Tonight's Presidential Debate

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Cameron143

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I just showed you that it is. If all you have is basically "Nuh uh" there's nothing else to say.


Yep, he sure could have.

Are you going to start showing where the immigration reform bill says what you claimed?
Again, what's the point in sharing truth with you...you will not receive it. The source you gave about the border being closed is also lying. No one believes the border is closed.
 

JayBird

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They won't be at my house. I'm not an illegal, nor do I break the law. And local police wouldn't need help with me. Again, he wasn't talking about citizens, but gangs.
Again, you haven't been paying attention. His mass deportation plan is to round up, put into camps, and then deport all illegal immigrants (not just gangs).

He was specifically asked if this would be door to door and if the national guard would be involved, and he said "yeah" and added in that local police would be involved as well. I quoted from the debate directly. No sense in denying it.

I mean, how else do you think that would work? When they show up at people's houses, do you think they're just going to take everyone's word for it when they say "Nope, no illegal immigrants here"? Is that how you really think law enforcement works?

Police knock on door

Homeowner answers, "Yes? Can I help you?"

Police, "Do you have any illegal drugs in the house?"

Homeowner, "Nope".

Police, "Okay, that's good enough for us. Have a nice day!" :ROFL:
 

JayBird

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Again, what's the point in sharing truth with you...you will not receive it.
So yet another excuse for not showing where the bill says any of the things you claimed. If you can't back up your claims, and even go to extreme lengths to avoid doing so, those claims are basis and can be discarded.

The source you gave about the border being closed is also lying. No one believes the border is closed.
Again, this is just weird. Are you a real person?

The Christian Science Monitor is lying? You really do seem to be in the Trump cult that just says "everyone else is a liar except Trump". Christians aren't supposed to idolize anyone like that, let alone an unrepentant sinner like Trump.

But I'm starting to wonder if you're even real.
 

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Thank you. But seriously. I’m not interested in being correct.

I purely want those on the fence, especially Christians, to see how horrible it would be if this woman was ever President.

Look at how Jaybird is panicking because he’s realizing that he can’t twist her awful transgender position.
Yup. The time for nuance, nit-picking and parsing picadilloes is over.

There is no alternative to a full Trump ticket. Full throttle pedal to the metal, no joke, no hesitating. Full speed ahead captain.

And no @JayBird Kamalatov the commie is NEVER an option. In fact, she should be swiftly and resoundingly excommunicated for ongoing and willful anti-American activities.
 

Cameron143

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Again, you haven't been paying attention. His mass deportation plan is to round up, put into camps, and then deport all illegal immigrants (not just gangs).

He was specifically asked if this would be door to door and if the national guard would be involved, and he said "yeah" and added in that local police would be involved as well. I quoted from the debate directly. No sense in denying it.

I mean, how else do you think that would work? When they show up at people's houses, do you think they're just going to take everyone's word for it when they say "Nope, no illegal immigrants here"? Is that how you really think law enforcement works?

Police knock on door

Homeowner answers, "Yes? Can I help you?"

Police, "Do you have any illegal drugs in the house?"

Homeowner, "Nope".

Police, "Okay, that's good enough for us. Have a nice day!" :ROFL:
The local police would identify possible illegal immigrants. They would assess the situation, and ask for help if they need it. As I own property, have a long history at my address, and can easily provide proof of citizenship, no one will be entering my domicile.
Do you know anything about law enforcement?
 

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What did Kamala say about the 325,000 missing children?
 

Cameron143

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Who won the Harris-Trump debate: political experts weigh In.
Three liberals or RINOs. Imagine that. They think Harris won.
Libs still don't get it. All those people are libs regardless of what title they wear. And FOX is no longer conservative, except for a few strong voices.
 

cv5

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Who won the Harris-Trump debate: political experts weigh In.
Kid, back in the old Soviet Union, useful idiots would habitually tune into Prava for their daily dose of gaslighting.

Don't be a chump like they were.
 

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The local police would identify possible illegal immigrants.
How?

As I own property, have a long history at my address, and can easily provide proof of citizenship, no one will be entering my domicile.
How do they know you aren't housing any illegal immigrants?

And you really are okay with police and the national guard coming to your home and demanding your papers?

What about people like my mom who's in memory care? Are the troops and police going to question them? Or are you actually thinking they'll set up appointments or something?

"Hey mom, we have to go down to the police station and prove that you're here legally"?

Do you know anything about law enforcement?
Yep. Do you know about the 4th Amendment?
 

Cameron143

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Hey @JayBird
Looks like your chosen candidate who you thought was a swan ended up being a turkey. Or her goose was cooked. Or whatever.

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Oh yeah, the Trump world is relying entirely on internet polls, where anyone can vote as many times as they want. Very scientific. :LOL:

But if the hardcore Trump base wants to believe that he won last night, we'll just throw it on the pile with the rest of the nonsense (such as all Dems wanted Roe overturned, or no one ever shows up at a Harris rally).
 

cv5

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What did Kamala say about the 325,000 missing children?
That they are all in the basements of her progressive left liberal Democrat cartel buddies and supporters?
Because of their......shall we say, insatiable needs?
And this is nothing new. That is what mechanistic reductionist atheist materialist Malthusian eugenicists habitually do.

After all, she is the Chief Architect and enabler of this horrific $$$ human trafficking $$$.....right?
Surely she is minting the Benjamins along with the Big Guy and their crew.
 

cv5

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This can't be right. T-roll already posted polls that prove this poll is a lie.
Not sure. Just got back from all day meetings and extreme traffic punishment.
Have not caught up to the latest.

But it was an amusing story to say the least.

So how about this one...?

 

JayBird

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That they are all in the basements of her progressive left liberal Democrat cartel buddies and supporters?
Because of their......shall we say, insatiable needs?
And this is nothing new. That is what mechanistic reductionist atheist materialist Malthusian eugenicists habitually do.

After all, she is the Chief Architect and enabler of this horrific $$$ human trafficking $$$.....right?
Surely she is minting the Benjamins along with the Big Guy and their crew.
Oh yay, Qanon makes an appearance! :rolleyes:

Trump world is nuts.
 
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Three liberals or RINOs. Imagine that. They think Harris won.
Libs still don't get it. All those people are libs regardless of what title they wear. And FOX is no longer conservative, except for a few strong voices.
Isn't Trump a RINO?
 

Cameron143

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How?


How do they know you aren't housing any illegal immigrants?

And you really are okay with police and the national guard coming to your home and demanding your papers?

What about people like my mom who's in memory care? Are the troops and police going to question them? Or are you actually thinking they'll set up appointments or something?

"Hey mom, we have to go down to the police station and prove that you're here legally"?


Yep. Do you know about the 4th Amendment?
No conservative is OK with any of a lawabiding citizen's rights being withheld from them. That's why conservatives were irate with how J6 defendants were treated by the Biden administration. But you are misrepresenting what Trump would do.

The reason I asked were you familiar with law enforcement is because you don't seem familiar with their procedures. It's called policing. Law enforcement personnel are in the community. They see and hear things and respond accordingly. Where large numbers of people are who do not speak English or are breaking laws, they will know. They can then investigate and see what ought to be done. The majority of this can be done locally without any help, and illegals can be detained and turned over to ICE.

Where local law enforcement finds those who resist, there may be need to bring in larger forces and greater firepower. This is what Trump is referring to.