Loss of salvation???
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You don't have to experience something, you simply have to know what something is. I have never experienced life in Russia but I can read about it and understand it because I know life and what it is to be human.
We cannot imagine anything without first having some knowledge upon which to build. Only God can create out from nothing. Adam had to have some knowledge regarding death, if only a dead leaf, in order to comprehend the command fully and know that death was bad. After all, what would have been the attraction to the fruit if Adam already knew good from evil?
We cannot imagine anything without first having some knowledge upon which to build. Only God can create out from nothing. Adam had to have some knowledge regarding death, if only a dead leaf, in order to comprehend the command fully and know that death was bad. After all, what would have been the attraction to the fruit if Adam already knew good from evil?
What difference the consequences? We should obey God because of who He is not because of the consequences. It is completely irrelevant for Adam to know what death is in order to obey. If He had loved God, he would have loved His word and obeyed the command whether he knew what death was or not. I believe God deliberately withheld understanding of death in order to get this point across to us.
If we are only obeying because we fear bad consequences if we don't obey? We are not walking by faith.
If we are only obeying because we fear bad consequences if we don't obey? We are not walking by faith.
[QUOTE="gratefuloneson, Can a once truly saved believer backslide too much and lose the gift of salvation? If so do they need to repent and ask for forgiveness through Christ again? Thoughts are welcome and scripture too![/QUOTE]
Dear Gratefuloneson,
I am new so having learned the art of posting and responding to certain posts.
Anyway, when it comes to a question like that, some denominations say you can. I don't belong to any church denomination, so in other words, I search the Bible and form my own beliefs. Too many people just swallow what a pastor or church says. I firmly believe you need to pray and search your heart. That said, God is full is Love and Mercy. He doesn't want anyone to be lost. If you accepted Jesus and asked him into your heart, then You need to follow HiM in the best way we can. This doesn't mean we won't backslide, I know I have many times in my 73 years but I always come back and am reassured of His love. You always need to ask for forgiveness and stop doing something if you know it is wrong.. All the scripture listed here is a good start.
Dear Gratefuloneson,
I am new so having learned the art of posting and responding to certain posts.
Anyway, when it comes to a question like that, some denominations say you can. I don't belong to any church denomination, so in other words, I search the Bible and form my own beliefs. Too many people just swallow what a pastor or church says. I firmly believe you need to pray and search your heart. That said, God is full is Love and Mercy. He doesn't want anyone to be lost. If you accepted Jesus and asked him into your heart, then You need to follow HiM in the best way we can. This doesn't mean we won't backslide, I know I have many times in my 73 years but I always come back and am reassured of His love. You always need to ask for forgiveness and stop doing something if you know it is wrong.. All the scripture listed here is a good start.
