The GAP Theory

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tedincarolina

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Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?

Tell Me, if you have understanding.

Who fixed its measurements? Surely you know!

Or who stretched a measuring line across it?

On what were its foundations set,

or who laid its cornerstone,

while the morning stars sang together

and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

God speaking to Job testifies to us that the morning stars (angels as we know them) rejoiced as God laid the foundations of the earth. This entire realm in which we live; that is, from the furthest reaches of our universe to the smallest microscopic atomic make up of everything that exists in this physical realm which God created as a place for man to live, was seen by the angels as God worked to build it all for us. As I understand the Scriptures, the angelic realm, which resides in the heavenly realm, existed before God said, "Let there be light!" The angelic realm was not created at the same time as our physical realm in which man lives.
 
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tedincarolina said:
Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?

Tell Me, if you have understanding.

Who fixed its measurements? Surely you know!

Or who stretched a measuring line across it?

On what were its foundations set,

or who laid its cornerstone,

while the morning stars sang together

and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

God speaking to Job testifies to us that the morning stars (angels as we know them) rejoiced as God laid the foundations of the earth. This entire realm in which we live; that is, from the furthest reaches of our universe to the smallest microscopic atomic make up of everything that exists in this physical realm which God created as a place for man to live, was seen by the angels as God worked to build it all for us. As I understand the Scriptures, the angelic realm, which resides in the heavenly realm, existed before God said, "Let there be light!" The angelic realm was not created at the same time as our physical realm in which man lives.
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Thanks, I already surmised that you had the angels created before the creation account in Genesis or maybe day 1, I was more asking and am curious at what point do you have them singing about our physical creation?

Just for your interest I see the spiritual creation as a mirror of our physical creation with the heavens and the earth being created concurrently, I know some see angels as being created on day 5 or day 2 or day 3 or whatever personally I think day 4 but I'm definitely not dogmatic about it, it's just to me that when God created the stars in the heavens to be lights on day 4, seems possible to me to have created the angels then.

Also the 7 judgments of Revelation seem to mirror our 6 days of creation, you know how 1/3 of the earth will be destroyed. 1/3 of the waters will turn to blood, 1/3 of the light of the sun, moon and stars will disappear, 1/3 of the angels for some reason are left out of the descriptions in the judgment but they are active in judgment here, 1/3 of mankind will be killed. But it would take too long for me to extrapolate this, just that I think angels were part of our creation.

Lucifer in Ezekiel was perfect in all his ways on the day he was created, seems to point to being created on one of the of the days of creation.

Anyway I've probably stated this before but while I agree with you job 38, that the morning stars sang together, are indeed the angels. Lucifer meaning morning star or day star, the sons of God also shout for Joy which I believe is those who have been made sons in Christ.

So we sing together with the morning stars, although I don't think Lucifer is any longer called Lucifer but Satan, and the fallen angels are now demons.

When reading Job 38 this may sound strange but I think the cornerstone that is laid is Jesus Christ at the cross, and the foundation of our creation is set upon our Lord Jesus Christ.

I see our creation period lasting 7 thousand years and we are at about the 6000yr mark, just the 1000yr kingdom to go, then a new heavens and earth where we will dwell for ever. If one reads the the Job 38 verses from the viewpoint of seeing back from our eternal home it will make perfect sense, that this entire creation was where the foundations are set for us in our new permanent creation, where we the sons of God and the morning stars will together sing for Joy.

So to me the angels sing at the end of day 7

Just to compare our differences and for me to understand your position, I am curious when do you have the angels singing, on what day or after what event of creation?
 
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tedincarolina

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Clayman said:
Thanks, I already surmised that you had the angels created before the creation account in Genesis or maybe day 1, I was more asking and am curious at what point do you have them singing about our physical creation?
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tedincarolina said:
Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?

Tell Me, if you have understanding.

Who fixed its measurements? Surely you know!

Or who stretched a measuring line across it?

On what were its foundations set,

or who laid its cornerstone,

while the morning stars sang together

and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
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