Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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cv5

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It appears that two former DEMOCRAT presidential candidates have dumped the Democrats and joined forces with Trump?
Tulsi Gabbard was Vice Chair of the DNC. Meaning she has the Democrat's soft money purse strings.

What in the world is going on?
Could it be that these people actually possess a conscience, consequently have decided to support the rule of law, Constitution and BofR, and align themselves with those likeminded?

Furthermore, one must consider that Trump/RFK and these newfound political allies, including Congressional Freedom caucus members, are ipso facto a new party/ticket?

And is it reasonable to say that the unhinged Democrats with their relentless Bolshevik policies and their proclivities for massive election fraud have precipitated such a dire national crisis that such a seismic political realignment was inevitable?

Because I would say yes.
 

cv5

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I agree. Someone who's that bad at hiring people, especially after bragging about how great he is at it, needs to be tossed out.
Weren't you the guy that swore up and down that Putin blew up his own gas pipeline?
Can't remember.

Anyhoo.....I knew within 72 hours how that went down. And so did everybody else that wasn't a hive-mind nutter.
 
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I agree. Someone who's that bad at hiring people, especially after bragging about how great he is at it, needs to be tossed out.
No, he just didn't know so many Dems were hiding out in the Rep. party. Women do better at that anyway. They have better decrement.
 

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Then please clarify. You seemed to be arguing that former Trump admin officials who have since stated that they will not support him or vote for him are really "secret Democrats".

Since Mike Pence is a very prominent member of the "former Trump officials who've turned against him" club, doesn't that mean Pence must therefore be a secret Dem?
 

cv5

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Then please clarify. You seemed to be arguing that former Trump admin officials who have since stated that they will not support him or vote for him are really "secret Democrats".

Since Mike Pence is a very prominent member of the "former Trump officials who've turned against him" club, doesn't that mean Pence must therefore be a secret Dem?
There is your party in a nutshell fella.

@amuse on X: "@grantstern Congratulation to Democrats to be the first party to sue every other presidential nominee…" / X
 
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Then please clarify.

Actually, it's not that secret. They vote with Dems, they side with Dems, they did it before Trump came into office. Pence and Trump said they talked and settled.

Wipe down the chalk board. We have two candidates. One is radical left, the other is somewhere in the middle of moderate Dems, Independents and Conservatives. Bill Mahar said it, "I didn't leave the party, the party left me". RFK said it, not the party of his uncle or his father anymore. You want radical, lawless and Godlessness,inflation, high gas and food, go with the radical leftists. You want closed borders, lowered crime, afford to buy a home, heat a home, eat, gas in your car and common sense, you'll vote Republican. Nothing else matters.
 

JayBird

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Actually, it's not that secret. They vote with Dems, they side with Dems, they did it before Trump came into office.

Who's that?

Pence and Trump said they talked and settled.
It must not have gone well, since Pence refuses to endorse or vote for Trump.


Wipe down the chalk board. We have two candidates. One is radical left, the other is somewhere in the middle of moderate Dems, Independents and Conservatives. Bill Mahar said it, "I didn't leave the party, the party left me". RFK said it, not the party of his uncle or his father anymore. You want radical, lawless and Godlessness,inflation, high gas and food, go with the radical leftists. You want closed borders, lowered crime, afford to buy a home, heat a home, eat, gas in your car and common sense, you'll vote Republican. Nothing else matters.
You really think Trump is basically a moderate Dem?

I don't recall moderate Dems wanting to give historic tax breaks to billionaires and mega corporations, or saying immigrants "poison the blood of our country", or trying to repeal the ACA, or tearing apart families via deportation raids, or putting families in camps, etc.

And btw, crime was higher under Trump, oil production was lower than now, and he left office with a negative jobs creation record.
 

JohnDB

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I guess that means Trump is terribly, horribly bad at hiring people, and his promise to only hire "the best and brightest" was a lie.
I can agree with that. He hired a bunch of big name show ponies last time....not many were competent.
I think he got sold a bill of goods by someone for those he hired. Nobody knows everyone. But he didn't fire a lot of people either. (DC is a cesspool)
 
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The problem with the democrats trying to cite Mike Pence is that Pence ran in the GOP primary for this year and the voters soundly rejected him, therefore did he turn traitor for his own selfish interests and motives and not for we the people's interests. Pence's word will not carry weight like RFK Jr. who ran a solid campaign and had people actually voting for him rather than voting against Trump. Kamala did not even run in this primary as where RFK Jr. has run a longer and harder campaign than her. This also serves to remind us that in the here and now that Kamala has seized power by disregarding the primary election and the American people even to brazenly insulting degrees. Trump is now the only major candidate that was chosen by democracy.
 

cv5

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But he didn't fire a lot of people either. (DC is a cesspool)
De Santis fired everybody after obtaining office. Basically the entire old guard.
Trump not doing the same was the biggest mistake of his presidency.
I blame it on his ego and other character flaws. Including being stupid.
 

cv5

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@Geiger_Capital
"Simply imagine if Zuckerberg had confessed that the *Trump* White House pressured his company to censor things they didn’t like and then *Trump* had the CIA/FBI falsely claim a laptop they knew was real was fake to help him in the election…

It would be Watergate. Impeachment."

"The most important part of Zuckerberg’s confirmation of the FBI’s pressure to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story is that they’d had the laptop for over a year, and knew as fact that it was real. Impossible to explain away as a mistake. It was a planned election interference op."
 

gb9

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De Santis fired everybody after obtaining office. Basically the entire old guard.
Trump not doing the same was the biggest mistake of his presidency.
I blame it on his ego and other character flaws. Including being stupid.
i think " stubborn" is a better way to describe him. refusing to listen to good advice and refusing to admit he listened to bad advice..
 

Bob-Carabbio

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This is a question for any and all Trump/MAGA supporters. Is there any line he could cross that would cause you to stop supporting him? In other words, is your support for him unconditional? I'm just wondering if you've made up your mind to support him no matter what.

He almost crossed it in Butler, but the fool didn't have good enough aim - and the Secret service didn't get the job done.
 

JohnDB

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i think " stubborn" is a better way to describe him. refusing to listen to good advice and refusing to admit he listened to bad advice..
Yeah...
Post office is still a mess from buying new tech that has not worked yet.

Warehouses are filling up with mail again.
 

cv5

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i think " stubborn" is a better way to describe him. refusing to listen to good advice and refusing to admit he listened to bad advice..
The guy was literally surrounded by enemies 24/7. Under continuous attack by RINOs too.

Sick.