The hatred of Jews

[ZNP]

What part and what do you mean by undone?

The law, and judgment about a mass killer,

Mercy towards a brother in the Lord

and Faith in the Lord that He is Lord and whether His servants will stand or fall is up to Him, not you.

 

[Smoke]

The law, and judgment about a mass killer,

Mercy towards a brother in the Lord

and Faith in the Lord that He is Lord and whether His servants will stand or fall is up to Him, not you.

It was intentionally left off because I don't refute it. It's not "arguing" a point when two sides agree. I only countered Penned's claim about God grieving over the unsaved as was the case in Genisis. Or in other words, you're pointing to the "camel" when we were discussing only the "gnat".

 

[ZNP]

It was intentionally left off because I don't refute it. It's not "arguing" a point when two sides agree. I only countered Penned's claim about God grieving over the unsaved as was the case in Genisis. Or in other words, you're pointing to the "camel" when we were discussing only the "gnat".

Not me, Jesus.

 

[Smoke]

Not me, Jesus.

Wait, Jesus got on your account and made the post below?

This post reminds me of those who strain out the gnat (someone saying they don't grieve for the lost when they die) while they swallow the camel.

I'm saying it shouldn't have reminded you of the camel and the gnat because we agree how the camel and the gnat map to Shukr and the people he killed.

 

[ZNP]

Wait, Jesus got on your account and made the post below?

Yes, I was quoting Jesus from the gospels, He was the one who said that about the gnat and the camel. You agreed that you were talking about the gnat and ignoring the camel. So we are in agreement that your post is related to what Jesus said, not me. I'm simply the delivery boy.

 

[Smoke]

Yes, I was quoting Jesus from the gospels, He was the one who said that about the gnat and the camel. You agreed that you were talking about the gnat and ignoring the camel. So we are in agreement that your post is related to what Jesus said, not me. I'm simply the delivery boy.

I'm agreeing to how they map after you asked why I wouldn't be more concerned about the innocent people that were murdered by Shukr. Hilarious how we're having a meta discussion about this. I'll break it down so you'll understand.

You brought up the camel and the gnat because you asked a loaded question which implied I don't concern myself with the victims of Shukr. Shukr maps to gnat and his victims apply to the camel. I told you it was a strawman to imply/assume I'm not "more concerned" with the camel (the victims of Shukr) because I never said I didn't... I ignored it BECAUSE (using the gnat and the camel you brought up), the victims would clearly be the camel. We all grieve for them, including Penned. The point he and I were discussing was if Shukr was a "gnat" (using the gnat and camel reference from Jesus).

So you and I are in agreement on how they map. You agreed I never said I am not concerned more with the victims of Shukr which renders your loaded question of why you think I'm swallowing the camel but straining the gnat useless. Lastly, my post initially had nothing to do with the gnat and the camel, you MISTAKENLY thought it did because you assumed/implied I'm swallowing the camel but straining the gnat.

It would be the equivalent of this type of conversation:

Smoke: Hey ZNP, why are you okay with murdering people when God clearly commanded that we not murder?

ZNP: Huh? I didn't say it was okay to murder though... Why would you think I'm okay with murdering people?

Smoke: Because you DIDN'T say it was wrong in your completely separate and different conversation with Penned.

ZNP: That's because I wasn't talking about murder at all... And God didn't ask me why I'm okay with murder, YOU did.

Smoke: No, God commanded us not to murder. I'm simply the delivery boy.

 

[cv5]

Yes.
God grieves when His CHILDREN go astray.

NOT everyone is His Child. You become His Child by accepting His Son and being born again.

NOWHERE in Scripture does it say God grieves for those that reject Him. Because they AREN'T His children!

So YOU can infer all sorts of things from Scripture. I'll stick to what it actually says.

God weeps for the disobedient and His children as well. He weeps for the lost. Its a primary theme in the Bible.

Jer 13:15
Hear ye, and give ear; be not proud: for the LORD hath spoken.
Jer 13:16
Give glory to the LORD your God, before he cause darkness, and before your feet stumble upon the dark mountains, and, while ye look for light, he turn it into the shadow of death, and make it gross darkness.
Jer 13:17
But if ye will not hear it, my soul shall weep in secret places for your pride; and mine eye shall weep sore, and run down with tears, because the LORD'S flock is carried away captive.

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Again.....

Luk 19:41
And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
Luk 19:42
Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.
Luk 19:43
For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
Luk 19:44
And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

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Absalom is a type of........Satan. The typology is God weeping for His fallen cherub. Yes, that is the intended imagery.
God WEEPS even for the fallen angelic host. That is the true heart of God.

Pity. Mercy. Longsuffering. Eager to forgive. Desiring repentance and reconciliation. No wishing that anyone should perish.

2Sa 18:33
And the king was much moved, and went up to the chamber over the gate, and wept: and as he went, thus he said, O my son Absalom, my son, my son Absalom! would God I had died for thee, O Absalom, my son, my son!

2Pe 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

 

[cv5]

Best get right with God today.

Agree. End-time prophecy is coming on like a freight train. Head on a swivel.

 

[cv5]

Hatred means different things to different people. The word has been weaponised in recent years to silence the criticism of Communists. The so-called Anti-Defamation League has always been crying wolf about hatred of Jews (many of the acts of hatred being committed by Jews themselves), but few know that the ADL was originally created after the lynching of a Jewish pedophile and murderer, after a corrupt governor overturned his rightful death sentence. If hatred means supporting justice for pedophiles and murderers irrespective of religion, call me a hater. But that's not how God sees hatred.

People simply don't like Nazis or homicidal eugenicists (or pedophiles/rapists/murderers, if we're talking the reason for the creation of the ADL). They didn't like it when the Germans did it in World War II, and they don't like the Israelis doing it today. Just because people side with the opposing side to the Nazis doesn't mean these people hate Germans or Israelis.

The Israeli government has committed sadistic and evil war crimes. The German Nazis had some good policies also, but as with the current regime in Israel, the evil far, far outweighed the good.

I hope the Nazis and war criminals in Israel get the same justice as the Nazis in Germany did circa 1945.

Jesus God loves His brethren the Jews. Weeps for them. Cares for them. Always has, always will.

We should do the same. And we should pray for them, like we do for the rest of the souls in the world.

However we do NOT have to agree with their sins and misdeeds. Those are for the Judge of All to deal with.

 

[HeIsHere]

How about answering my question. Why was God so specific about the land that he promised to Abe?

Well so it is not fulfilled, where is the prophet?

Your problem precedes mine because you insist the land promise is unfulfilled and 1948 was the beginning of the fulfillment, so again where is the leader appointed by God, it should be in the Book of Revelation right?