not to forget that Greenspan was in favor. So there is a host of folks involved and Clinton has a lion share as well.

So to just say that it all came down under Bush is intellectually dishonest to do so without proper explanation. Your internet rekt moment comment, just lacks any real substance.

P.S. As a side note don't ever make me have to defend Bush.........yuck............LOL Puts a bad taste in my mouth.........LOL
 
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