Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

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HeIsHere

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Ill prepared. Stupid really. Who is the campaign manager?
Why they went with ABC is beyond me.

So obviously biased, I hope people can see it but I think the populace has been so dumbed down they have no clue.
 

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Why they went with ABC is beyond me.

So obviously biased, I hope people can see it but I think the populace has been so dumbed down they have no clue.
America is on the brink of its final swoon. This election must not open the gate to a bunch of ideological Marxists.
 

HeIsHere

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MAZE on X: "MUST WATCH: The last time Kamala ran for President, she told David Muir that she would use executive orders for gun control. Even Biden was telling her that it wasn't constitutional. She just laughed at him. https://t.co/k2whLMYHzq" / X

MUST WATCH: The last time Kamala ran for President, she told David Muir that she would use executive orders for gun control. Even Biden was telling her that it wasn't constitutional. She just laughed at him.

Very interesting clip.

It is all easy to understand, they always announce their plans one way or another before the powers that be enact them, that is the only place they act on principle, revealing their evil plans in advance.
 

HeIsHere

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America is on the brink of its final swoon. This election must not open the gate to a bunch of ideological Marxists.
I think that there is a chance to buy time, but can America recover from all the damage of the past 60 years, doubtful.

Can he really dislodge the military industrial complex and the technocrats .. again doubtful.. his own VP pick is in league/funded by one of those surveillance technocrats.
 

ZNP

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Yes that is true.
Many things he stated were true, she lied continually!!
One thing she has said that is true is that her values have not changed. Not her policies, her values. She will say anything that will get her elected.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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how in the world could he ever stand toe to toe with world leaders?
Did it four years, can do again. He looked tired because his a$$ is out there answering questions, doing interviews, rallies and talking to anyone who will listen. Unless princess Kammy who has the media do all the work for her.
 

NightTwister

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Did it four years, can do again. He looked tired because his a$$ is out there answering questions, doing interviews, rallies and talking to anyone who will listen. Unless princess Kammy who has the media do all the work for her.
If the election were really based on experience and past success, Trump would win in a landslide. Unfortunately the media has turned it into "feelings of joy."
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You are exaggerating here. There was no shouting and yes he was frustrated.

And he should have been clearer because babies who are born alive in a botched abortions have been given post postpartum death care if that is the mother's choice in some states.

Yes that is true.
Many things he stated were true, she lied continually!!
No one answered my post on these facts. Here we go again. And I'm still waiting for a Christian to justify voting for the following.

As a U.S. senator, Kamala Harris has voted twice against both the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, which would ban late-term abortions after five months of pregnancy, and the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would protect babies who survive failed abortions.

  • Harris voted against Pain-Capable in 2018 and 2020
  • Harris voted against Born-Alive in 2019 and 2020

To date, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have refused to identify a single restriction on abortion that they would support.

  • In February 2019, The Daily Caller asked Senator Harris if there was a point at which abortion would be considered immoral. She replied: “I think it’s up to a woman to make that decision, and I will always stand by that. I think she needs to make that decision with her doctor, with her priest, with her spouse. I would leave that decision up to them.”
“I am being precise. We need to put into law the protections of Roe v. Wade,” said Harris. “And that is about going back to where we were before the Dobbs decision.”
The only policy Harris is willing to go BACK to, good ol' abortion. And she has the nerve to call Biden racist. smh

As a senator, Harris voted against a proposed 20-week abortion ban, calling it “another example of politicians playing politics with health care.”


When Harris was a California senator, she voted against proceeding on a 2019 bill that would have ensured no federal funds go toward abortions. The bill carved out an exception for rape, incest or where an illness or injury threatens the life of the mother.

That same year, Harris also voted against proceeding on the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act. In cases where a child survived an attempted abortion, the bill would have required health care providers to preserve the life and health of the child as they would for any other child born alive at the same gestational age.

The bill required health care practitioners to ensure children born alive would be immediately transported and admitted to a hospital.
Again, Harris voted AGAINST this bill!!


As a senator, Harris also voted against denying funding to Planned Parenthood as well as suspending funding to Planned Parenthood for a year.
Why would she? Get rid of those minority babies as fast as you can!

After the Department of Health and Human Services implemented a rule during the Trump administration to protect conscience rights of individuals as well as insurers, health care providers and employers, Harris co-sponsored legislation to prohibit this rule’s application. The rule was aimed at protecting the rights of health care providers who refuse to participate in abortions.

Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America graded Harris an F for her record as a senator from 2017 to 2021. The organization graded her based on the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act, the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act as well as judicial confirmations and other bills.

In 2019, Harris received a 100% on her scorecard from the self-described pro-choice organization National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws (now known as Reproductive Freedom for All).



Tim Walz-
As governor of Minnesota, Walz signed the Protect Reproductive Options Act into law. It enshrined “a fundamental right to continue the pregnancy and give birth, or obtain an abortion, and to make autonomous decisions about how to exercise this fundamental right” into law.

At the time of its passing, state Senate Minority Leader Mark Johnson and House Minority Leader Lisa Demuth wrote a letter to Walz urging him to veto it. The two Republican leaders said they offered amendments to it.

“These amendments included prohibiting third trimester abortions, and a requirement that all abortions facilities be licensed to ensure women are provided the safest environment possible,” said Johnson and Demuth.
“Sadly, each of these amendments were struck down by a Democrat majority.”


Walz and the Minnesota Legislature also repealed a state law that required women seeking abortions to wait 24 hours after receiving informed-consent. And he also reduced how much data needs to be collected — now health care providers will need to record how the abortion occurred, the age of the woman and the gestational age.

Under Walz, funding for pregnancy resource centers under the Positive Alternatives program was eliminated. These centers provide women with resources to carry their unborn child to term. Often these resources include counseling and financial support.

Walz also signed into a law amendments to the Born Alive Act, including a repeal of the language requiring doctors to “preserve the life” of babies born alive. Instead, the law now says health care practitioners need to “care” for babies consistent with good medical practice.

Which means allow them to die. In case people are not aware, there are people alive today that have survived abortions.



I will add to this, if you call or consider yourself a Christian and you can vote for this, you need to seriously reconsider your walk with the Lord. The Bible says God hates the shedding of innocent blood, there is no way to justify this. 60 million babies, more than the population of Canada. No true Christian could vote with these evil, lying people.
 

NightTwister

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No one answered my post on these facts. Here we go again. And I'm still waiting for a Christian to justify voting for the following.

As a U.S. senator, Kamala Harris has voted twice against both the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, which would ban late-term abortions after five months of pregnancy, and the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would protect babies who survive failed abortions.

  • Harris voted against Pain-Capable in 2018 and 2020
  • Harris voted against Born-Alive in 2019 and 2020

To date, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have refused to identify a single restriction on abortion that they would support.

  • In February 2019, The Daily Caller asked Senator Harris if there was a point at which abortion would be considered immoral. She replied: “I think it’s up to a woman to make that decision, and I will always stand by that. I think she needs to make that decision with her doctor, with her priest, with her spouse. I would leave that decision up to them.”
“I am being precise. We need to put into law the protections of Roe v. Wade,” said Harris. “And that is about going back to where we were before the Dobbs decision.”
The only policy Harris is willing to go BACK to, good ol' abortion. And she has the nerve to call Biden racist. smh


As a senator, Harris voted against a proposed 20-week abortion ban, calling it “another example of politicians playing politics with health care.”


When Harris was a California senator, she voted against proceeding on a 2019 bill that would have ensured no federal funds go toward abortions. The bill carved out an exception for rape, incest or where an illness or injury threatens the life of the mother.

That same year, Harris also voted against proceeding on the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act. In cases where a child survived an attempted abortion, the bill would have required health care providers to preserve the life and health of the child as they would for any other child born alive at the same gestational age.

The bill required health care practitioners to ensure children born alive would be immediately transported and admitted to a hospital.
Again, Harris voted AGAINST this bill!!


As a senator, Harris also voted against denying funding to Planned Parenthood as well as suspending funding to Planned Parenthood for a year.
Why would she? Get rid of those minority babies as fast as you can!


After the Department of Health and Human Services implemented a rule during the Trump administration to protect conscience rights of individuals as well as insurers, health care providers and employers, Harris co-sponsored legislation to prohibit this rule’s application. The rule was aimed at protecting the rights of health care providers who refuse to participate in abortions.

Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America graded Harris an F for her record as a senator from 2017 to 2021. The organization graded her based on the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act, the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act as well as judicial confirmations and other bills.

In 2019, Harris received a 100% on her scorecard from the self-described pro-choice organization National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws (now known as Reproductive Freedom for All).



Tim Walz-
As governor of Minnesota, Walz signed the Protect Reproductive Options Act into law. It enshrined “a fundamental right to continue the pregnancy and give birth, or obtain an abortion, and to make autonomous decisions about how to exercise this fundamental right” into law.


At the time of its passing, state Senate Minority Leader Mark Johnson and House Minority Leader Lisa Demuth wrote a letter to Walz urging him to veto it. The two Republican leaders said they offered amendments to it.

“These amendments included prohibiting third trimester abortions, and a requirement that all abortions facilities be licensed to ensure women are provided the safest environment possible,” said Johnson and Demuth. “Sadly, each of these amendments were struck down by a Democrat majority.”

Walz and the Minnesota Legislature also repealed a state law that required women seeking abortions to wait 24 hours after receiving informed-consent. And he also reduced how much data needs to be collected — now health care providers will need to record how the abortion occurred, the age of the woman and the gestational age.

Under Walz, funding for pregnancy resource centers under the Positive Alternatives program was eliminated. These centers provide women with resources to carry their unborn child to term. Often these resources include counseling and financial support.

Walz also signed into a law amendments to the Born Alive Act, including a repeal of the language requiring doctors to “preserve the life” of babies born alive. Instead, the law now says health care practitioners need to “care” for babies consistent with good medical practice.

Which means allow them to die. In case people are not aware, there are people alive today that have survived abortions.


I will add to this, if you call or consider yourself a Christian and you can vote for this, you need to seriously reconsider your walk with the Lord. The Bible says God hates the shedding of innocent blood, there is no way to justify this. 60 million babies, more than the population of Canada. No true Christian could vote with these evil, lying people.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/08...o-die-then-he-removed-reporting-requirements/
 

Mem

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60 pages and the OP question is finally answered, "Yes, you hate America so much you're willing to let Biden/Harris neuter it.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Ill prepared. Stupid really. Who is the campaign manager?
Sorry, I disagree a bit here. The two asking the questions were awful. Trump has to do their job and his job. She's a pawn, a DEI hire and hasn't a brain in that empty head. I know if I had been against her and she said "I'm speaking", my answer would be " Yes, woman you never shut up, the problem is you're saying nothing!" And it was the same last night. She never shut up and what did you learn about her? Nothing. Full of hot air and heifer dust.
 

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60 pages and the OP question is finally answered, "Yes, you hate America so much you're willing to let Biden/Harris neuter it.
That was obvious before the question was asked. The interesting thing is that's pretty much their only future vision. This is again their weakness and corruption showing itself. Let's just indulge the hypothetical for a moment and say Kamala does win. What then? The left only support her because they hate Trump and want to beat Trump, they don't have a plan for after that. They don't acknowledge the problems they caused and the dangerous position it has put us all in, so besides just being a big shame on their ego, put that aside a minute and consider practicality, that means they'll never fix it, they won't even try. That's why in 4 years they didn't do anything except persecute Trump and anyone that actually believes in Christianity.
 

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60 pages and the OP question is finally answered, "Yes, you hate America so much you're willing to let Biden/Harris neuter it.
You aren't giving enough credit to Obama, or Bush, or Cheney, or Clinton.
 

Mem

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You aren't giving enough credit to Obama, or Bush, or Cheney, or Clinton.
Credit extends all the way back 60 years to the last illegitimately obtained presidential succession. There is a rabbi that has made an interesting correlation with a discarding of the traditional male practice of wearing hats.

There have been 10 commanders in chief since, which causes me to wonder if any of the heads has three horns... :unsure:
 

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Ill prepared. Stupid really. Who is the campaign manager?
Yes he was. The post-debate polling is as bad for Trump as it was for Biden back in June.

Hopefully we just saw the end of MAGA and Trumpism.
 

JayBird

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You are exaggerating here. There was no shouting and yes he was frustrated.
He was angry, dark, and loud. He came across like the crazy uncle at Thanksgiving.

And he should have been clearer because babies who are born alive in a botched abortions have been given post postpartum death care if that is the mother's choice in some states.

Yes that is true.
Many things he stated were true, she lied continually!!
Trump lied so much in that debate, the fact-checkers couldn't get to them all and just hit the highlights. You wanna walk through some of them?