Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

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Cameron143

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Even if by some miracle Trump manages to stay out of prison, avoid getting assassinated and beats the cheat, we all know that if Trump is elected President, the left will cause more civil unrest. Sadly, I believe that major civil unrest is inevitable at this point. The left will not stop until they destroy America!
At some point people are going to have to step up and take their cities back or lose them. Either they can vote the insanity away or armor up.
 

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I think his comments were demeaning to the black population since the immigrants (both legal and illegal) are doing work which others do not want to do, the minimum wage work
That is only partly true. I have personally known 3 young men that WANTED to work in road construction, and in housing construction. They could not be hired.... why? Because they did not speak Spanish. That was a requirement.
So, I'm certain that many Hispanics are doing jobs that are "less desireable" to some people, but they are certainly not only doing jobs that "others don't want to do"...
 

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Yes @JayBird the Venezuelan gangs are the real deal.....

“ICE confirms to
@FoxNews
that all four of the known & suspected Tren de Aragua gang members arrested by police in Aurora, CO in connection to a shooting/attempted murder in July are Venezuelan illegal aliens who were caught & released at the TX border by the Biden admin.” RELEASED BY KAMALA INTO AMERICA.

Stephen Miller on X: "“ICE confirms to @FoxNews that all four of the known & suspected Tren de Aragua gang members arrested by police in Aurora, CO in connection to a shooting/attempted murder in July are Venezuelan illegal aliens who were caught & released at the TX border by the Biden admin.”" / X
Whenever conservatives discuss problems with gangs and criminals in general in America as a result from the ILLEGAL immigration invasion of America this is the typical resonse below from liberals.

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ThereRoseaLamb

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Yeah, that's who I respect as a leader. One who can't seem to talk about others without making up silly first grade derogatory names for them. Sleepy Joe. Comrade Kamala. Tampon Tim. That's who I want with running the nation. Someone who has no normal, civil respect for anyone.


Not!

Even though she hasn't a sweet clue what she is doing? Even though what she's promised to do will send the country into a tail spin? Even though she has no policy of her own and has copied Trump, the guy you hate so much?! Trump knows how to brand his opposer, it's a strategy. Like Harris' strategy is to lie about who she was these past three yrs.
 

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That is only partly true. I have personally known 3 young men that WANTED to work in road construction, and in housing construction. They could not be hired.... why? Because they did not speak Spanish. That was a requirement.
So, I'm certain that many Hispanics are doing jobs that are "less desireable" to some people, but they are certainly not only doing jobs that "others don't want to do"...
Yup....
Foreign-born workers: +635K in August
Native-born workers: -1.325 MILLION in August

Yes, 1.3 million NATIVE-BORN Americans lost a job in August

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ThereRoseaLamb

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First, Refugee claimants are legally here. Secondly, Trump axed the Republican drafted border bill which Harris has said she will sign into law (to help his campaign eg Trump not America first)..
Biden/Harris had the power to stop this invasion all along, and did zip about it. Now that they see the country is upset about it it's "Election time is coming, look busy!" Then they will take credit for it when they sat back and let it happen for four yrs.


And as for your fake news
You better check your new sources again.

But on January 6th there were thugs and they were armed, and they were Americans and a convicted felon called Donald J lTrump encouraged them...told them he would be "with them" then like a coward hid in front of the TV at the White House..
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This never happened. And why haven't we seen the full footage of what happened? Nothing any more severe than happen during the summer of love and Kammy got them bailed out of jail.
 

cv5

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Even if by some miracle Trump manages to stay out of prison, avoid getting assassinated and beats the cheat, we all know that if Trump is elected President, the left will cause more civil unrest. Sadly, I believe that major civil unrest is inevitable at this point. The left will not stop until they destroy America!
The trend is your friend. Looks like bringing in RFK and Elon is paying dividends.
And luckily, we are not getting hoaxed by COVID election fraud this go-around. Every little bit helps.

Benny Johnson on X: "🚨NEW: Democrat-voting pollster Nate Silver releases new Presidential prediction model showing commanding Trump lead: ELECTORAL COLLEGE ODDS: 🟥Trump: 60.1% (+20.4) 🟦Harris: 39.7% https://t.co/md7Co7lkGQ" / X
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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That is only partly true. I have personally known 3 young men that WANTED to work in road construction, and in housing construction. They could not be hired.... why? Because they did not speak Spanish. That was a requirement.
So, I'm certain that many Hispanics are doing jobs that are "less desireable" to some people, but they are certainly not only doing jobs that "others don't want to do"...
I had my floors replaced in my home. Took up all the carpet and put in new flooring. I was just getting ready to leave when my doorbell rang. It was the workers from Lowes, some issue with the flooring. As I tried to speak to them, neither spoke English. All he could do was point at his phone and say " talk to my boss". The entire job, no one spoke English but one man. My father worked with a guy who had his own business in flooring. He was white and American born and made a good living at it.
 

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Biden/Harris had the power to stop this invasion all along, and did zip about it. Now that they see the country is upset about it it's "Election time is coming, look busy!" Then they will take credit for it when they sat back and let it happen for four yrs.




You better check your new sources again.



This never happened. And why haven't we seen the full footage of what happened? Nothing any more severe than happen during the summer of love and Kammy got them bailed out of jail.
The Left wing brand of Antifa BLM "we are trained Marxists" intimidation, destruction. looting, city burning and violence always gets a pass from the present regime.

Right wingers and conservatives show up at a school board meeting and the Feds come knocking on the door with a warrant.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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More MAGA lies. No recorded cases of abortions



Here are the FACTS !!!


Fact 4: As a U.S. senator, Kamala Harris has voted twice against both the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, which would ban late-term abortions after five months of pregnancy, and the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would protect babies who survive failed abortions.


  • Harris voted against Pain-Capable in 2018 and 2020
  • Harris voted against Born-Alive in 2019 and 2020

To date, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have refused to identify a single restriction on abortion that they would support.

  • In February 2019, The Daily Caller asked Senator Harris if there was a point at which abortion would be considered immoral. She replied: “I think it’s up to a woman to make that decision, and I will always stand by that. I think she needs to make that decision with her doctor, with her priest, with her spouse. I would leave that decision up to them.”
“I am being precise. We need to put into law the protections of Roe v. Wade,” said Harris. “And that is about going back to where we were before the Dobbs decision.”
The only policy Harris is willing to go BACK to, good ol' abortion. And she has the nerve to call Biden racist. smh


As a senator, Harris voted against a proposed 20-week abortion ban, calling it “another example of politicians playing politics with health care.”


When Harris was a California senator, she voted against proceeding on a 2019 bill that would have ensured no federal funds go toward abortions. The bill carved out an exception for rape, incest or where an illness or injury threatens the life of the mother.

That same year, Harris also voted against proceeding on the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act. In cases where a child survived an attempted abortion, the bill would have required health care providers to preserve the life and health of the child as they would for any other child born alive at the same gestational age.

The bill required health care practitioners to ensure children born alive would be immediately transported and admitted to a hospital.
Again, Harris voted AGAINST this bill!!


As a senator, Harris also voted against denying funding to Planned Parenthood as well as suspending funding to Planned Parenthood for a year.
Why would she? Get rid of those minority babies as fast as you can!


After the Department of Health and Human Services implemented a rule during the Trump administration to protect conscience rights of individuals as well as insurers, health care providers and employers, Harris co-sponsored legislation to prohibit this rule’s application. The rule was aimed at protecting the rights of health care providers who refuse to participate in abortions.

Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America graded Harris an F for her record as a senator from 2017 to 2021. The organization graded her based on the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act, the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act as well as judicial confirmations and other bills.

In 2019, Harris received a 100% on her scorecard from the self-described pro-choice organization National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws (now known as Reproductive Freedom for All).




Tim Walz-
As governor of Minnesota, Walz signed the Protect Reproductive Options Act into law. It enshrined “a fundamental right to continue the pregnancy and give birth, or obtain an abortion, and to make autonomous decisions about how to exercise this fundamental right” into law.

At the time of its passing, state Senate Minority Leader Mark Johnson and House Minority Leader Lisa Demuth wrote a letter to Walz urging him to veto it. The two Republican leaders said they offered amendments to it.

“These amendments included prohibiting third trimester abortions, and a requirement that all abortions facilities be licensed to ensure women are provided the safest environment possible,” said Johnson and Demuth. “Sadly, each of these amendments were struck down by a Democrat majority.”


Walz and the Minnesota Legislature also repealed a state law that required women seeking abortions to wait 24 hours after receiving informed-consent. And he also reduced how much data needs to be collected — now health care providers will need to record how the abortion occurred, the age of the woman and the gestational age.

Under Walz, funding for pregnancy resource centers under the Positive Alternatives program was eliminated. These centers provide women with resources to carry their unborn child to term. Often these resources include counseling and financial support.

Walz also signed into a law amendments to the Born Alive Act, including a repeal of the language requiring doctors to “preserve the life” of babies born alive. Instead, the law now says health care practitioners need to “care” for babies consistent with good medical practice.

Which means allow them to die. In case people are not aware, there are people alive today that have survived abortions.


The thing about abortion is this.....whether you are pro life or pro choice, there has NEVER been a single law in USA or Canada requiring anyone to have an abortion. Both countries have facilities where babies can be surrendered for adoption or fostering. So both sides can live their lives the way they choose.
Except for the baby...



But extremist evangelicos (who are a small percentage of people of faith) dont like that. They want everyone else to have to live their lives a certain way and not have freedom of intellectuality and choice.
Live their lives a certain way? You mean allowing a baby to live?? Not murdering a baby in the womb? You just pointed out other choices. Over 60 million babies have been murdered since Row, that's more than the population of Canada!! The baby doesn't get a choice, how about them getting a choice? They didn't ask to be born! We say that 6 million Jews were killed in Germany, we called that a Holocaust, what of 60 million?? There are other choices than killing the unborn.I wouldn't say ripping a baby apart in the womb is "intellect" and BTW, evangelicals are a huge voting block!! smh And don't ever dare call Trump or his supporters racist again if you are willing to vote for Harris!!

Now Ted and Jay and Miss Truth, the facts are right here to read. Now it's out there. Here is where they stand on abortion. If you vote for Harris, or sit out and refuse to vote THIS is what you are voting for!! I say again, you can't be a Christian and vote Dem, just based on these facts alone. Period, end of story.
 

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At some point people are going to have to step up and take their cities back or lose them. Either they can vote the insanity away or armor up.
What are you talking about? Take back their cities from who?
 

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Whenever conservatives discuss problems with gangs and criminals in general in America as a result from the ILLEGAL immigration invasion of America this is the typical resonse below from liberals.

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No, actually people who live in reality point to the data that shows immigrants (including illegal immigrants) commit crimes at far lower rates than American citizens.

https://news.northwestern.edu/stori...ess-likely-to-commit-crimes-than-the-us-born/
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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While I am personally against abortion, I do know that I live in a lost and dying world and that there is a great swell of people who want to make it legal. I have no problem with the practice being legal or not. But my feelings against it are based on my knowledge of God and His word to me. The lost don't follow or understand the knowledge of God and His word to us. So, I don't expect them to be for it and I don't expect those who are truly born again, to ever be a majority of any group, except within a body of believers.

It's a choice made by faith. But the majority of the world doesn't have such faith. I'm ok that it can be legal. The crime against God doesn't come until someone has one.
The crime against God doesn't come until someone has one. And Jesus died for that, too. I think that this evangelical movement to make just this one part of God's will for us to be so diligently fought, while allowing and even practicing it and the many other sins of the world.
There was a time in this country that blacks were not considered people, they were property, no different from cattle. They had no rights. There was a time where Jews were not considered people, they were called rats. There was a time when children were forced to work day and night in dangerous conditions. There was a time women were considered property and you could beat your wife. But we have laws now in place against this. People don't have to be "born again" to understand right from wrong and exact laws to protect people, their freedoms and their lives. ) Over 60 million abortions since Row!! A silent Holocaust.

Nobody, even within the church seems to be particularly concerned that adultery and fornication should be illegal, also. Games of chance are rampant.
There was a time when it was. "Progressive Christians" so called have always been a downfall to the church and Christian testimony. Some great man once said something along the lines of the lower the church goes, the lower the world falls.



So for me, if you want to make such laws to rule the nation, then you need to be following them yourselves. And I know a lot of christians who have had abortions at some point in their life. Even among christians there's a lot of support for abortion
So because someone calls themselves Christian and agrees with abortion it's ok. Because a "Christian" has an abortion, it's ok? You sure can't justify that with the Bible.


Why in the world are we trying to make the world hate us over this issue of abortion when they know that we can't even settle it among ourselves?
Murder is wrong, that was settled in the OT, number 7 on the list, just in case they didn't already know. Thou shalt not commit murder. What's left to settle?! And why would we care what the world thinks?!

Matt. 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake


They don't understand that, "Well, the Baptists are strict about it and they're more like God." Or the Catholics are more against it. There are hundreds of churches and church goers out there that we don't need to be fighting this fight with the world over abortion, .
That is a stunning statement! 2,800 babies on average murdered every day. If 2,800 children were being killed in school shootings every day, I'm pretty da%n sure you and every person in this country would want something done about it! And you'd vote accordingly!!
 

Cameron143

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What are you talking about? Take back their cities from who?
Sorry. Still not on troll duty. I could come up with some cool nicknames for you though. Would you care to hear what I've been spitballing?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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What are you talking about? Take back their cities from who?


You can try and sing people to sleep all you want. People know the truth, no matter how hard the left tries to obscure it. People either feel safe to walk the streets or they don't. People either believe they can go and buy groceries that they need, or they don't. They believe they can afford gas, or they don't. People are either better off now than they were four years ago, or they aren't. Time will tell whether believe their lyin' eyes, or they'll be sung back to sleep. Let's wait and see.
 

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Sorry. Still not on troll duty. I could come up with some cool nicknames for you though. Would you care to hear what I've been spitballing?
Sigh

So angry, so sad. I pray the Lord help you overcome whatever drives you to behave like this.
 

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Biden/Harris had the power to stop this invasion all along, and did zip about it. Now that they see the country is upset about it it's "Election time is coming, look busy!" Then they will take credit for it when they sat back and let it happen for four yrs.




You better check your new sources again.



This never happened. And why haven't we seen the full footage of what happened? Nothing any more severe than happen during the summer of love and Kammy got them bailed out of jail.
Republicans wrote a border bill which democrats supported. More money, more border guards, can close the border (Biden said he would) but your god DJT phoned Johnson and told him not to support it beccause it would be "a win for Biden". So justify that.
 

Cameron143

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Sigh

So angry, so sad. I pray the Lord help you overcome whatever drives you to behave like this.
I'm not angry. I may be the most laid back person on this site for except maybe @Eli1. I just recognized early on that you are a troll.
So....some I'm working on:
@mockingjay
@ t- roll...because that's how you roll
Catchy no?